golfmad

Mainly through exercising some common sense. Here are some examples:

• Logo'd pen in a hotel: Yes
• Dressing gown in a hotel: No
• F Pajamas on BA flight: Yes
• Silverware or other reusable items on BA flight (topic of this thread): Absolutely not

OUTraveling

I believe things like salt and pepper shakers as well as coffee cups are designed to be taken. In fact, I took the Virgin coffee cup when I asked the FA if I could buy one and she offered to get me a clean one for free.

Things like coffee cups and shakers, especially in premium cabins, cost an airline pennies vs. the thousands we spend with them. Bringing a cute airplane shaped salt shaker or a mug to the office is a conversation piece as well as serving as free advertising. Even at home the airline probably reasons that you using the mug keeps their brand in the back of your mind.

An excerpt from Richard Branson:

Link:
https://www.thedrum.com/news/2018/03...rtising-weapon

orbitmic

But that's the thing. To me, none of the above is "common sense" even in cases where I would personally reach the same conclusion as you when it comes to my own behaviour. F pyjamas are completely reuseable and so are the pens, why would it be common sense that you can keep those plane pyjamas that could perfectly be washed and offered to the next guests and not the blankets which can perfectly be washed and offered to the next guest are even typically cheaper to produce? Why is it is common sense that it is a complete no-no to keep hotel pyjamas when you travel to Japan but not on JL F? Or again, as I mentioned earlier, why is it common sense that you can keep your pyjamas on JL F but not your travel cardigan on JL J?

As for bathrobes in hotels, I fully agree with you that it is a "no" but not because of common sense, rather because hotels invariably leave little notes saying things along the lines of "please, enjoy this bathrobe during your stay. If you wish to take it home, please visit our souvenir shop where they are on sale" or some similar wording. Similarly, why is it common sense that one cannot keep the little plastic ramequins that airlines use on many Y meals (or again for CE desserts) and which BA pays less than £0.10 for, but can keep the earphones that they hand out in WT and could very easily clean and use again (indeed, some airlines do it).

Ultimately, common sense is precisely judged by the fact that an immense majority of people would make the same guess as to what is or is not acceptable. In this particular case, the sheer number of people on this thread reporting to keeping airline crockery or salt and pepper shakers suggests that it is perhaps not quite as "commonly" sensed as you suggest...

smith80678

Alot of times if you just ask, they will give it to you. I once asked this FA is I could have a pair of her underwear and she said "ok".

OUTraveling

Thief. The morally correct action is to buy the used underwear from a vending machine.

Momentum57

You could be probably are over packing

Oh the whimsical life of your barely known acquaintances

Statusless Person

Maybe Now She Had Five.

golfmad

Common sense is subjective and comes down to a test of reasonableness. Different people will probably make slightly different choices regarding minutae (pens in hotels) but most will probably agree about the important stuff (reusable items from airlines*).

*I exclude BA F pajamas from this list.

Momentum57

At least you ask! It would be more than a larceny if you just took her underwear


Virgin Atlantic discontinued Orville and Wilbur their cute salt and pepper shakers. Just because the airline will let you get away with it doesn't mean we need to take advantage. Same goes for hotels, we all assume every hotel room no matter how posh or nice is covered in bodily fluid. Just a wide awake nightmare of a CSI episode meets the Real World season 29. Now we can all add to that or we not wipe off on the curtains. As much as I could deal with a vinyl wrapped latex luxury hotel I think we have to have some restraint. Thats what I would think of the various stolen mugs, spoons, ear phones... This guy wipes it on the the rugs and curtains.



I think its an entitlement thing less so than common sense. My mother took earphones that had the two prong connector. How the hell could we use them? My mother felt we were entitled to have a deck of cards for the flight for each seat. She took that to mean we should get a new deck each flight for each seat. Like I said we never played cards on the trips. There was a deck that had been used but dozens upon dozens of unopened decks. Both bathrooms had boxes of lotions and shampoos and more in the closets too. Just like the Virgin Atlantic Orville and Wilbur salt and pepper shaker and playing cards before that there will come a time that after all the small thefts it add up to discontinuing the niceties. I guess if you feel entitled to take something take it. But dont be surprised at tearing open little paper packets for salt and pepper in the future.

orbitmic

(emphasis mine) But that is precisely my point. Why are you excluding airline pyjamas from the list? What is the common sense logic behind it? Or why for that matter are you presumably excluding Y headsets which are also reusable?

And while this is only a guess on my part, I would tend to intuitively disagree that hotel pens are a borderline case if we go by majority balance and suspect that the vast majority of people who stay in hotels would consider that it is actually acceptable to take the pens hotels leave in their room. By contrast, I suspect that airline blankets or crockery would likely split opinion more.

orbitmic

OT but since you mention it, I must say that I really do miss those airline decks of playing cards! I spent many a childhood flight playing a game of patience on my plane tray table and no electronic game comes anywhere near. For some reason, decks of playing cards always have a very unique smell which I still love and I do think that they make for lovely presents and collectibles! OT hat off

An unfortunately example on this particular forum. When they started the new CW food concept, BA finally briefly introduced salt and pepper shakers instead of their hideous sachets. Sadly, they discontinued it almost immediately, not because people were "nicking" them but rather because the airline considered it an unnecessary expense to collect, sort and refill them.

Bohinjska Bistrica

Nicking things seems like it will inevitably lead to them being 'enhanced'. If paying for Premium classes of travel, I really don't fancy eating my meal with a plastic knife and fork or drinking out a disposable plastic cup - really would cheapen the experience.

Naturally if they are made available to you (e.g. in the same way hotel toiletries are) then it's fair game.

I'd never dream of taking a glass off an aircraft. I will however admit to nicking a pint glass from a pub in my younger days; an act from which comeuppance was dealt swiftly as I dropped and smashed it after stumbling on a broken bit of pavement. Lesson learned.

Qatar Airways

I have been collecting airline memorabilia for years.
From trade shows and fairs to over stock and discontinued/surplus from the charities that British airways off load their old branding items too.
Huge amounts of product is also dumped in the trash every year by the airlines.

There are many sources to access these items,not just Ebay.
And certainly not just slipping a tea spoon or cup in your bag.

Vintage glassware

First class British airways


BA First class

The very last flown Concorde Menu

Inhouse Magagine Gourmet Gossip is a collectable.

BCAL a classic favourite for ex crew and the general punlic holds very fond memories.


Demand is huge for the very latest and vintage items and everything in-between.

The BA heritage centre sells surplus items they receive.

British Airways First

Virgin Atlantic Upper class

Virgin Atlantic Upper class 90s

virgin Atlantic Upper class 2000's

Virgin Atlantic 90s Moon and star design

British airways late 80s

British airways 2000s

Phillipine airlines Business class

Worcester

Moral of this thread seems to be that if anyone from FT comes to visit lock away the silver.

HIDDY

They're only interested in Gold.