Go Back  FlyerTalk Forums > Miles&Points > Airlines and Mileage Programs > British Airways | Executive Club
Reload this Page >

* 20 Apr '22 UPDATE * : BAEC : status extensions & qualification thresholds reduced.

* 20 Apr '22 UPDATE * : BAEC : status extensions & qualification thresholds reduced.

    Hide Wikipost
Old Jul 10, 22, 9:14 pm   -   Wikipost
Please read: This is a community-maintained wiki post containing the most important information from this thread. You may edit the Wiki once you have been on FT for 90 days and have made 90 posts.
 
Last edit by: Tobias-UK
Wiki Link
AS OF 11 July 2022:

BRITISH AIRWAYS PROTECTS TIER STATUS FOR ITS LOYAL EXECUTIVE CLUB MEMBERS
  • Gold Guest List with renewal dates July-December 2022 will be extended for a further 12 months
  • Gold members with renewal dates July-September 2022 will be extended for a further 12 months
  • Silver and bronze do not get any further renewal
  • However, Silver members with renewal dates July-September 2022 will given a 50% reduction in the amount of tier points needed (From 600 to 300 TPs)
  • Everyone else still gets the 25% reduction in tier points until 31 December. This also applies if you want to qualify for a higher status level.


See post 796 for further details https://www.flyertalk.com/forum/32452931-post796.html

https://www.britishairways.com/en-gb...efits#vouchers

20 Sep 21 Update - see post #3594 onwards

21 Dec 21 Update - see post #3942 onwards

20 Apr 22 Update - see post #4483 onwards

The graph Illustrated below covers simple renewal milestones (collection year start/end dates) onto a blue bar (mid blue represents your current membership year; dark blue represents the extension periods). This does not touch the effect tier jumps have on the extension end dates. You can find confirmation of the extension being added to your BAEC account via "My Executive Club". This is signified by the "Card expiry date"


Updated 20 September 2021


Coronavirus: How the Executive Club is supporting you
Were adding 12 months extra onto your Executive Club membership so you have more time to enjoy your benefits, whenever youre ready to fly.

All members will benefit, starting with those who have a Tier Point collection end date of July 2020, through to June 2021.

Whats more, it will be even easier to retain your status next time youre up for renewal, as weve decreased the amount of Tier Points needed by 25%. This is the same for upgrades thresholds too, making that next Tier more achievable.

This results in lower Tier qualification thresholds, as shown below:

Bronze: 225 Tier Points or 18 eligible flights
Silver: 450 Tier Points or 37 eligible flights
Gold: 1125 Tier Points
Gold Guest List: 3,750 Tier Points (to attain), 2,250 Tier Points (to retain) [not in the original email but understood to be true]


To ensure our Members still have the opportunity to use their Gold Upgrade Vouchers, Companion Vouchers and Travel Together Tickets earned via a British Airways credit card, weve applied 6-month expiration extension to any current vouchers.

See link to BA site for further FAQs.


Print Wikipost

Old Jun 27, 21, 2:14 am
  #3196  
 
Join Date: Nov 2017
Programs: BA, Hilton
Posts: 1,647
Originally Posted by SpammersAreScum View Post
My year ends 8 Jul. I have received no email from BA, possibly because I currently have no status. However, I expected to change that this fall, and so the question of reduced thresholds is of interest. If I am understanding things correctly, I am in the first cohort to lose that benefit?
Correct.

I'm in the same situation, from the 9th of next month it is (currently) back to full amounts needed
BertieBadger is offline  
Old Jun 27, 21, 9:45 am
  #3197  
 
Join Date: Feb 2016
Posts: 44
Yes, its a shame the reduced tier points arent being continued, I was going to make a dart for GGL!

Fingers crossed we hear something in the next week!
BobOnBA is offline  
Old Jun 27, 21, 10:32 am
  #3198  
FlyerTalk Evangelist
 
Join Date: Nov 2018
Location: Istanbul, Turkey
Programs: TK Elite Plus,QR Platinum,BAEC GGL,ITA Executive,Frontier 20k,All Silver,HH Diamond,Bonvoy Gold
Posts: 12,720
I'm also waiting for the reduced thresholds.
If the GGL threshold is down to 3750TP's, I might push it for the first time. Otherwise, I'll consider other airline options when I hit 1500TP's.
ISTFlyer is offline  
Old Jun 27, 21, 1:15 pm
  #3199  
 
Join Date: Feb 2016
Posts: 44
I think the fact you and I are viewing it as a chance to sneak into a higher tier rather than requalifying for where wed usually hit suggests BA dont really need to be extending it at this point.

