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Old Mar 12, 2021, 12:17 pm
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Originally Posted by tuonopepper
I think my current theory, as an expiring early 22 Gold with an FTV to burn that should get me a Gold earning TP run, is to book that TP run for the week after my earning year finishes..
That's my approach. My earning year ends Nov. 8, status until Dec. 31. The plan is to do a TP run trip in late December/early January to, effectively, get 2 years.This is for Silver, and the TP run trip would, of course, be international as we';re US-based. Since we are AA EXP (so OWE), we get F lounge access in LHR anyway and don't even need our Silver status for US domestic AA lounge access during this period.

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Old Mar 13, 2021, 8:53 am
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Originally Posted by baflyer999
As a GGL / CCR member whose membership runs until Feb 22 (following last years extension) - I dont anticipate receiving any updates to my account status due to this new development.

This seems to mean that I currently have 11 months to earn my CCR membership (how many TPs even is this nowadays??), which seems fairly tight / impossible given that extensive international travel isnt possible yet and may not be until mid or late 2021 at best.........
Im in a similar position time wise, with GGL renewal.

I think BA will do something for members with earlier dates or they will lose my loyalty and others going forward. Even a 6 month extension would keep me.

Especially as Im GFL, its too much hassle to go through 2 years of heavy flying (if we are even able to in the future?!) to requalify for GGL - would feel like punishment for circumstances out of my control, so I would then be price / product driven rather than carrier/alliance driven going forward.

On the other hand part of me thinks itd be quite nice not to have to focus on BA/Oneworld if they take a harsher path!

One thing is for sure - FFPs are going to change going forward! Maybe those qualification thresholds will permanently drop as well?
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Old Mar 13, 2021, 2:44 pm
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I think giving everyone a min of a year from the date international travel begins again would be reasonable, I'd also keep the reduced thresholds as it's unlikely everywhere long haul will open up.

I'm with you on the 6 months, if they bumped me from Feb 22 end to August 22 end on reduced requal I'd be happy with that. If that doesn't come I'll burn the FTVs to keep status for a couple of years and likely use that time to status match or build up in Flying Blue or *A. Being a Manchester based flyer both of those are already alliances i use on short haul.
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Old Mar 14, 2021, 6:50 am
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Originally Posted by tuonopepper
I think giving everyone a min of a year from the date international travel begins again would be reasonable, I'd also keep the reduced thresholds as it's unlikely everywhere long haul will open up.

I'm with you on the 6 months, if they bumped me from Feb 22 end to August 22 end on reduced requal I'd be happy with that. If that doesn't come I'll burn the FTVs to keep status for a couple of years and likely use that time to status match or build up in Flying Blue or *A. Being a Manchester based flyer both of those are already alliances i use on short haul.
Indeed. It makes no sense to effectively bin high value customers so I am sure they will do something.

I cannot see tier point levels going back up for a while either - big corporations have permanently reduced their travel budgets going forward so Id have thought BA would have to make extra effort to retain high value customers. Its going to be an interesting few years. I dont doubt people will love to be traveling again, but short term at least travel patterns will likely be longer trips rather than lots of weekends away etc, so less TPs earned for most IMHO.
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Old Mar 15, 2021, 6:32 am
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Originally Posted by just_starting
Has there been any recent experience with the "no two exceptions" rule?

My year ends Jan 2022, I've had about 800 TP cancelled this year and I should be able to fly another 400 TP.

I.e., my cancelled flights would get me above the reduced threshold - which seems to be either fine or not fine at all depending on the agent?
I'm surprised there still isn't a single recent data point on this, or at least a discussion around it... Really not sure if it's worth the gamble to try and somehow get to 1200 TP including cancelled flights, when it's unlikely I'll get to 1500 TP.
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Old Mar 15, 2021, 7:51 am
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I've read several posts and the Wiki, but never paid much attention for the past year, so I'm sorry to ask-- As a June 8th qualifying year end, with a 31st July card year that was already extended to 2022, nothing changes for me, is that correct? I was already very happy with that.
Seems this new change from last week is for those with July-Dec accrual years?
Please correct me if I'm wrong and I should be paying better attention!
Thanks.
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Old Mar 15, 2021, 7:54 am
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Originally Posted by kyushuman
I've read several posts and the Wiki, but never paid much attention for the past year, so I'm sorry to ask-- As a June 8th qualifying year end, with a 31st July card year that was already extended to 2022, nothing changes for me, is that correct? I was already very happy with that.
Seems this new change from last week is for those with July-Dec accrual years?
Please correct me if I'm wrong and I should be paying better attention!
Thanks.
You're correct that last week's announcement doesn't affect you.
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Old Mar 15, 2021, 9:04 am
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Originally Posted by kyushuman
I've read several posts and the Wiki, but never paid much attention for the past year, so I'm sorry to ask-- As a June 8th qualifying year end, with a 31st July card year that was already extended to 2022, nothing changes for me, is that correct? I was already very happy with that.
Seems this new change from last week is for those with July-Dec accrual years?
Please correct me if I'm wrong and I should be paying better attention!
Thanks.

all good for you as noted.

you would need to start earning this june at the lower tier rates to keep your status jun 2022-23
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Old Mar 15, 2021, 3:59 pm
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Me and the Mrs. are both GGLs with Jan 2022 year ends. Total for 2021 will be under 400TP mostly from a one way from EU to Thailand on QR.

