FAQ : BAEC : status extensions & Tier Point (re)qualification thresholds reduced
#1891
Join Date: Aug 2010
Location: London Stratford, E7
Programs: BAEC Gold! Thanks to FT
Posts: 3,379
I wasn't so fortunate. July collection end, was silver and had cancelled flights in March\Apr that would have renewed and a further big earning trip in July, just after collection end but within the normal 2 week "grace" period, that was also cancelled which would have got me to gold.
After the 1 year extension was pushed to all I got the extension to 31 Aug 2021, and then around the end of June I requested BAEC look at my cancelled flights with a view to credit the TP's. This was successful so have gold, but no further extension of date, so still expiring Aug 2021 with very little likelihood of being able to use the gold benefits. Happy to get the new tier, especially as I've been refunded on all the flights so effectively has the TP's for free, trying hard not to be miffed about those who have much longer extensions.
TL; DR; my tier upgrade, via discretionary TP's for cancelled flights, did not get a further date extension.
After the 1 year extension was pushed to all I got the extension to 31 Aug 2021, and then around the end of June I requested BAEC look at my cancelled flights with a view to credit the TP's. This was successful so have gold, but no further extension of date, so still expiring Aug 2021 with very little likelihood of being able to use the gold benefits. Happy to get the new tier, especially as I've been refunded on all the flights so effectively has the TP's for free, trying hard not to be miffed about those who have much longer extensions.
TL; DR; my tier upgrade, via discretionary TP's for cancelled flights, did not get a further date extension.
#1893
Join Date: Aug 2015
Location: Effectively grounded
Programs: BA GGL for a little while longer
Posts: 844
#1894
Join Date: Nov 2017
Programs: BA, Hilton
Posts: 2,091
So just been upgraded to silver for the first time (I used to have a Caledonian Lion Club badge, not sure that qualifies for DYKHIA?), have noted that my card now expires Nov 2022 which is very welcome as reading the above (well some of it!) I assumed I would only get the silver for the one year after this year ends..i.e. Nov 2021 Is this a change in policy?).
Members who are upgrading a tier should get the extension. Based on experiences reported in this thread, that appears to happen regardless of whether the upgrade happened before BA processed all the expiry updates or afterwards. We know that when a member upgrades BA adjusts their expiry date there and then - adding 1 year - presumably so that in normal times the member immediately sees that they will enjoy their new tier for the rest of their current year and all of the following year. And from what has been reported, they are still doing exactly that by examining the expiry date and 'blindly' adding 1 year to it.
So in your case your timeline would have been something like:
May: Expiry is Nov 2020
Jun: Expiry becomes Nov 2021 as BA processes changes for extension
Now: Expiry becomes Nov 2022 as BA adds 1 year to your current expiry as you have upgraded a tier.
This is consistent with how it would have been processed if you had upgraded before the extensions were applied, just the last two steps would have been reversed but each would individually add 1 year, so same outcome.
If you had started the year as a Silver and simply retained that level (whether retaining before or after the extensions were processed) then you wouldn't have gained the extra year and you would stay at Nov 2021. So you're definitely one of the winners here
#1895
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#1896
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Join Date: Jun 2008
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#1897
Join Date: Jun 2016
Location: Surrey
Programs: BA Gold, VS Gold, Eurostar CB, IHG Spire, Hilton Diamond, Bonvoy Titanium, Hertz President Circle
Posts: 435
May: Silver Expiry is Feb 2021
Jun: Silver Expiry becomes Feb 2022 as BA processes changes for extension
Collect 1125 TPs before 8 Jan 2021: Expiry becomes Feb 2023 as BA adds 1 year to your current expiry as you have upgraded a tier. And so retain Silver until Feb 2024.
I must be missing something, because this seems too good to be true! Can someone confirm?
