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Old Jul 11, 2020, 3:52 pm
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Love the coat of arms at the rear of First, very classy!
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Old Jul 20, 2020, 4:45 am
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I see DFW is back to PAX service today. Is this the first passenger flight on 78X?
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Old Jul 20, 2020, 4:51 am
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Originally Posted by BenWBriscoe
I see DFW is back to PAX service today. Is this the first passenger flight on 78X?
nope. This must be about the 5th one for the 78X
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Old Jul 20, 2020, 4:54 am
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I thought that the 78X wasn't being used for passenger flights until 1st August on the ATL route?
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Old Jul 20, 2020, 4:55 am
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Originally Posted by BenWBriscoe
I thought that the 78X wasn't being used for passenger flights until 1st August on the ATL route?
that was the original plan. Seems as though BA changed plans
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Old Jul 20, 2020, 5:18 am
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Although strangely the BA website isn't showing any First on that flight?!
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Old Jul 20, 2020, 5:58 am
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Originally Posted by BenWBriscoe
Although strangely the BA website isn't showing any First on that flight?!
If crew aren’t stopping over, perhaps F is reserved for crew.
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Old Jul 20, 2020, 6:10 am
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Originally Posted by BenWBriscoe
Although strangely the BA website isn't showing any First on that flight?!
The 193 departing today, operated by BLB, has F customers.

Originally Posted by richardwft
If crew aren’t stopping over, perhaps F is reserved for crew.
DFW is operating as normal now, with regards to trip duration.
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Old Jul 29, 2020, 3:26 pm
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https://www.linkedin.com/posts/iagcargo ... activity-6

https://iagcargomagazine.com/2020/07/28 ... craft/amp/

Well BA/IAG seem to love their new -10. Especially its cargo capabilities in this time. Apparently They have been working together with Boeing to fully understand and maximise the aircrafts cargo capabilities. It apparently joins the league of the 300ER according to IAG cargo.
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Old Jul 30, 2020, 5:14 am
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Originally Posted by opus99
https://www.linkedin.com/posts/iagcargo ... activity-6

https://iagcargomagazine.com/2020/07/28 ... craft/amp/

Well BA/IAG seem to love their new -10. Especially its cargo capabilities in this time. Apparently They have been working together with Boeing to fully understand and maximise the aircrafts cargo capabilities. It apparently joins the league of the 300ER according to IAG cargo.
How does this compare to A35K? I imagine the latter is higher capacity?
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Old Jul 30, 2020, 5:52 am
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Originally Posted by rhysflies
How does this compare to A35K? I imagine the latter is higher capacity?
To compare this is number of the standard LD3 containers each can take:

B788: 28
B744: 32
B789/A359: 36
A388: 38
B78X: 40
B77W/A35K: 44

So yes the A35K of BA and their B77W take slightly more. But the A350/B77W are a fair bit bigger and more expensive to operate. So on a per container basis I think the 787-10 is hard to beat. Specifics on operating costs of each frame I can’t comment on.
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Old Jul 30, 2020, 5:54 am
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Originally Posted by rhysflies
How does this compare to A35K? I imagine the latter is higher capacity?
This is a great article that sums up the different capacities.

http://www.lcfconversions.com/uploads/news_23.pdf
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Old Jul 30, 2020, 5:59 am
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Originally Posted by george77300
To compare this is number of the standard LD3 containers each can take:

B788: 28
B744: 32
B789/A359: 36
A388: 38
B78X: 40
B77W/A35K: 44

So yes the A35K of BA and their B77W take slightly more. But the A350/B77W are a fair bit bigger and more expensive to operate. So on a per container basis I think the 787-10 is hard to beat. Specifics on operating costs of each frame I can’t comment on.
Would you have similar numbers for PAG pallets please? I'm not overly familiar with cargo but, judging what I've historically seen being towed by the Terbergs over in T5 I'd say that PAGs outnumbered LD3s 2:1 or even 3:1... thanks!
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Old Jul 30, 2020, 6:05 am
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Originally Posted by 13901
Would you have similar numbers for PAG pallets please? I'm not overly familiar with cargo but, judging what I've historically seen being towed by the Terbergs over in T5 I'd say that PAGs outnumbered LD3s 2:1 or even 3:1... thanks!
pallets:

13 for the 787-10
11 for the A359
14 for the A35K
14 for the 77W

now these are pallets in general. On IAG cargo it says the 777-300ER can take 9 PAG and 4AKE (doesn’t specify for the A35K) in their config.

so I’m not sure how many PAG pallets/AKE In their config for the -10. But it looks like when you combine fuel burn and the cargo capabilities mixed with BA’s route network. The -10 works perfectly for cargo and dare I say for BA in general
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Old Jul 30, 2020, 7:19 am
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Originally Posted by george77300
To compare this is number of the standard LD3 containers each can take:

B788: 28
B744: 32
B789/A359: 36
A388: 38
B78X: 40
B77W/A35K: 44

So yes the A35K of BA and their B77W take slightly more. But the A350/B77W are a fair bit bigger and more expensive to operate. So on a per container basis I think the 787-10 is hard to beat. Specifics on operating costs of each frame I can’t comment on.
Thanks, very interesting! According to this document, the A359 is marginally more efficient than the 789 on transatlantic routes. I wonder what the difference is between A35K and 78X

https://theicct.org/sites/default/fi...g_20180912.pdf
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