Air France flight crashed in YYZ
Aug 2, 2005, 4:29 pm
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Originally Posted by Cyrano
Got a small picture for you:
24L should be the main runway right on the bottom, parallel to HW401. The creek is visible, too.
24L should be the main runway right on the bottom, parallel to HW401. The creek is visible, too.
Correction: I had it backward. 24L is correct, the northern runway is 24R, and the northernmost runway (parallel to Derry Rd.) is 23.
Last edited by YYZC2; Aug 2, 2005 at 4:38 pm
Aug 2, 2005, 4:29 pm
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Certainly hope that those reports of a successful evacuation are true.
BTW, here is the Operational Flight Info from Amadeus:
BTW, here is the Operational Flight Info from Amadeus:
Code:
AIR FRANCE - AF 358
Airport Hour FLIGHT INFORMATION
------- ---- ---------------------------------
CDG 13:30 ESTIMATED TIME OF DEPARTURE
CDG 13:32 LEFT THE GATE
CDG 13:53 TOOK OFF
YYZ 16:11 ESTIMATED TIME OF ARRIVAL
YYZ 16:02 AIRCRAFT LANDED
YYZ 16:12 AIRCRAFT EXPECTED AT GATE
Aug 2, 2005, 4:36 pm
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Originally Posted by YYZC2
I don't think you're right. I *think* the runway this aircraft used was 25L, which is south of 24L and is shown partially constructed in the photo you provided.
They landed on 24L which is one of the ones built a few years ago. Winds were about 350@25G35, which I suspect would be close to the maximum Xwind component of the plane. Visibility at the time was 1 1/4 in Heavy thunderstorms.
AC1166 YVR-YYZ was near the BC/AB border and returned to YVR.
Aug 2, 2005, 4:36 pm
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Congrats to the cabin crew for the safe evac.
Who was recently writing in a thread that their job has little do with safety? Couldn't have been me
Who was recently writing in a thread that their job has little do with safety? Couldn't have been me
Aug 2, 2005, 4:37 pm
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Originally Posted by YYZC2
I don't think you're right. I *think* the runway this aircraft used was 25L, which is south of 24L and is shown partially constructed in the photo you provided.
Aug 2, 2005, 4:40 pm
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Such a relief, when I saw the first pics I expected the worst. Great evacuation job by the crew. Evacuating nearly 300 persons with flames all around with no fatalities and a handfull of minor injuries is something truly exeptional!!! ^ ^
Looks they got a massive power failure (unconfirmed of course) also very uncommon for this type of modern airliner.
Looks they got a massive power failure (unconfirmed of course) also very uncommon for this type of modern airliner.
Aug 2, 2005, 4:41 pm
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Originally Posted by Cyrano
I'm not sure about that. On my highlighted runway it says "24R" (why 'R'?). I'm not sure how old this image is.
Aug 2, 2005, 4:47 pm
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Originally Posted by YYZC2
It's 24L (left), the new runway added to the existing 24R. I was confused. The runway in question is the one still under construction on your photo.
Aug 2, 2005, 4:49 pm
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Originally Posted by tracon
YYZ doesn't have a 25L.
They landed on 24L which is one of the ones built a few years ago. Winds were about 350@25G35, which I suspect would be close to the maximum Xwind component of the plane. Visibility at the time was 1 1/4 in Heavy thunderstorms.
AC1166 YVR-YYZ was near the BC/AB border and returned to YVR.
They landed on 24L which is one of the ones built a few years ago. Winds were about 350@25G35, which I suspect would be close to the maximum Xwind component of the plane. Visibility at the time was 1 1/4 in Heavy thunderstorms.
AC1166 YVR-YYZ was near the BC/AB border and returned to YVR.
Aug 2, 2005, 4:49 pm
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I live about 6 miles south of the airport, and I can tell you it was one heck of a storm; we had about an inch of rain in a half hour. Massive lightening.
My 11 year old often listens to Toronto air traffic control, and we noticed right around this time that the broadcasts had gone silent.
GTAA.com shows all flights tonite cancelled or diverted...
My 11 year old often listens to Toronto air traffic control, and we noticed right around this time that the broadcasts had gone silent.
GTAA.com shows all flights tonite cancelled or diverted...
Aug 2, 2005, 4:51 pm
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Safety investigator on his way.
Hi guys. I have had the call and will probably be heading out that way tomorrow. It would be useful if you could dig out the odd fact before I leave.
I have got the picture from a few posts earlier. Thank you.
Can anybody confirm the flight carried straight on after the runway, rather than sliding off the side? It is a completely different type of cause the "Carry on" as opposed to the "Sideslide".
Is that a perimeter track just before the gully with the river in it?
All information appreciated. Does anybody have the length of the tarmac available to them, my books are not at home with me at the moment. I am trying to work out the actual distance of overrun.
Any ideas if it went through the localiser antennae.
Spottie (specialist in airport accident investigation)
I have got the picture from a few posts earlier. Thank you.
Can anybody confirm the flight carried straight on after the runway, rather than sliding off the side? It is a completely different type of cause the "Carry on" as opposed to the "Sideslide".
Is that a perimeter track just before the gully with the river in it?
All information appreciated. Does anybody have the length of the tarmac available to them, my books are not at home with me at the moment. I am trying to work out the actual distance of overrun.
Any ideas if it went through the localiser antennae.
Spottie (specialist in airport accident investigation)
Aug 2, 2005, 4:56 pm
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It would appear the Airbus 340 curved off the runway at the end, rather than crash into the landing lights which were shown totally in place on TV.
Thank God there were no losses on this crash. This is a miracle.
Thank God there were no losses on this crash. This is a miracle.
Aug 2, 2005, 4:57 pm
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Originally Posted by 767300ER
Such a relief, when I saw the first pics I expected the worst. Great evacuation job by the crew. Evacuating nearly 300 persons with flames all around with no fatalities and a handfull of minor injuries is something truly exeptional!!! ^ ^