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Click here for last year's (2020) thread.
The 2021/22 BA compensation thread: Your guide to Regulation EC261/2004
#706
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Today I received an email informing me of a cancellation for my BA345 NCE-LHR on this coming Tuesday 29th March. It is rather frustrating to lose our morning in Monaco as we have been rebooked on the earlier flight that day BA335 and with Mstr Wilsnunn's bedtime on the line we don't want to take any of the later options still available that day. We will therefore be departing 1hr45 earlier than we were meant to and the cancellation is <7 days in advance so as far as I understand that would be a pretty clear cut £220 each for myself and Mrs Wilsnunn - the usual caveat that I am more than happy to be corrected still stands.
My main question would be what is the policy regarding the 18mo old Mstr Wilsnunn?
My main question would be what is the policy regarding the 18mo old Mstr Wilsnunn?
#707
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#708
Join Date: Apr 2006
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Cancelled flight to JFK next week
Question for the hive - BA have just cancelled my flight to NYC next Wednesday (6 days notice) and put me on a later flight which means I miss my connection to LAX same day. Given it’s less than 7 days notice can I assume I will get EU261 compensation for the cancellation irrespective of any rerouting I may take to arrive earlier or later given the late notice?
#709
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Question for the hive - BA have just cancelled my flight to NYC next Wednesday (6 days notice) and put me on a later flight which means I miss my connection to LAX same day. Given it’s less than 7 days notice can I assume I will get EU261 compensation for the cancellation irrespective of any rerouting I may take to arrive earlier or later given the late notice?
#710
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So it was a through ticket LHR JFK LAX
they cancelled LHR JFK and I have 3 choices I guess
1. refund and walk away
2. go 5 hours later to JFK miss my connection to LAX and therefore have to overnight in JFK and arrive 12hrs later to LAX
3. leave 5 hrs earlier from LHR and arrive into LAX 4 hours earlier
they cancelled LHR JFK and I have 3 choices I guess
1. refund and walk away
2. go 5 hours later to JFK miss my connection to LAX and therefore have to overnight in JFK and arrive 12hrs later to LAX
3. leave 5 hrs earlier from LHR and arrive into LAX 4 hours earlier
#711
Join Date: Jun 2017
Location: Edinburgh, UK
Programs: Hilton Diamond
Posts: 59
We have a slightly weird situation where our original look flight was cancelled for passengers but actually still flew. I included a screenshot of Flightradar showing this and it shows that flight arrived about 1hr early. So in real terms we actually arrived about 3hrs later than we would have had we been on that plane. May not convince them but worth a shot along with challenging the highly convenient point that we supposedly arrived 1min under the 2hr requirement. As CEDR say that consumers cannot provide any further evidence I am hoping the same applies to BA
#712
Join Date: Oct 2016
Posts: 21
Hi All -
BA have finally came back with an update regarding our flight from MLE - LHR - They are saying the following:
I've gone back to them asking if they could confirm that it is their final position and issue me with a deadlock letter so I can take the claim to CEDR. Interestingly they've added some more minutes from their first response. I also advised that their response is not factual and frankly insulting.
I just don't understand why they're dragging their heels so much, it's pretty obvious that the plane doors were not opened at the time they're stating. My Wife has a photo of us still on the plane at 21:18.
When I do the CEDR claim - would the compensation that we're entitled to be the full rate or reduced rate?
Thanks in advanced for any help!
BA have finally came back with an update regarding our flight from MLE - LHR - They are saying the following:
I'm sorry your flight from Male was delayed and we don't underestimate how much this must have disrupted your travel plans. I’ve checked the details of your flight and can confirm your flight, BA0060, at on 20 February was delayed for 146 minutes. I’ve included the details below for your reference.
Flight BA0060 from Male to London Heathrow.
Scheduled departure date and time: 20 February 2022 06:45 GMT
Actual departure date and time: 20 February 2022 08:48 GMT
Scheduled arrival date and time: 20 February 2022 18:10 GMT
Actual arrival date and time: 20 February 2022 20:36 GMT
Total delay: 146 minutes
Since your flight wasn’t delayed in arriving by three hours or more, your claim for compensation under EU Regulation 261/2004 has been refused.
Flight BA0060 from Male to London Heathrow.
