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Old Feb 28, 2020, 9:30 am
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WikiPost currently includes info on China inc Hong Kong, Singapore and Italy. As and when new/updated information becomes available, we would welcome your input in updating it.
Information resources (e.g. links of entry restrictions/quarantine requirements) are provided at the bottom of Wiki.


29 Feb 2020: List of routes with cancellations from 13 March to 28 March: PKX, PVG, HKG, SIN, LIN, ICN, VRN, BGY, BLQ, TRN, VCE.
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In the case of PKX and PVG there are no services, for the other locations it's up to 50% of services.)

BA Book with Confidence Policy
BA have instigated a policy of bookings made on or after 3 March 2020 with zero change fees. Initially this policy will expire end of 31 16 March 2020. Details can be found in this thread: https://www.flyertalk.com/forum/brit...ce-policy.html
Note.. despite the official start date of 3 March for this policy, at least one FT-er has advised that a booking on 2 March also attracted zero change fees.
BA has now expanded the book with confidence policy to expire 31 March 2020. Starting date of 3 March 2020 is unchanged.
China inc HKG
BA have cancelled all flights to PKX (Beijing/Peking) and PVG (Shanghai Pu Dong) "until 19 April 2020".

BA frequency to HKG has been reduced with effect from 13 February 2020 - see below for further details. From HKG, Cathay is running a heavily reduced schedule to mainland destinations until the end of March.

If you are due to fly to PKX, PVG and your flight is cancelled then you have refund, re-route and rebook options. BA can rebook on to several other airlines.
If you are due to fly to Hong Kong until 1st April you have refund and rebook options.
If you are transiting into mainland China you are also covered as above.
If you are transiting internationally (e.g. LHR-HKG-SYD) you are not able to move your flights, unless they are cancelled anyway.
The latest ba.com update was on 21 February 2020 at 1510.

More information on the advice of Her Majesty's Government about travel and health is on the Foreign and Commonwealth Office website.
https://www.gov.uk/foreign-travel-advice/china

For the Special Administration Regions of Hong Kong and Macao:
https://www.gov.uk/foreign-travel-advice/hong-kong
https://www.gov.uk/foreign-travel-advice/macao

Summary from IATA of all travel restrictions due to Coronavirus as added to TIMATIC https://www.iatatravelcentre.com/int...1580226297.htm


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HKG frequency reductions (as of 1330 on 21 February 2020, all dates inclusive).

LHR-HKG

From Thu 13.02.2020 to Mon 01.06.2020: BA31 cancelled. BA27 operates (380).

Exceptions:-
  • Tue 18.02.2020: BA27 cancelled. BA31 operates (777).
  • Tue 10.03.2020: BA27 cancelled. BA31 operates (777).
  • Mon 27.04.2020: BA27 cancelled. BA31 operates (380).
  • Tue 28.04.2020: BA27 cancelled. BA31 operates (380).
  • Wed 29.04.2020: BA27 cancelled. BA31 operates (380).
  • Thu 30.04.2020: BA27 cancelled. BA31 operates (380).
  • Mon 11.05.2020: BA27 cancelled. BA31 operates (380).
  • Tue 12.05.2020: BA27 cancelled. BA31 operates (380).
  • Mon 18.05.2020: BA27 cancelled. BA31 operates (380).
  • Tue 19.05.2020: BA27 cancelled. BA31 operates (380).
  • Sun 24.05.2020: BA27 cancelled. BA31 operates (380).
  • Mon 25.05.2020: BA27 cancelled. BA31 operates (380).
  • Tue 26.05.2020: BA27 cancelled. BA31 operates (380).
  • Mon 01.06.2020: BA31 cancelled. BA27 operates (777).
In addition, on Mon 08.06.2020: BA31 cancelled. BA27 operates (777).

HKG-LHR

From Fri 14.02.2020 to Tue 02.06.2020: BA32 cancelled. BA28 operates (380).

Exceptions:-
  • Wed 19.02.2020: BA28 cancelled. BA32 operates (777).
  • Wed 11.03.2020: BA28 cancelled. BA32 operates (777).
  • Sun 29.03.2020: BA28 cancelled. BA32 operates (380).
  • Tue 28.04.2020: BA28 cancelled. BA32 operates (380).
  • Wed 29.04.2020: BA28 cancelled. BA32 operates (380).
  • Thu 30.04.2020: BA28 cancelled. BA32 operates (380).
  • Fri 01.05.2020: BA28 cancelled. BA32 operates (380).
  • Tue 12.05.2020: BA28 cancelled. BA32 operates (380).
  • Wed 13.05.2020: BA28 cancelled. BA32 operates (380).
  • Tue 19.05.2020: BA28 cancelled. BA32 operates (380).
  • Wed 20.05.2020: BA28 cancelled. BA32 operates (380).
  • Mon 25.05.2020: BA28 cancelled. BA32 operates (380).
  • Tue 26.05.2020: BA28 cancelled. BA32 operates (380).
  • Wed 27.05.2020: BA28 cancelled. BA32 operates (380).
  • Tue 02.06.2020: BA32 cancelled. BA28 operates (777).
In addition, on Tue 09.06.2020: BA32 cancelled. BA28 operates (777).