I hope Im wrong, the other argument is July, August, September are unlikely to be normal travel months
BobOnBA is offline  
Old Jun 27, 21, 2:08 pm
  #3200  
 
Join Date: Oct 2018
Posts: 23
Come on BA!!!

I get the early qualification through lower tiers but there are lots of us who have spent years with BA status at GGL + CCR that will stand to lose this by Feb because there are no sign of further extension at this point. As it stands theres no sign of US Asia or ME opening up. BA needs to do something but not holding hope at this point I just dont see how I can get to 3750 TPs by Jan with no travelling permitted. Surely this is where they should focus?
wanderingjock likes this.
Jflyer123 is offline  
Old Jun 27, 21, 2:15 pm
  #3201  
 
Join Date: Dec 2009
Location: near Heathrow
Programs: BA GGL/CCR, GfL (OWE), SA LifePlat (*G), BD Gold to the end, Hilton Diamond
Posts: 2,529
July 2021 year ends sweated it out until March 2021 before the extension came through, so still time for BA to come through for the January 2022 year ends if BA apply the same timeframe as it would be during September 2021 that extensions for the January to June 2022 group would be processed.
gcuk is offline  
Old Jun 27, 21, 3:14 pm
  #3202  
 
Join Date: Sep 2004
Location: GLA
Programs: Mucci, BA Gold, Hilton Gold
Posts: 1,316
Originally Posted by BobOnBA View Post
Yes, its a shame the reduced tier points arent being continued...
I don't know if i'd rule anything out just yet! I do think that it's disappointing that BA aren't being more pro-active about extensions and updates, as the only people they are at risk of alienating through poor communication are (by virtue of their status) their most regular and loyal customers. Regardless of whether Asia and the US open up in the next couple of months or not, a LOT of the big corporate customers will have dialed back staff travel considerably for the foreseeable future. Unless travelling on their own dime (or their own business' finances), many of the previous Gold and GGL travellers won't be able to hit their previous travel and spend levels even if they want to (and are able to with borders reopening). The TP thresholds are a great start, but they need to keep them going for at least another 12 months, as well as coming up with another metric to extend status for longer for those who have been gold/silver repeatedly for a number of years. Truly, what real difference does this make to BA? If the member can't travel, then they won't be using the facilities and "costing" BA Money, and they will be more inclined to remain loyal to BA for the next couple of years if they know their status is being maintained for, say, another 2 years at least. If they CAN travel, they they will be inclined to spend it with BA, and for many of them they will be travelling in a premium cabin anyway, so would have got the majority of the benefits regardless.
efincomputer is offline  
Old Jun 27, 21, 3:24 pm
  #3203  
Ambassador, British Airways; FlyerTalk Evangelist
 
Join Date: Apr 2012
Location: Leeds, UK
Programs: BA GGL/CCR, GfL, HH Diamond
Posts: 36,825
I think an extension for another 2 years (on top of what has already been given) is somewhat unrealistic. At some point you have to put your bum on a seat and fly if you want status with an airline. We haven't really reached the stage when there are no more extensions, and I personally think those with year ends January to June 2022 will get a blanket extension, but beyond that my suspicion is no more. I did raise this issue back in post 3041.

I am afraid at some point BA will draw a line and this may still be at a stage when your own employer is still reducing/stopping work travel, or whilst your usual routes are still not open.
KARFA is online now  
Old Jun 27, 21, 3:39 pm
  #3204  
FlyerTalk Evangelist
 
Join Date: Nov 2018
Location: Istanbul, Turkey
Programs: TK Elite Plus,QR Platinum,BAEC GGL,ITA Executive,Frontier 20k,All Silver,HH Diamond,Bonvoy Gold
Posts: 12,720
Originally Posted by KARFA View Post
I think an extension for another 2 years is somewhat unrealistic. At some point you have to put your bum on a seat and fly if you want status with an airline. We haven't really reached the stage when there are no more extensions, and I personally think those with year ends January to June 2022 will get a blanket extension, but beyond that my suspicion is no more. I did raise this issue back in post 3041.

I am afraid at some point BA will draw a line and this may still be at a stage when your own employer is still reducing/stopping work travel, or whilst your usual routes are still not open.
Exactly, I definitely agree with this comment.