#1898
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Join Date: Apr 2012
Location: Leeds, UK
Programs: BA GGL/CCR, GfL, HH Diamond
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I haven't kept up with this thread after deducing in the early days that I was not a winner in this policy, but I'd missed what happens if you upgrade a tier after the June 12 month extension. My situation is this:
May: Silver Expiry is Feb 2021
Jun: Silver Expiry becomes Feb 2022 as BA processes changes for extension
Collect 1125 TPs before 8 Jan 2021: Expiry becomes Feb 2023 as BA adds 1 year to your current expiry as you have upgraded a tier. And so retain Silver until Feb 2024.
I must be missing something, because this seems too good to be true! Can someone confirm?
May: Silver Expiry is Feb 2021
Jun: Silver Expiry becomes Feb 2022 as BA processes changes for extension
Collect 1125 TPs before 8 Jan 2021: Expiry becomes Feb 2023 as BA adds 1 year to your current expiry as you have upgraded a tier. And so retain Silver until Feb 2024.
I must be missing something, because this seems too good to be true! Can someone confirm?
So you have already had your extension and card expiry then showed as 28 Feb 2022 (1 year more than your normal card expiry of 28 Feb 2021).
You then upgrade (not renew)
As part of that upgrade process the system just does "add 1 year to current expiry date" as would be normal for an upgrade, so that takes you to 28 Feb 2023.
#1899
Join Date: Nov 2017
Programs: BA, Hilton
Posts: 2,091
I haven't kept up with this thread after deducing in the early days that I was not a winner in this policy, but I'd missed what happens if you upgrade a tier after the June 12 month extension. My situation is this:
May: Silver Expiry is Feb 2021
Jun: Silver Expiry becomes Feb 2022 as BA processes changes for extension
Collect 1125 TPs before 8 Jan 2021: Expiry becomes Feb 2023 as BA adds 1 year to your current expiry as you have upgraded a tier. And so retain Silver until Feb 2024.
I must be missing something, because this seems too good to be true! Can someone confirm?
May: Silver Expiry is Feb 2021
Jun: Silver Expiry becomes Feb 2022 as BA processes changes for extension
Collect 1125 TPs before 8 Jan 2021: Expiry becomes Feb 2023 as BA adds 1 year to your current expiry as you have upgraded a tier. And so retain Silver until Feb 2024.
I must be missing something, because this seems too good to be true! Can someone confirm?
So your scenario seems entirely feasible to me.
If you look back to post 1853 you will see Sam Lewis reporting essentially the same thing, they went from Bronze to Silver after the extension was applied and got the extra year, just the same as Giblets recent post. I see no reason why the same logic would not apply with a move from Silver up to Gold, giving an expiry of Feb 2023, and with your soft landing, seems that you would retain Silver until Feb 2024. Your position seems to me to be the same as the other posters, albeit with a collection year a few months later on, which pushes your expiry into 2023.
There is a very broad range of possible outcomes with the policy that BAEC have put in place, but this would seem to be one of the best ones
#1900
Join Date: Jun 2016
Location: Surrey
Programs: BA Gold, VS Gold, Eurostar CB, IHG Spire, Hilton Diamond, Bonvoy Titanium, Hertz President Circle
Posts: 435
this seems consistent with post 1853 and some of the posts after that.
So you have already had your extension and card expiry then showed as 28 Feb 2022 (1 year more than your normal card expiry of 28 Feb 2021).
You then upgrade (not renew)
As part of that upgrade process the system just does "add 1 year to current expiry date" as would be normal for an upgrade, so that takes you to 28 Feb 2023.
So you have already had your extension and card expiry then showed as 28 Feb 2022 (1 year more than your normal card expiry of 28 Feb 2021).
You then upgrade (not renew)
As part of that upgrade process the system just does "add 1 year to current expiry date" as would be normal for an upgrade, so that takes you to 28 Feb 2023.
If I'm allowed to travel to Russia and Colombia before June then I have this in the bag...
#1901
Join Date: Nov 2017
Programs: BA, Hilton
Posts: 2,091
Typo for Jan I assume? (Your original post seems to recognise the need to hit Gold before Jan 8th)
Hopefully you get the chance. As noted, BA could change the way they do the processing of tier upgrades to take account of people who have had extensions but they haven't done so to date, and my guess would be that they won't in the future.