Scheduled departure date and time: 20 February 2022 06:45 GMT
Actual departure date and time: 20 February 2022 08:48 GMT
Scheduled arrival date and time: 20 February 2022 18:10 GMT
Actual arrival date and time: 20 February 2022 20:36 GMT
Total delay: 146 minutes
Since your flight wasn’t delayed in arriving by three hours or more, your claim for compensation under EU Regulation 261/2004 has been refused.
I just don't understand why they're dragging their heels so much, it's pretty obvious that the plane doors were not opened at the time they're stating. My Wife has a photo of us still on the plane at 21:18.
When I do the CEDR claim - would the compensation that we're entitled to be the full rate or reduced rate?
Thanks in advanced for any help!
#713
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I've gone back to them asking if they could confirm that it is their final position and issue me with a deadlock letter so I can take the claim to CEDR. Interestingly they've added some more minutes from their first response. I also advised that their response is not factual and frankly insulting.
I just don't understand why they're dragging their heels so much, it's pretty obvious that the plane doors were not opened at the time they're stating. My Wife has a photo of us still on the plane at 21:18.
When I do the CEDR claim - would the compensation that we're entitled to be the full rate or reduced rate?
I just don't understand why they're dragging their heels so much, it's pretty obvious that the plane doors were not opened at the time they're stating. My Wife has a photo of us still on the plane at 21:18.
When I do the CEDR claim - would the compensation that we're entitled to be the full rate or reduced rate?
#714
Join Date: Feb 2017
Posts: 34
I am now at the 4 week mark from my claim - which was caused by the IT meltdown. I can’t speak for anyone else, but I sure haven’t been fast tracked!!
#715
Join Date: Sep 2013
Posts: 15
Emails to Sean Doyle
Quick question: has anyone recently tried to send an e-mail to Sean Doyle's email to try to get a sensible response to EU compensation related issues? If so, did you get a response and how long did it take?
#716
Join Date: Mar 2018
Location: Edinburgh
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I submitted an EC261 claim on January 19th, after waiting two months for anything other than automated replies I sent an email to Doyle and BAH customer relations. No reply yet.
#717
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It is BA claiming that we arrived 1hr 59mins late although have not provided any documents in their defence bundle to show this. I didn’t mention anything about timing in the CEDR claim - BA customer relations had just initially told us they weren’t paying due to COVID, no mention of not paying due to the timing of arrival. It is only in the CEDR defence they have mentioned this.
We have a slightly weird situation where our original look flight was cancelled for passengers but actually still flew. I included a screenshot of Flightradar showing this and it shows that flight arrived about 1hr early. So in real terms we actually arrived about 3hrs later than we would have had we been on that plane. May not convince them but worth a shot along with challenging the highly convenient point that we supposedly arrived 1min under the 2hr requirement. As CEDR say that consumers cannot provide any further evidence I am hoping the same applies to BA
We have a slightly weird situation where our original look flight was cancelled for passengers but actually still flew. I included a screenshot of Flightradar showing this and it shows that flight arrived about 1hr early. So in real terms we actually arrived about 3hrs later than we would have had we been on that plane. May not convince them but worth a shot along with challenging the highly convenient point that we supposedly arrived 1min under the 2hr requirement. As CEDR say that consumers cannot provide any further evidence I am hoping the same applies to BA
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#718
Join Date: Sep 2013
Posts: 15
Cheers! This is all pretty disappointing after the "commitments to improve" at the start of the year...
#719
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#720
Join Date: Mar 2016
Posts: 79
Currently on a BAH and received a message that the return LHR-CDG leg of the LAX-LHR-CDG trip has been cancelled.
Offered rebooking to a flight that would get us into Paris 3hrs 40mins late. Notification was 8 days before flight.
Two questions:
- we no longer need to be in Paris, I’m planning emailing BAH to say the new flights don’t work and to end the trip in London. Maybe this will generate a small refund?
- any compensation due for the late notice cancellation? Or is this impacted by not taking the rescheduled flight?
thanks as always 😀
Offered rebooking to a flight that would get us into Paris 3hrs 40mins late. Notification was 8 days before flight.
Two questions:
- we no longer need to be in Paris, I’m planning emailing BAH to say the new flights don’t work and to end the trip in London. Maybe this will generate a small refund?
- any compensation due for the late notice cancellation? Or is this impacted by not taking the rescheduled flight?
thanks as always 😀