BALPA may ballot members on industrial action
Jul 27, 2022, 7:17 pm
#16
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I have some sympathy for all these Unionised workers fighting for better remuneration at the expense/inconvenience of the general Public and their Employers.
Could someone direct me to the OAPs Union website, where we (the ones without any leverage) can seek more money by strike action? Or do we just form an orderly queue at the Pension Office, or the Crematorium?
Could someone direct me to the OAPs Union website, where we (the ones without any leverage) can seek more money by strike action? Or do we just form an orderly queue at the Pension Office, or the Crematorium?
Jul 27, 2022, 7:35 pm
#17
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As always, these situations are about leverage. BA/IAG had it with previous industrial disputes, it doesn’t so much now. I wonder what will happen next with cabin crew, always thought that Walsh’s cherished ambition to get rid of the legacy fleets could come back to bite the company, a single crew fleet reduces the opportunity to divide and conquer, especially when there isn’t an oversupply of labour.
Jul 28, 2022, 2:17 am
#18
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Hes a business unit CEO in a matrixed organisation. The likely reality is that he has responsibility for the negotiation, influence but not final decision-making power on the company position, and full responsibility for any blame if it goes wrong. Its an unenviable position to be in, but was the same for his predecessor (and likely Keith Williams before that), so he should have known what he was signing up for.
As always, these situations are about leverage. BA/IAG had it with previous industrial disputes, it doesnt so much now. I wonder what will happen next with cabin crew, always thought that Walshs cherished ambition to get rid of the legacy fleets could come back to bite the company, a single crew fleet reduces the opportunity to divide and conquer, especially when there isnt an oversupply of labour.
As always, these situations are about leverage. BA/IAG had it with previous industrial disputes, it doesnt so much now. I wonder what will happen next with cabin crew, always thought that Walshs cherished ambition to get rid of the legacy fleets could come back to bite the company, a single crew fleet reduces the opportunity to divide and conquer, especially when there isnt an oversupply of labour.
Jul 28, 2022, 2:37 am
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However, my point was really that industrial action by a single fleet would potentially have a more profound impact on operations than action by one of multiple crew fleets.
Jul 28, 2022, 4:20 am
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On the upside, predicting strike dates always used to be a good way of picking up some bonus tier points on fully flexible bookings, as BA used to award them anyway if your flight was cancelled :-)
Jul 29, 2022, 12:19 am
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Dont you need to fly the rebooked flights to claim ORC?
Jul 29, 2022, 2:50 am
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That must be quite some time ago. I dont remember people being awarded TPs on flights which were cancelled and never rebooked in strikes over the last few years (e.g. during the MF strikes).
Definitely not recommended as something to try for that reason if we do have BA strikes this year.
Definitely not recommended as something to try for that reason if we do have BA strikes this year.
Jul 29, 2022, 4:13 am
#25
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IAG Q2 results are out today, they returned to operating profit again in Q2 (period from March-June which included significant disruption) - https://www.iairgroup.com/~/media/Fi...al-results.pdf
They also expect profitability to be significantly higher in both Q3 and Q4 and IAG to make a decent profit for 2022 as a whole. Remind me what the justification for this pay cut is again exactly in BA’s opinion?!
They also expect profitability to be significantly higher in both Q3 and Q4 and IAG to make a decent profit for 2022 as a whole. Remind me what the justification for this pay cut is again exactly in BA’s opinion?!
Jul 29, 2022, 4:23 am
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IAG Q2 results are out today, they returned to operating profit again in Q2 (period from March-June which included significant disruption) - https://www.iairgroup.com/~/media/Fi...al-results.pdf
They also expect profitability to be significantly higher in both Q3 and Q4 and IAG to make a decent profit for 2022 as a whole. Remind me what the justification for this pay cut is again exactly in BAs opinion?!
They also expect profitability to be significantly higher in both Q3 and Q4 and IAG to make a decent profit for 2022 as a whole. Remind me what the justification for this pay cut is again exactly in BAs opinion?!
Staff cost:
-8% for Iberia vs 2019
-25% for BA vs 2019
Passenger revenue:
- 4 %for Iberia vs 2019
-27% for BA vs 2019
Jul 29, 2022, 5:00 am
#27
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But obviously they cannot provide anything better to their employees. Those share buy-backs aren't free!