Note: Schedule changes take effect on Sun 29.03.2020 in both directions.

Italy
BA has issued a Customer Guideline Update 1 for travel to the north of Italy, defined as:
LIN/MXP – Milan
TRN – Turin
BLQ – Bologna
VCE – Venice
BGY – Bergamo
VRN - Verona

Tickets issued by 24 February can be changed. If they are dated for original travel on 25 February – 02 March 2020, they can now be moved to 25 February – 31 March 2020. Alternatively changed to ZRH or GVA (note some of these services will be running very full at this time of the year). Refunds not allowed, redemptions are in scope for change.
Update: Travelling 29 Feb to 15 March can now change date of travel and postpone to up to the 3 Apr or change airport to Geneva or Zurich. Rredemptions included but refunds still not included

Further details:
Key Message
The following guidelines have been published to assist any customer who may wish to change their travel date for Northern Italy.
Advice for British Airways-125 ticketed customers whose BA, IB, AY or AA flight is still OPERATING

Rebook onto: British Airways or AJB

Airports affected - To/From
LIN/MXP – Milan
TRN – Turin
BLQ – Bologna
VCE – Venice
BGY – Bergamo
VRN - Verona

Tickets issued by: 24 February 2020
Ticket travel dates: 25 February – 02 March 2020
New travel dates: 25 February – 31 March 2020

Rebooking Allowance: Rebook into the same class as the original flight or lowest available in the same cabin

Change of gateway: Rebook onto a British Airways operated service to/from ZRH (Zurich) or GVA (Geneva) and London (any airport) into the same class as the original flight or lowest available in the same cabin. Must advise the customer that any consequential cost to travel between the original and the new Swiss gateway, e.g. surface transport, hotels, etc. are at their expense. Add a remark into the booking stating that you have advised this. Visas may also need to be checked to travel into Switzerland.

Origin/Destination/Stopover changes: Yes – as above
Refunds Allowed: No
Redemptions included: Yes
Available for Trade: Yes

Important Information
One involuntary ticket change allowed from the above options
Includes any connecting BA/Joint Business services on the same ticket
For customers on cancelled flights, please follow the standard customer guidelines >
· Adherence to commercial policies/standard customer guidelines remains entirely the responsibility of the user. BA reserves the right to withdraw guidelines at any time
Singapore
BA11 has been cancelled on March 15, 17, 19, 21, 23 and 25, and corresponding returns on BA12 (the next day) have been cancelled.

Information Resources
Travel restrictions by country
IATA's central list of restrictions relating to Covid-19 is here:
https://www.iatatravelcentre.com/int...1580226297.htm

Australian government site for visit/transit restrictions for various countries after visiting certain countries (not just for Australians, as it lists countries visited/transited etc.). It includes information that is missing from IATA list too.
https://www.smartraveller.gov.au/

11 March 2020:
For people who are based in the US, the US CDC travel warning for Schengen zone has been updated to Level 3 "Avoid nonessential travel".
https://wwwnc.cdc.gov/travel/notices...navirus-europe

In addition, US Department of State have updated the global travel advisory to Level 3 "Reconsider Travel.
https://travel.state.gov/content/tra...ory-issue.html

This may affect your travel insurance cover (or enable you to claim back the cost of cancellation).






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Old Mar 7, 2020, 1:35 pm
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The 80/20 rule will have to be axed soon if the list of banned destinations increases. BA won’t have anywhere else to fly to apart from starting ghost flights to Cardiff.
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Old Mar 7, 2020, 1:40 pm
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Originally Posted by 13901
The Italian government is going to consider the entirety of Lombardy and another 11 provinces as “red zone” and will close them down to outside access. I imagine it’ll mean the end of flights to and from MXP and LIN.
if that’s actually true I’d be hightailing it to mxp and getting out of there or driving to Rome ASAP !
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Old Mar 7, 2020, 2:33 pm
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Originally Posted by 13901
The Italian government is going to consider the entirety of Lombardy and another 11 provinces as “red zone” and will close them down to outside access. I imagine it’ll mean the end of flights to and from MXP and LIN.
and possibly BA’s LGW-BGY flight.
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Old Mar 7, 2020, 3:00 pm
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Originally Posted by mnhusker
Options
A: With the sales going on due to reduced demand for air travel, look at buying a ticket from JFK-LHR on the date you need from AA, BA or even Virgin.
B: Don’t go, stay home. With the number of Covid 19 cases increasing in NYC, your chances of getting quarantined on return to LHR go up daily.