I'm thinking if it comes to it we'll just gift the giftable Golds to each other in Dec and at least have Gold for 2022 to find another FFP. I don't really think it will come to this and hope BA will to come to their senses but it doesn't hurt to have a backup.
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Old Mar 15, 2021, 4:48 pm
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It is a win for me as an October member, as I didn’t really benefit in the last round. I had already earned gold, so I just got the reduced TP requirement benefit.
I’ve just gone through all my 4 upcoming CW returns to the USA booked this year, and moved them all to AAdvantage, so I will be able to hit Executive Platinum again. Although no real benefits over BA Gold, as a US based member, the upgrade options on AA are pretty good.

But BA gold is great for the flagship checkin at my home airport MIA, and the escorted security channel is worth it right there......
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Old Mar 15, 2021, 5:10 pm
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Originally Posted by AnttiV
Me and the Mrs. are both GGLs with Jan 2022 year ends. Total for 2021 will be under 400TP mostly from a one way from EU to Thailand on QR.

I'm thinking if it comes to it we'll just gift the giftable Golds to each other in Dec and at least have Gold for 2022 to find another FFP. I don't really think it will come to this and hope BA will to come to their senses but it doesn't hurt to have a backup.
Unfortunately that plan wont work. Youll both still be GGL in December so you cant gift each other Gold at that point. Gifting someone equivalent or lower status than what they hold currently isnt possible, and can only be done on the expiry of that persons current status. In your case your GGL status will end at the end of Feb 2022, but your partner cards disappear with your TP year on 8 January 2022 (actually they disappear at midnight between the 7th and the 8th) so at the point you can gift each other Gold cards, you wont have any Gold cards to gift.
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Old Mar 16, 2021, 4:24 am
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Originally Posted by SuperstarDJ
Indeed. It makes no sense to effectively bin high value customers so I am sure they will do something.

I cannot see tier point levels going back up for a while either - big corporations have permanently reduced their travel budgets going forward so Id have thought BA would have to make extra effort to retain high value customers. Its going to be an interesting few years. I dont doubt people will love to be traveling again, but short term at least travel patterns will likely be longer trips rather than lots of weekends away etc, so less TPs earned for most IMHO.
As things stand TP levels have already gone back up to full levels for people who have just been given an extension.

BA certainly know who is valuable and key account managers will give out shiny pieces of plastic coloured Gold and Silver if necessary to their account customers to distribute accordingly.

I suspect with BAs focus on the premium leisure market for the time beIng Id imagine the lounges will be full with non status passengers travelling in J or F. Indeed it wouldnt surprise me if they started charging Mr BAEC Blue for lounge access to generate income.
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Old Mar 16, 2021, 4:28 am
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Originally Posted by KeaneJohn
As things stand TP levels have already gone back up to full levels for people who have just been given an extension.
Subject to further changes, the first people who will start having to qualify at normal rates are those with a collection year 9 July 2021 to 8 July 2022. I dont think anyone currently is in a membership year where they require normal level TPs.
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Old Mar 16, 2021, 4:32 am
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Originally Posted by KeaneJohn

I suspect with BAs focus on the premium leisure market for the time beIng Id imagine the lounges will be full with non status passengers travelling in J or F. Indeed it wouldnt surprise me if they started charging Mr BAEC Blue for lounge access to generate income.
Agree with that. Also I think the business owner type premium traveller will still be a business customer, but that obviously doesnt fill the gap left by big business. Change afoot either way!
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Old Mar 16, 2021, 1:50 pm
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Thank you for the heads up! In this case I'll probably call the GGL line in Dec to negotiate if there is no further extension maybe they'll exchange the giftable Golds for extensions or something.

I like BAEC but BA as an airline is something I kind of put up with because I like BAEC so knocking both of us down to Silver in this situation will definitely be a deal breaker for good.

Originally Posted by gcuk
Unfortunately that plan wont work. Youll both still be GGL in December so you cant gift each other Gold at that point. Gifting someone equivalent or lower status than what they hold currently isnt possible, and can only be done on the expiry of that persons current status. In your case your GGL status will end at the end of Feb 2022, but your partner cards disappear with your TP year on 8 January 2022 (actually they disappear at midnight between the 7th and the 8th) so at the point you can gift each other Gold cards, you wont have any Gold cards to gift.
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