THEOBCMAN

Yes correct. But BKK is in desperate need of upgrade as discussed at length on FT !

rapidex

BKK will be the last place to get an A350.

t_cliff

For the business class seat, it seems the knees are now right under the tray table. Another coffin like design with no room for movement during sleep. My knees would not like this seat.

SHT88T

MNMAA

Looking at the seat map further back in this thread, it seems the A/B and J/K seats are slightly forward of the D-G middle seats on the same row.
That's the case in both WTP and the smaller WT cabin just behind.
So I think the optical illusion is a combination of the staggered seating and the wide-angle photography.

13901

Having seen the seat map - inclusive of galleys and toilets - I've to say that I'm deeply disappointed. I mean, it's not as if it wasn't going to be anything but what it turned out to be, but I still had some hope.

Basically there's no separate toilets for WT+ customers; they'll have to share them with those in Travellers, for a grand total of 6 bogs for 260 passengers; Club has two or three. There's no cross-galley mid-cabin; unlike most reputable airlines, BA has gone for a configuration with only two galleys, one up top and the other down at the very back. I'm sure that it'll cause joy to no end to those who press a call button in the first row of WT+... And the galleys, compared to those of other airlines, seem to be on the tiny side.

From a "public amenities" point of view, then, BA's A350 feels more French Bee (which I admit has the 359, but hear me out) than Cathay Pacific.

pqvst

I believe that's pretty standard that Premium Economy and Economy share the same toilets. I don't think I've ever been on a plane where Premium Economy have their own toilets...

According to the seat map, there's only one toilet in Club :O I really doubt that's the case though.

I'm *guessing* there's a galley between Club and WT+ even though this isn't shown on the seat map.

pqvst

Also, I couldn't actually find the combined seat map from BAs website anywhere, so here it is for anyone else that's interested. (Sorry for the double post, but I needed 1 more post to be able to upload images).

rockflyertalk

KARFA

opus99

G-XWBA (BA A350) First Flight Tomorrow!

13901

Mid-J 747s have a toilet in the WT cabin, and both 380 and 747 super Hi-Js have a toilet aft of the cabin; the 350 doesn't.

The seat map you're referring to is the one on the website; the one I'm talking about is for internal use and has been shared to crews. It clearly shows that Club has 3 toilets (one in the front, 2 at doors 2 where there's also the "Club kitchen" but, crucially, no galley (the map has G for Galley, T for toilet, CK for Club Kitchen). There are bulkheads between Club and WT+, and between WT+ and WT, but no ad-hoc toilets or Galleys. There are 4 toilets at doors 3 and, again, no galley. As far as I can see, additionally, there's no direct passageway from aisle to aisle in that part of the cabin - unless one wants to squeeze between the passengers in the bulkhead position and the toilets themselves. Finally there's a galley at the very end of the plane, at doors 4, with two toilets. That galley also seems to be on the tiny side, for there is an extra row of 2 seats on the left-hand side (row BC) whilst on the right-hand side there's a galley compartment, thus making the galley asymmetrical. It really feels as if they've tried to go for the smallest possible space that isn't to be filled with seats, which is a shame.

edit: thanks to KARFA AND TCX69 for having posted this one, that I couldn't somehow upload on Flickr.

As you can see, this is a layout made with one idea in mind: maximising the number of seats on board. Period. There's very little in terms of provisions to make life easier for the crew, or for passengers to move about and to go from the left hand corridor to the right hand one. In fact I'd say that, if for whatever reason one was wanting to go from 20B to 20J, he or she would either have to wriggle into Club and use the Club Kitchen area, or he/she would have to schlep it all the way down. Also, I feel for those who'll get 59BC...

corporate-wage-slave

Featured in July's Highlife Magazine, I can't spot any new facts in it though:

Deltus

Any hints on what the "Club Kitchen" area consists of? It seems to take up a lot of real estate for what I understood to be a tray of Mars bars and a few cans of coke. If it has kettles, fridges, trolley space etc then it could be where the WT+ drinks are served from, reducing the workload for the galley at the back.

But yes, it does look like they've squeezed in a lot of seats, particularly that pair right at the back.

YacozA

Is the layout of 59 B&C accurate in this diagram?
Thought a selling feature of the A350 was constant fuselage width door 1 to door 4?