BA would take action at some point but it doesn't specifically need to be early about 400 days before the first member that would drop status.
I would expect the 25% reduced thresholds for another year to be announced until fall and another extension probably by then or in the winter. It's not realistic to expect something 400 days before the first member drops status with only pure prediction available for the future.
efincomputer likes this.
ISTFlyer is offline  
Old Jun 27, 21, 3:57 pm
  #3205  
 
Join Date: Sep 2004
Location: GLA
Programs: Mucci, BA Gold, Hilton Gold
Posts: 1,316
Not disagreeing with either KARFA or ISTFlyer here - I appreciate that BA have enough recovery problems to worry about at the moment beyond large scale extensions - I suppose I am just taking a slightly simplistic view that further extensions might actually cost BA very little in the long run (but appreciate things are never that simple).
KARFA, ISTFlyer and drwook like this.
efincomputer is offline  
Old Jun 28, 21, 1:06 am
  #3206  
Ambassador, British Airways Executive Club, easyJet and Ryanair
 
Join Date: Sep 2011
Location: UK/Las Vegas
Programs: BA Gold (GGL/CCR)
Posts: 14,888
Originally Posted by BobOnBA View Post
Yes, it’s a shame the reduced tier points aren’t being continued, I was going to make a dart for GGL!

Fingers crossed we hear something in the next week!
I wouldn’t hold much hope that any announcement will be made before September.
Tobias-UK is offline  
Old Jun 28, 21, 1:44 am
  #3207  
 
Join Date: Feb 2016
Posts: 44
Well September is definitely better then than never!

It does leave me wondering what to to do with a couple of Avios redemptions I have booked for September/October. With the BA Holidays offer, which Id be eligible for, id certainly almost cancel it and rebook as BA Holidays revenue tickets.

Also travel Im looking at booking now for the new year would need to be with BA to have any hope.

I think wait and see is the best self-advice I can give!
BobOnBA is offline  
Old Jun 28, 21, 2:04 am
  #3208  
 
Join Date: Oct 2019
Programs: BAEC Gold / OWE, Volare Executive / Skyteam Elite+
Posts: 562
Originally Posted by efincomputer View Post
I suppose I am just taking a slightly simplistic view that further extensions might actually cost BA very little in the long run (but appreciate things are never that simple).
I think that's very similar to my perspective. If they extend us all but we still don't/can't fly, the net cost looks pretty close to zero. If they extend us and things do open up, the whole hook of the status is to encourage us to book seats on BA (or at least Oneworld) planes, otherwise we can't use any benefits and the net cost is still zero (less postage of a plastic card, if requested)....?
efincomputer likes this.
drwook is online now  
Old Jun 28, 21, 5:32 am
  #3209  
 
Join Date: Jul 2005
Location: London, ARN, HEL, ..... or MAN
Programs: BA GFL, GGL, Mucci Diamond!, HH Diamond, Radisson Gold, IHG Diamond, Hertz Gold 5*
Posts: 5,464
Well we will find out in 10 days' time but it seems that from 8th July I'll be back to a target of 3000 TPs to retain GGL or 5000 for CCR which, considering the routes realistically open to me, is going to be quite a challenge until or unless the US opens up.

I have managed about 750 TPs in the last year and won't actually have ever had a lower TP target to aim for due to the current extensions.

Anyhow, it's been fun and I do understand why BA may decide that enough is now enough and the July year-enders will be the first to fall - actually I wonder whether the loyalty team is even working other than as a very skeleton staff at the moment, especially if most managers are on furlough.
crazyarmadillo likes this.
ThatT1Feeling is offline  
Old Jun 28, 21, 5:46 am
  #3210  
 
Join Date: Jul 2011
Location: LHR / LAS
Programs: BA GfL, GGL/CCR
Posts: 2,122
Originally Posted by ThatT1Feeling View Post
Well we will find out in 10 days' time but it seems that from 8th July I'll be back to a target of 3000 TPs to retain GGL or 5000 for CCR which, considering the routes realistically open to me, is going to be quite a challenge until or unless the US opens up.

I have managed about 750 TPs in the last year and won't actually have ever had a lower TP target to aim for due to the current extensions.

Anyhow, it's been fun and I do understand why BA may decide that enough is now enough and the July year-enders will be the first to fall - actually I wonder whether the loyalty team is even working other than as a very skeleton staff at the moment, especially if most managers are on furlough.
It does seem that way at the moment, that's Julys are going to be somewhat at a disadvantage, yet again. Hopefully US and UK will open up soon (after July 21 when US Canada opens) , well maybe.....

We only managed 500 TP in our last year (June).

I'm forever the optimist and sure that BA will address these matters in the months to come. But as said above, I suppose the time comes when they will just stop extending things. A few other companies I deal with (US) have started saying we are all back to 'normal' now.

EDIT (land border I refer US / canada)

Last edited by crazyarmadillo; Jun 28, 21 at 6:05 am Reason: EDIT - Land Border
crazyarmadillo is offline  

Thread Tools
Search this Thread