With Y proliferation and J declining I would be surprise CX would go the J-light road rather than Y-advanced road.

Like you said, the primary things need to be address is the following: reclining and softer/adjustable cushions. The success of Eva Y+ shows that people are willing to pay double Y if they can get a good night sleep on the longhaul.

I'm with you. If I can sleep I'll pay CX a premium to get off the plane in HKG ready for a full day; if not, and with no chance of getting an upgrade to J, then I'm going to explore other options.

Thank you but I'll stick with Cathay/Dragonair and OW. :)

It's just that I typically fly CX longhaul on the night flights between Hongkong and London and vice versa and on those sleeping takes preference over catering etc.

and half the comfort, half the service, and half quality food. Tried that already, so I'll follow Mosburger advice as well, thanks.

Let's hope cx puts something in like air nz

http://www.nzherald.co.nz/travel/new...108938#6815387

I don't get the feeling that CX put the thought, time and effort into innovation as NZ do.

This looks neat! Get a few blankets and pillows and you can create your own little suite:D

how do you know? Do you work in CX Mgmt?:rolleyes:

CX is managed? Who knew?

Jokes aside, I would hardly call sending members a survey about a potential Y+ attached with a picture of a competitor's product as a guide as to any innovative ideas they may have. Says it all really.

Oh, and by the way, lets go back to the 'success' of the various incarnations of CX's J class as examples of their thought and innovation. QED.

I trust that you never really travel in F Class before?:rolleyes:
Also although the NZ couch is nice, I really don't think it is a product many airlines will leap to adapt.

I suspect that survey was more a pricing survey / exercise, and wouldn't put too much emphasis on that being the real product. They were probably saying, all things being equal, would you pay more or less than Qantas for premium economy?

I hope I'm right.

a row of 3 seats probably cheaper than J class. Also looks roomier than CX's herringbone J...

At least they are thinking and innovating. Take a look at the mock-up for their Y+, interesting. As a paying traveller, it's good to see an airline thinking of the customer/comfort/innovation.

Actually I did but I really think as a couple, why would you pay for Y+ when you can get those nice Y Couches for less $$$. It does create situations whereby they are starting to eating into their premium market.

Sure it is innovative, but does it make business sense for other airlines? Different markets/Different demands.

No one is forcing you to take CX if you feel they are not innovative enough for your taste.

I think AZ has done well here and I can't believe the other article a few pages back in this thread that CX would be 2 years away from their Y+ announcement surely there are seat manufacturers with prototypes standing by looking for a home unless CX goes completely custom here. Given the shift in the market I'd bet they will be testing and making another seat config announcement this year.