Trying to throw BA a bone. Prices spat back in my face!
#91
Join Date: Feb 2020
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So my holiday to Antigua was cancelled as you could imagine.
So despite the massive financial risk to me if I rebook it now (no travel insurance for Corona) I thought I would do it early, surely BA would be in no position to up prices seeing as how demand is completely rock bottom. You know, supply and demand.
Anyway, same holiday next year (which again would be a massive risk for me to book now). Is considerably more expensive! Seriously?? I fail to believe there is more demand for a holiday right now than there was this time last year!
Anyone know what is going on? If BA wants to get back on its feet at some point then they would do well to not take the Micky out of the few people waiting to help them.
So despite the massive financial risk to me if I rebook it now (no travel insurance for Corona) I thought I would do it early, surely BA would be in no position to up prices seeing as how demand is completely rock bottom. You know, supply and demand.
Anyway, same holiday next year (which again would be a massive risk for me to book now). Is considerably more expensive! Seriously?? I fail to believe there is more demand for a holiday right now than there was this time last year!
Anyone know what is going on? If BA wants to get back on its feet at some point then they would do well to not take the Micky out of the few people waiting to help them.
#92
Join Date: Aug 2014
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i seem to be (maybe the only one) who is with OP on this. From my understanding OP isn't saying that they want a cheap holiday deal but expect the price to be similar to when they tried to book it before the crisis. BA currently is running out of cash quickly and has already reached out to the government for a potential bail out (beyond the guaranteed credit line the government has already extended to them and virgin which is not free..). I think people on this thread would have a very different opinion if a person requested more money from their employer, their employer said no and no longer hired them so instead the government gave them the money they wanted. But that is effectively what BA is doing.
Believe it or not we are going into at least a few months if not years where people will have less money and companies will cut back on unnecessary expense e.g. some corporate travel. BA will not see as much demand and should therefore be welcoming business. If a holiday to Antigua was profitable to them last year at lets say £2000 why are they no longer willing to to do it at that price? Even though oil prices are lower and hotels have empty rooms.
Believe it or not we are going into at least a few months if not years where people will have less money and companies will cut back on unnecessary expense e.g. some corporate travel. BA will not see as much demand and should therefore be welcoming business. If a holiday to Antigua was profitable to them last year at lets say £2000 why are they no longer willing to to do it at that price? Even though oil prices are lower and hotels have empty rooms.
The thing is that you seem to be making the in my opinion false assumption, that you can easily book the same package holiday or flights each year and get relatively the same price easily. Ultimately the price of flights and hotel will depend on A) how far ahead/ when you book B) what prices BA offer for fares and the rooms and price the hotel are offering C) what is actually available based on demand from what they are offering.
#93
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The thing is that you seem to be making the in my opinion false assumption, that you can easily book the same package holiday or flights each year and get relatively the same price easily. Ultimately the price of flights and hotel will depend on A) how far ahead/ when you book B) what prices BA offer for fares and the rooms and price the hotel are offering C) what is actually available based on demand from what they are offering.
#94
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There are still Pilots retiring that need to be replaced. This is also not happening.
#96
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As has been mentioned upthread if/when things normalise there might be not enough pilots current to fly the routes that BA need and there’s only so much sim training that can be done.
#98
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Nothing new here. Each airline will have its own business plan, objectives, strategy and tactics. The ‘great offers’ from EasyJet are their tactics to implement their strategy and meet their objectives.
#99
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Well quite, I’m not getting involved in the argument. I just wanted to show in reality one airline is acting how the OP had thought they ought to.
#100
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The fact that easyJet calls them "great offers" doesn't necessarily mean that they are. How do these offers compare with similar offers at this time last year, or the fares available two months ago?
#101
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I get "sale" emails from EK/QR every few weeks. There are generally no changes to the normal pricing.
#102
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Qatar tirelessly messages me about its special offer fares, and their final days: they now go straight to junk.
#104
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The simulators are primarily used for Licence renewal and re-training. As pilots go out of recency and line check there is insufficient simulator capacity to keep everybody able to line fly. This will require a huge task once this shutdown is finished and will require months not weeks to get everybody back on line.
There are still Pilots retiring that need to be replaced. This is also not happening.
There are still Pilots retiring that need to be replaced. This is also not happening.
#105
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Isn't this about changes which require you to pay the fare difference, even if no change fee. If only full fare is available that's extra cash and if you don't change or forget to use your voucher, then that's extra cash too?