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Old Dec 1, 2019, 3:53 pm
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New Routes:
London Heathrow - Bodrum
London Heathrow - Dalaman
London Heathrow - Newquay
London Heathrow - Perugia
London Heathrow - Podgorica
London Heathrow - Pristina
London Heathrow - Rhodes

London Gatwick - Antalya
London Gatwick - Corfu

London City - San Sebastian

Glasgow - Palma


Cancelled Routes:
London Heathrow - Nantes

London Gatwick - Gibraltar
London Gatwick - Limoges

London City - Granada

Dublin - Manchester

Changes to BA London Heathrow long haul operations
(updated 20 Dec 2019)

Atlanta from 29MAR20 25FEB20: 787-10 replaces 777-200ER

Bangkok from 30JUN20: 787-9 replaces 777-200ER, 1 daily (Selected dates in October 2020 operated by 787-8)

Beijing Daxing: 777-200ER replaces -300ER on following dates: 01SEP20 / 27SEP20 / 11OCT20 / 18OCT20

Boston from 29MAR20: BA215/214 mostly operated by 777-200ER (including new 4-class configuration) and 787-8, instead of 777-200ER/787-8/787-9

Buenos Aires from 07APR20 to 25MAY20: Service reduces from 7 to 6 weekly (5 weekly for week of 28APR20, 6 weekly 07OCT20 – 21OCT20)

Calgary: Service operates until 03OCT20 for summer 2020 season. 787-8/-9 operating

Chennai from 04APR20: 1 of 7 weekly operated by 787-9, replacing -8

Dallas Fort Worth from 01MAY20: 787-10 replaces 777-200ER

Delhi
  • from 29MAR20 to 31AUG20: BA143/142 747-400 replaces 777-200ER (No changes)
  • from 09SEP20: BA143/142 3-class 777-200ER replaces 4-class aircraft
Doha: 787-8 replaces -9 during following:
  • from 20MAY20 to 23MAY20 Wed and Sat
  • from 09OCT20 to 23OCT20: Wed and Fri
Dubai from 29MAR20: BA109/108 currently listed as 3-class 777-200ER service

Hong Kong: Temporary service reduction from 14 to 12-13 weekly, pending on operational period:
  • BA031/032 01JUN20 to 14JUN20: Reduce from 7 to 6 weekly, A380 operating
    BA027/028
  • from 11MAY20 to 26MAY20: Reduce from 7 to 5 weekly
  • from 17AUG20 to 30AUG20: Reduce from 7 to 5 weekly
Houston from 29MAR20: Additional operational aircraft changes
  • BA195/194 747-400 replaced by 777-200ER / 787-9
    from 29MAR20 to 03AUG20: 777-200ER
    from 05AUG20 to 24OCT20 787-9 (Selected dates operated by 777-200ER: 12SEP20 / 13SEP20 / 20SEP20 / 21SEP20)
  • BA197/196 777-200ER/787-9 operating
    from 29MAR20 to 30MAY20: 787-9
    from 31MAY20 to 24OCT20: 777-200ER (787-9 19OCT20 – 21OCT20)
Hyderabad from 29MAR20: 4-5 of 7 weekly operated by 787-9, replacing -8

Los Angeles from 31MAY20 to 26JUN20: BA283/282 A380 replaces 747-400

Miami from 29MAR20: Reduce from 3 to 2 daily, BA211/210 cancelled

Mumbai from 29MAR20: Planned service reduction from 21 to 19 weekly. Latest aircraft adjustment for BA135/134 as follows:
  • from 29MAR20 to 04AUG20: 787-9 (Following scheduled with 787-8: 04APR20 / 11APR20 / 30JUN20 / 01JUL20 / 21JUL20 – 26JUL20, Day x14)
  • from 05AUG20 to 24OCT20: 777-200ER (Following scheduled with 787-9: 01SEP20 / 02SEP20 / 13SEP20 – 23SEP20 Day x14 / 04OCT20 – 24OCT20 Day x14)
  • BA139/138 from 29MAR20: 747-400 replaces 777-200ER
  • BA199/198 from 31MAY20 – 26JUN20: 747-400 replaces 777-200ER
Muscat Service operates from 01APR20 to 18APR20 for summer season

Nassau/Grand Cayman from 31MAR20: Increase from 4 to 5 weekly, 777-200ER operating (Except September)

Newark from 29MAR20: BA189/188 Day 7 operated by 3-class 777-200ER, instead of 4-class aircraft

New Orleans from 31MAR20: Increase from 5 to 6 weekly, new flight operates on Tuesdays (Except 12AUG20 – 01SEP20. Selected Tuesdays operated by 787-9, instead of -8)