Hopefully you get the chance. As noted, BA could change the way they do the processing of tier upgrades to take account of people who have had extensions but they haven't done so to date, and my guess would be that they won't in the future.
#1902
Join Date: Jun 2016
Location: Surrey
Programs: BA Gold, VS Gold, Eurostar CB, IHG Spire, Hilton Diamond, Bonvoy Titanium, Hertz President Circle
Posts: 435
Typo for Jan I assume? (Your original post seems to recognise the need to hit Gold before Jan 8th)
Hopefully you get the chance. As noted, BA could change the way they do the processing of tier upgrades to take account of people who have had extensions but they haven't done so to date, and my guess would be that they won't in the future.
Hopefully you get the chance. As noted, BA could change the way they do the processing of tier upgrades to take account of people who have had extensions but they haven't done so to date, and my guess would be that they won't in the future.
And you're right... no-one can confirm that it will play out exactly like this, but I just wanted confirmation that I wasn't being hopelessly optimistic
#1903
Join Date: Jul 2018
Location: Mexico
Programs: BAEC Gold / Marriott Platinum
Posts: 3,547
I haven't kept up with this thread after deducing in the early days that I was not a winner in this policy, but I'd missed what happens if you upgrade a tier after the June 12 month extension. My situation is this:
May: Silver Expiry is Feb 2021
Jun: Silver Expiry becomes Feb 2022 as BA processes changes for extension
Collect 1125 TPs before 8 Jan 2021: Expiry becomes Feb 2023 as BA adds 1 year to your current expiry as you have upgraded a tier. And so retain Silver until Feb 2024.
I must be missing something, because this seems too good to be true! Can someone confirm?
May: Silver Expiry is Feb 2021
Jun: Silver Expiry becomes Feb 2022 as BA processes changes for extension
Collect 1125 TPs before 8 Jan 2021: Expiry becomes Feb 2023 as BA adds 1 year to your current expiry as you have upgraded a tier. And so retain Silver until Feb 2024.
I must be missing something, because this seems too good to be true! Can someone confirm?
#1904
Join Date: May 2017
Programs: BA Gold
Posts: 274
Hello!
I'm a Sept year end, and re-qualified for Silver back in Dec for the 2019-2020 collection year. My card expiry is still showing as Oct 2021 though - so have I not been extended? Or was it a pointless extension in that I'd earned the points for it anyway?
Hopefully this is academic, I'm at 1090 TP and should get to the 1125 threshold in a couple of weeks, hopefully to 2022!
Thanks!
I'm a Sept year end, and re-qualified for Silver back in Dec for the 2019-2020 collection year. My card expiry is still showing as Oct 2021 though - so have I not been extended? Or was it a pointless extension in that I'd earned the points for it anyway?
Hopefully this is academic, I'm at 1090 TP and should get to the 1125 threshold in a couple of weeks, hopefully to 2022!
Thanks!
#1905
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Join Date: Apr 2012
Location: Leeds, UK
Programs: BA GGL/CCR, GfL, HH Diamond
Posts: 42,967
Hello!
I'm a Sept year end, and re-qualified for Silver back in Dec for the 2019-2020 collection year. My card expiry is still showing as Oct 2021 though - so have I not been extended? Or was it a pointless extension in that I'd earned the points for it anyway?
Hopefully this is academic, I'm at 1090 TP and should get to the 1125 threshold in a couple of weeks, hopefully to 2022!
Thanks!
I'm a Sept year end, and re-qualified for Silver back in Dec for the 2019-2020 collection year. My card expiry is still showing as Oct 2021 though - so have I not been extended? Or was it a pointless extension in that I'd earned the points for it anyway?
Hopefully this is academic, I'm at 1090 TP and should get to the 1125 threshold in a couple of weeks, hopefully to 2022!
Thanks!
you are correct that you would have got that extra year if you renew in your current year anyway.