All the best.
Thanks for your and others' replies. The portion I would like to change is LHR - JFK which is the return portion. Would love to cancel but have to do this trip for family reasons but still hope to shorten my stay. Also thanks for your reply C-W-S. I'm going to try to see if I can change for a fee, looking at Expert Flyer, F is half empty on earlier flights. Will try to do this in person at the airport on Monday (my outbound flight). I'm travelling with extra meds and clothing in case I get quarantined together with a supply of hand sanitizer and wipes and if I can't change will do all I can to minimize exposure.
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Old Mar 7, 2020, 3:14 pm
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Rumours MXP and LIN to close tonight UFN
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Old Mar 7, 2020, 3:23 pm
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La Corriere della Sera newspaper has posted on its website a map showing the three 'red zones'. Of the two smaller zones, one covers Venice so presumably VCE will also close, and the other one covers Rimini.
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Old Mar 7, 2020, 4:47 pm
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Originally Posted by BAeuro
The 80/20 rule will have to be axed soon if the list of banned destinations increases. BA won’t have anywhere else to fly to apart from starting ghost flights to Cardiff.
The rule has already been relaxed for flights that are not able to operate, so if MXP and LIN close then they will be off the hook for those slots (similar to PEK and PVG, which are also permitted because of FCO advice not to travel). What is not currently relaxed is reduction of operations for commercial reasons - and this is a much harder one to call, I’m genuinely on the fence whether it’s the right thing to do or not.
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Old Mar 7, 2020, 4:57 pm
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Originally Posted by BAeuro
The 80/20 rule will have to be axed soon if the list of banned destinations increases. BA won’t have anywhere else to fly to apart from starting ghost flights to Cardiff.
In terms of keeping slots live is it direct flights only or could they do something like LHR to ARN via MAN or even LHR to GLS or EDI with a stop in MAN for example bit like some of the US domestic flights. Obviously the original problem of demand is still an issue but in principle, if they could do LHR to Scotland via MAN they may pick up some FlyBe regulars on way through MAN?
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Old Mar 7, 2020, 6:08 pm
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Originally Posted by ahmetdouas
if that’s actually true I’d be hightailing it to mxp and getting out of there or driving to Rome ASAP !
It’s true. At the moment it’s a proposed law (disegno di legge) and is being reported on the BBC too. Below news in Italian.

https://www.repubblica.it/cronaca/20...ce_-250570150/
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Old Mar 8, 2020, 12:09 am
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BA don’t appear to have cancelled their flights to this region yet this morning
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Old Mar 8, 2020, 12:48 am
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There is a statement on the Malpensa website saying that despite today's new restrictions, MXP and LIN are operating normally.
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Old Mar 8, 2020, 1:16 am
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Having read the text of the law, it appears they want to limit - not stop - movement to only those trips that are to be considered 'necessary' and important. How do you judge that, how that is enforced, don't know. I think the main aim of the new law is to block public activities where there's mass congregation of attendees and reduce the number of people in the streets.
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Old Mar 8, 2020, 1:56 am
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Originally Posted by 13901
Having read the text of the law, it appears they want to limit - not stop - movement to only those trips that are to be considered 'necessary' and important. How do you judge that, how that is enforced, don't know. I think the main aim of the new law is to block public activities where there's mass congregation of attendees and reduce the number of people in the streets.
I read it too, and the first point about movement is not really clear, or precise enough. We will have to wait a couple of days to see how that text is put into practice and what they will add/change regarding mass transit.
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Old Mar 8, 2020, 4:00 am
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It appears that train travel out of Milan is still ongoing. SBB is still currently running trains to Milano Centrale.
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Old Mar 8, 2020, 4:19 am
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Originally Posted by greg5
It appears that train travel out of Milan is still ongoing. SBB is still currently running trains to Milano Centrale.
Thanks for this. I’m not currently meant to be back to CH for a week or so, but I need to head to Milan from Zurich HB soon after and will be using the train. Good to hear the Swiss haven’t succumbed to the mass panic (yet).
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