New York JFK: 4-class 777-300ER (F8J76W40Y130) set to enter operation in 2020 Q3
  • BA175/116: 05SEP20 / 03OCT20 / 10OCT20 / 19OCT20 – 24OCT20
  • BA173/112: 01AUG20 – 24OCT20
  • BA115/176: 02SEP20 – 23OCT20 (Day x6)
  • BA113/114: 16OCT20 / 17OCT20
  • from 04APR20: BA115/176 cancelled on Saturdays (Overall service reduced from 56 to 55 weekly)
Philadelphia from 29MAR20: aircraft changes
  • BA067/066: A350-1000XWB replaces 747-400
  • BA069/068: 4-class 777-200ER continues to operate 3 weekly, instead of 1 weekly 787-9 and 2 weekly 777-200ER
Phoenix from 29MAR20: 747-400 continues to operate during summer season. Planned 777-300ER service revised to 25APR20 – 22JUN20, 30JUN20 – 24AUG20, 17OCT20 – 24OCT20

Riyadh from 24APR20 to 16MAY20: 777-200ER replaces 747-400

San Diego from 29MAR20: 747-400 continues operating in summer season, replacing 777-300ER in S19

San Jose CA from 29MAR20: 747-400 replaces 787-9, 1 daily

Seattle: BA049/048 747-400 replaced by following aircraft:
  • 29MAR20 – 30JUN20 4-class 777-200ER
  • 01JUL20 – 24OCT20 787-10
Seoul Incheon from 01SEP20: 787-9 replaces -8, First Class cabin not available for sale

Shanghai Pu Dong: Selected flights operated by 3-class 777-200ER, instead of 4-class aircraft

Singapore from 18MAY20 to 07JUN20: BA011/012 Reduces from 7 to 6 weekly, A380 operating

Tel Aviv from 29MAR20: BA167/166 currently listed as 3-class 777-200ER service

Tokyo Narita from 01JUL20: A350-1000XWB replaces 787-9 (Except Day 4 from LHR, Day 5 from NRT operated by 3-class 777-200ER.

Washington Dulles from 29MAR20: BA293/292 A350-1000XWB replaces 3-class 777-200ER
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Old Jan 18, 2020, 12:45 am
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Originally Posted by Cw novice
I would imagine that this is due to the ongoing engine issues with the 788.
Originally Posted by corporate-wage-slave
[...] I doubt they want to run 787-9 to Seoul, it's more a case of whatever equipment they would have available given the Trent issue has been running for over 2 years now
Thank you both. I knew I wouldn't have to wait long for enlightenment.

I didn't have a problem understanding why BA wouldn't offer F, but hadn't realised that the RR engine problems are still an issue. I know that it's been quite big news at various points, but the details never quite made my radar.

I was further confused by the fact that rewardflightfinder.com is returning (phantom) BA F award availability to SEL in late October and November 2020. That made me wonder if F might be in the pipeline for this route.

More background on the Trent 1000 saga:

Cancellation of 787 services - Q4 2017 / Q1 2018 - Rolls Royce engine issue
789 disruption
787 issues all fixed?
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Old Jan 19, 2020, 4:51 am
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Sneaking into W20/21 but BA A380 scheduled LHR/LAS for a few dates to coincided with tech expo CES JAN 21. Will be nice to see it at LAS. Im guessing might be a good atmosphere on those services.
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Old Jan 19, 2020, 6:16 am
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I was further confused by the fact that rewardflightfinder.com is returning (phantom) BA F award availability to SEL in late October and November 2020. That made me wonder if F might be in the pipeline for this route.
I have also found AA.com showing BA reward availability in F on the BKK route. Not sure exactly what's causing it but must be an error of some sort.
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Old Jan 19, 2020, 12:04 pm
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Sneaking into W20/21 but BA A380 scheduled LHR/LAS for a few dates to coincided with tech expo CES JAN 21. Will be nice to see it at LAS. Im guessing might be a good atmosphere on those services.
I wish the A380 appeared more often, or at least a newer aircraft than the 747s which are usually seen on the route (especially as VS now fly from LHR on a 787).
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Old Jan 19, 2020, 10:23 pm
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Do you all think updates are over for summer 2020. I have a feeling we may still see some changes to LGW SH. What do you think?
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Old Jan 20, 2020, 8:52 am
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These are the already announced changes for LGW fo S20. No idea if there are more to come.

