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Old Sep 2, 2022, 4:56 am
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Originally Posted by mguinness
This thread has been quiet for the past month, does this mean strike action has been averted for now? Were BALPA members even balloted?
BA believe they are right and just in choosing a fiscal measure for punitive action against the pilot body of the workforce for daring to fight for legally binding agreements to be honoured.

BAs head of IR has been unambiguous in his message that BA are right and just to continue the punitive measures, and that they do not need to inform us of how much of a percentage punishment they will administer from month to month until after the payroll run has been completed, we are not deserving enough of the right to know and plan in advance. His message was clear.

They are clearly angered that in order to prevent the potential of an IR ballot prior to the bank holiday they were forced to move an inch and set a percentage for the remainder of the year in order to allow talks to progress.

Talks continue but the intransigence of BA has been made abundantly clear in this weeks comms.
BA have had to remove the ability of pilots to ask the SMT questions on an internal comms medium and have removed all traces of displeasure voiced by the pilot body.

I can see a ballot looming now in the not too distant future.

Whilst no IA ballot has yet been issued, BALPA will want to exhaust every possible opportunity for BA to wake up, they choose instead to continue to pretend we enjoy and agree with this fiscal punishment. Read into that what you will.
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Old Sep 2, 2022, 8:53 am
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Thanks for the update and viewpoint. It seems like IA is only a matter of time.
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Old Oct 17, 2022, 12:09 pm
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A very brief update on this as Im just in the process of swiping in, but the offer has been put to pilots and initial reaction is as expected after I read itthree times. It will almost certainly be rejected and I would predict an IA ballot is now a certainty. The atmosphere here is one of disbelief for those that have read it, asking each other if theyve read it right.
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Old Oct 17, 2022, 2:34 pm
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Can only agree and endorse Sigwxs reading of the offer. Cant imagine why its even being entertained by BALPA as a serious offer, but I guess there are rules that must be followed before a ballot for IA
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Old Oct 17, 2022, 3:26 pm
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Any ballpark timings for how long it takes to ballot for IA?

Is it then 14 days statutory notice? (Assuming a vote for IA)
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Old Oct 17, 2022, 5:02 pm
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Hopefully and ultimately this leads to a fair offer for pilots. Again Id be extremely surprised if actual industrial action did materialise, BA are on a significant back foot PR wise also especially after the summer of chaos (which isnt over by any means, waiting nearly 90 mins for bags to arrive today at LHR!) and I dont think they can afford nor will let a strike go ahead. The hardline taken by Walsh/Cruz in 2020 (and many years prior to that of eroding employee relations/trust) is coming back to bite BA quite badly in the backside. Saved a few pennies back then only now to forcibly have to chalk out more just to save face and prevent further chaos and losses! Just my twopence.
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Old Oct 18, 2022, 3:32 am
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Originally Posted by krispy84
Any ballpark timings for how long it takes to ballot for IA?

Is it then 14 days statutory notice? (Assuming a vote for IA)
It would be a drawn out process. Any IA ballot MUST be by postal vote, this means from issuance until announcement of a result is typically 3 weeks if fast tracked but more realistically a month to allow two full weeks for responses. That comes after the failure to agree process has been exhausted. The 2019 action was announced after all of this plus an injunction by BA which they lost and an appeal on that decision which, again, they lost. IF it got that far they would certainly do the same again, anything to kick the can down the road.
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Old Oct 18, 2022, 3:47 am
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Old Oct 18, 2022, 3:55 am
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Old Oct 18, 2022, 12:45 pm
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It appears that any vote will be on the new contract: https://www.ft.com/content/e7794c64-...2-c4a1a966a3d2
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