Canada officials say vaxx req for visitors, random testing to end by 30 Sept.2022
Jun 7, 2021, 5:26 am
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I'm sure hockey players are very responsible and don't have ''visitors'' in their hotel room every night. Makes a lot of sense to exempt them.
Jun 7, 2021, 6:43 am
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common sense
Is this with Biron or something separately with YUL? Can you provide a link?
EDIT: https://www.biron.com/en/laboratory/covid-19/travel/
EDIT: https://www.biron.com/en/laboratory/covid-19/travel/
Jun 7, 2021, 8:07 am
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Its easier to keep the jails around.
If only it was just the players - families and team staff are coming too. And all on the honour system.
Jun 7, 2021, 8:42 am
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Naw, see my reply to testycal above.
Jun 7, 2021, 9:40 am
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Even if rapid PCR testing supply were an issue, those tests could be reserved for travellers with an onward connection. Those whose final destination is the point of entry and vicinity can have the swab at the airport and await their result in the safety of their home quarantine.
Jun 7, 2021, 9:44 am
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Is the above even a consideration? Obviously the quarantine hotels were purely punitive. Anybody who believes otherwise is supremely naive.
Jun 7, 2021, 10:19 am
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I'm with Emailkid here. I don't think flight numbers would have gone up to an unmanageable number, too many other destinations have restrictions, too many Canadians are still irrationally scared of the virus, and the cost of testing alone is often a deterrent.
Even if rapid PCR testing supply were an issue, those tests could be reserved for travellers with an onward connection. Those whose final destination is the point of entry and vicinity can have the swab at the airport and await their result in the safety of their home quarantine.
Even if rapid PCR testing supply were an issue, those tests could be reserved for travellers with an onward connection. Those whose final destination is the point of entry and vicinity can have the swab at the airport and await their result in the safety of their home quarantine.
Jun 7, 2021, 10:55 am
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I'm with Emailkid here. I don't think flight numbers would have gone up to an unmanageable number, too many other destinations have restrictions, too many Canadians are still irrationally scared of the virus, and the cost of testing alone is often a deterrent.
Even if rapid PCR testing supply were an issue, those tests could be reserved for travellers with an onward connection. Those whose final destination is the point of entry and vicinity can have the swab at the airport and await their result in the safety of their home quarantine.
Even if rapid PCR testing supply were an issue, those tests could be reserved for travellers with an onward connection. Those whose final destination is the point of entry and vicinity can have the swab at the airport and await their result in the safety of their home quarantine.
We have 9,2 million rapid tests that have not yet been deployed and are listed as emergency supply.
We have an additional 16 million rapid tests that have been distributed to their final point-of-care setting where they will be administered to patients. (only 4 million have been used so far which is another issue)
Assuming we have ~45000 Canadian air arrivals a day (pre pandemic numbers discounting for ~10,000 foreigners) according to statscan
That means we have the capacity to have enough rapid tests for only 200 days assuming they all get used for air travel - not other uses, and not land borders.
In other words, maybe rapid testing will come to the border since we seem to have millions of unused fast tests? But maybe the supply is just too small to use these for travel, since the numbers above dont even account for land crossings or foreigners coming in.
Jun 7, 2021, 11:13 am
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I got a call yesterday from the assistant to the Liberal MP for my riding where my house is in Greater Vancouver. He said he was checking in with constituents to see how they were doing and if there was anything he wanted me to bring to the MP’s attention. We spoke for about half an hour, mostly about the hotel quarantine issue and from what he said, it seems fairly certain that they do plan to drop the mandatory hotel portion for vaxxed travellers for the next OIC. I hope he is correct.
Jun 7, 2021, 11:49 am
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I just noticed that PHAC has released some useful data as of May 28. The positivity rate for airport-tested arrivals plummeted to 0.4% in May (since the India travel ban). Right in line with my speculative math from a couple of days ago.
One of the justifications for not having the hotel quarantine at the land border was the very low positivity rate there (0.3%). These new numbers could provide a reason for the Feds to start phasing it out and a chance to save face by claiming it's data/science based.
One of the justifications for not having the hotel quarantine at the land border was the very low positivity rate there (0.3%). These new numbers could provide a reason for the Feds to start phasing it out and a chance to save face by claiming it's data/science based.
Jun 7, 2021, 12:23 pm
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I just noticed that PHAC has released some useful data as of May 28. The positivity rate for airport-tested arrivals plummeted to 0.4% in May (since the India travel ban). Right in line with my speculative math from a couple of days ago.
One of the justifications for not having the hotel quarantine at the land border was the very low positivity rate there (0.3%). These new numbers could provide a reason for the Feds to start phasing it out and a chance to save face by claiming it's data/science based.
One of the justifications for not having the hotel quarantine at the land border was the very low positivity rate there (0.3%). These new numbers could provide a reason for the Feds to start phasing it out and a chance to save face by claiming it's data/science based.
Jun 7, 2021, 12:32 pm
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There has to be a reason why PHAC is now publishing the numbers, perhaps to counter any offensive coming from those who will go on an offensive when the jails are dropped.
Jun 7, 2021, 12:41 pm
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No, as mentioned main reason for the drop in the air arrival positive test is the disallowing of flights (and more importantly tests) from country(ies) where a negative test can easily be bought.
There has to be a reason why PHAC is now publishing the numbers, perhaps to counter any offensive coming from those who will go on an offensive when the jails are dropped.
There has to be a reason why PHAC is now publishing the numbers, perhaps to counter any offensive coming from those who will go on an offensive when the jails are dropped.
Jun 7, 2021, 12:54 pm
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Surely, test supplies are not going to be an issue anymore if there is a political will. And as others have pointed out, travellers could be made to pay $200 for it and would still be much better off than with the hotel prisons. So there wouldn't be a financial hit to the Canadian taxpayer either.
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