LONDON GATWICK


NEW ROUTES
Antalya (AYT) - new summer route operating 6 services per week (Monday, Wednesday, Thursday, Friday, Saturday, and Sunday ) starting 30 April 2020


FREQUENCY INCREASES
Dubrovnik (DBV), Bari (BRI), Palma de Mallorca (PMI), Paphos (PFO), Thessaloniki (SKG) and Kos (KGS)
Saint Lucia (UVF) - increase in frequency by 2 flights per week between 4 July 2020 - 29 August 2020
Dubrovnik (DBV) - increase in frequency from 12 flights to 14 flights per week
Bari (BRI) - increase in frequency from 6 flights to 7 flights per week
Palma (PMI) - increase in frequency from 10 flights to 11 flights per week
Paphos (PFO) - increase in frequency from 6 flights to 7 flights per week
Thessaloniki (SKG) - increase in frequency from 8 flights to 9 flights per week
Kos (KGS) - increase in frequency from 3 flights to 4 flights per week

FREQUENCY DECREASES
Alicante (ALC), Bordeaux (BOD), Almeria (LEI), Verona (VRN), Malaga (AGP) and Nice (NCE)
Orlando (MCO) - decreased frequency by 1 per week for July and August 2020
Las Vegas (LAS) - decreased frequency by 1 per week for July and August 2020
Alicante (ALC) - decrease in frequency from 23 flights to 17 flights per week
Almeria (LEI_ - decrease in frequency from 4 flights to 3 flights per week
Bordeaux (BOD) - decrease in frequency from 10 flights to 9 flights per week
Verona (VRN) - decrease in frequency from 14 flights to 12 flights per week
Malaga (AGP) - decrease in frequency from 34 flights to 30 flights per week
Nice (NCE) - decrease in frequency from 18 flights to 16 flights per week


SUSPENSIONS
Limoges (LIG - France) – 4 flights per suspended from 22 May 2020
Gibraltar (GIB) - 6 flights per week suspended from 30 April 2020. Gibraltar will continue from Heathrow at 14 frequencies per week
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Old Feb 19, 2020, 8:53 am
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It seems the new LGW-CFU route will increase to 3x weekly during July and August. It remains 2x weekly the rest of the summer season.
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Old Feb 20, 2020, 1:14 pm
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Some small frequency increases for the spring.

Looks like the usual Avios availability there for Seattle too. But also some First availability (at least on SeatSpy).

https://mediacentre.britishairways.c...12110?ref=News

Cape Town will increase by three services a week From March 30 until April 19

Seattle will increase by a daily service from May 1 until May 31

Miami will increase by a daily service from April 1 until May 31
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Old Feb 20, 2020, 2:43 pm
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That new MIA-LHR is quite horrid! 15:10-04:50...

LHR-MIA departs at 18:40... looks like it's the HKG slot (that HKG rotation resumes on 1 June).
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Old Feb 20, 2020, 3:51 pm
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Seattle is a new BA46/47.

Tues, Weds, Fri, Sun it leaves London at 1335. The other days at 1630. Return times are 2205 and 2315, giving afternoon arrivals back in London.

Looks like they are using a 4 class 777.
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Old Feb 20, 2020, 4:06 pm
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Originally Posted by BA6501
That new MIA-LHR is quite horrid! 15:10-04:50...

LHR-MIA departs at 18:40... looks like it's the HKG slot (that HKG rotation resumes on 1 June).
Thanks for the alert about this. The new flights aren't (yet) fully on sale - F, J, W, Y and B only at the moment, on a quick skim through some random dates. So it looks like BA may still be hedging its bets for HKG. I will try to remember to update the HKG thread tomorrow.

I haven't traced it through, but I suspect the new SEA uses PKX and/or PVG slots.
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Old Feb 21, 2020, 2:42 am
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Originally Posted by BA6501
That new MIA-LHR is quite horrid! 15:10-04:50...

LHR-MIA departs at 18:40... looks like it's the HKG slot (that HKG rotation resumes on 1 June).
It must vary by day because the LHR-MIA I booked yesterday when they released Avios availability is at 16.30 (a Thurs) - and that's the last MIA flight of the day.
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Old Feb 21, 2020, 3:04 am
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It must vary by day because the LHR-MIA I booked yesterday when they released Avios availability is at 16.30 (a Thurs) - and that's the last MIA flight of the day.
It looks like April is being run on one basis and May on another. Maybe MIA is using PKX and/or PVG slots in April, and HKG slots in May.
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Old Feb 21, 2020, 3:35 am
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Seems that SIN has lost the A380 for dates in April.
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Old Feb 21, 2020, 3:59 am
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From the Wiki:

Seoul Incheon from 01SEP20: 787-9 replaces -8, First Class cabin not available for sale
It's a bit more nuanced than that. The schedule currently has it regularly flipping between 787-9 and 787-8 from September 4.
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