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Old Jan 11, 2019, 12:29 am
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Current methods to check fare/booking class availability:
If you are requesting flight load / class availability, please provide the following:
1. Actual travel date (don't say tomorrow, or similar, as that is ambiguous given the global flyertalk membership)
2. Departure and arrival airport codes
3. Flight number
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Old Dec 29, 2021, 10:08 am
  #1846  
 
Join Date: Nov 2017
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Originally Posted by EDIwanderer
Would someone be kind enough to check the following for me?

17/01/22 BA185 LHR-EWR
and
20/01/22 BA182 JFK-LHR

Thanks in advance.
Here you go, UK POS:

BA 185
LHR 17/01/22 10:45
EWR 17/01/22 13:55
777
M,T,W,Th,F,Sa
NA / NA
F4 A3 J9 C9 D9 R9 I0 W9 E9 T9 Y9 B9 H9 K9 M9 L9 V9 S9 N9 Q9 O0 G9



Cannot find a BA182 JFK to LHR listed on Expert Flyer for 20 Jan - Do you mean BA172?

If so, BA172:

BA 172
JFK 20/01/22 20:55
LHR 21/01/22 8:45
777
Daily
0% / 0m
F1 A0 J9 C9 D9 R9 I0 W9 E9 T8 Y9 B9 H9 K9 M9 L9 V9 S9 N9 Q9 O9 G9
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Old Dec 29, 2021, 10:12 am
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Originally Posted by BarneyMcGrew
Here you go, UK POS:

BA 185
LHR 17/01/22 10:45
EWR 17/01/22 13:55
777
M,T,W,Th,F,Sa
NA / NA
F4 A3 J9 C9 D9 R9 I0 W9 E9 T9 Y9 B9 H9 K9 M9 L9 V9 S9 N9 Q9 O0 G9




Cannot find a BA182 JFK to LHR listed on 20 Jan - Do you mean BA172?
Apologies, yes BA172 on 20/01.
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Old Dec 29, 2021, 10:22 am
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Originally Posted by EDIwanderer
Apologies, yes BA172 on 20/01.
No problem, Have posted BA172 in above response.
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Old Dec 29, 2021, 10:25 am
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Originally Posted by BarneyMcGrew
No problem, Have posted BA172 in above response.
Thanks for the speedy replies, looking like plenty of room all round!
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Old Dec 30, 2021, 3:09 pm
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Originally Posted by peter h
It doesn't look like it. BA (and ExpertFlyer) isn't showing any F availability on that flight, so there shouldn't be any reason why the rows in MMB start at 5.

It's still 4 months away though, and maybe BA are allowing for a future equipment change that could include F seating?
Thanks. It has been this way for about a month. The other interesting thing is it only shows rows 5 thru 14?
Last edited by jmj9905; Dec 30, 2021 at 3:39 pm
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Old Dec 30, 2021, 5:16 pm
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Hi,

Would someone be able to check this flight for me:

BA175
LHR-JFK
4th Jan

Thanks!
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Old Dec 30, 2021, 5:53 pm
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Originally Posted by LeonardIngle
Hi,

Would someone be able to check this flight for me:

BA175
LHR-JFK
4th Jan

Thanks!
Here you go, UK POS:

BA 175
LHR 01/04/22 9:50 AM
JFK 01/04/22 12:55 PM
777 Su,M,T,W,F,Sa 83% / 23m
F1 A0 J9 C9 D0 R0 I0 W9 E5 T0 Y9 B9 H8 K6 M5 L2 V1 S0 N0 Q0 O0 G9

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Old Dec 30, 2021, 6:07 pm
  #1853  
 
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Originally Posted by RB211
Here you go, UK POS:

BA 175
LHR 01/04/22 9:50 AM
JFK 01/04/22 12:55 PM
777 Su,M,T,W,F,Sa 83% / 23m
F1 A0 J9 C9 D0 R0 I0 W9 E5 T0 Y9 B9 H8 K6 M5 L2 V1 S0 N0 Q0 O0 G9

rb211.
Thanks for this! I'm new to this so am I correct in saying that for BA Y through G is Economy fares, and the numbers beside each letter mean the number of seats still available, therefore 49 seats are still to be sold? With it being a 777 that would mean if this remained unchanged 26% of Economy would be empty?

Thanks
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Old Dec 30, 2021, 8:14 pm
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Originally Posted by LeonardIngle
Thanks for this! I'm new to this so am I correct in saying that for BA Y through G is Economy fares, and the numbers beside each letter mean the number of seats still available, therefore 49 seats are still to be sold? With it being a 777 that would mean if this remained unchanged 26% of Economy would be empty?

Thanks
Incorrect - the number of each fare class still for sale does not mean you can add them up and get the number of free seats - it just is the number BA are willing to sell at that point in time to maximise revenue. At present the numbers for sale in each fare class does indicate a quiet economy cabin (especially given G class shows BA are willing to sell 9 seats in that fare class), but anything can change and you can’t guess available seats in a certain class by the number left on sale as closer to departure, BA may have a quiet Business or WTP cabin and thus they know they can roll people forward if they over-sell economy. Hope this makes sense?

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Old Dec 31, 2021, 4:29 pm
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Originally Posted by Pilot37
Incorrect - the number of each fare class still for sale does not mean you can add them up and get the number of free seats - it just is the number BA are willing to sell at that point in time to maximise revenue. At present the numbers for sale in each fare class does indicate a quiet economy cabin (especially given G class shows BA are willing to sell 9 seats in that fare class), but anything can change and you can’t guess available seats in a certain class by the number left on sale as closer to departure, BA may have a quiet Business or WTP cabin and thus they know they can roll people forward if they over-sell economy. Hope this makes sense?

Pilot37
It does make sense, thank you! I'm still curious as to how those numbers indicate a quite cabin? I subscribed to ExpertFlyer yesterday and from what I can see for my flight economy looks pretty much empty! I assume that people have bought tickets for the flight but aren't yet assigned a seat etc.?

Thanks
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Old Dec 31, 2021, 6:16 pm
  #1856  
 
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Hi,

Would someone be kind enough to check this flight for me:

BA173
LHR-JFK
8th Jan

Many thanks!
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Old Dec 31, 2021, 6:44 pm
  #1857  
 
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BA 173 LHR JFK
01/08/22 11:25 AM
01/08/22 2:25 PM 777
Daily
76% / 27m
F1 A0 J9 C9 D9 R9 I9 W9 E7 T0 Y9 B9 H9 K9 M9 L9 V9 S9 N9 Q9 O0 G9
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Old Dec 31, 2021, 10:44 pm
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Originally Posted by LeonardIngle
It does make sense, thank you! I'm still curious as to how those numbers indicate a quite cabin? I subscribed to ExpertFlyer yesterday and from what I can see for my flight economy looks pretty much empty! I assume that people have bought tickets for the flight but aren't yet assigned a seat etc.?

Thanks
Yes. There are several groups of passengers (on BA) that do not have advanced seat selection so one cannot look at a seat map to see if a flight is empty or near empty etc. Obviously if it looks full then it is, but if it looks empty you know close to nothing. Once check-in start there is a little more info as PAX check-in and select seats.

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Old Jan 1, 2022, 1:43 am
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Originally Posted by Tafflyer
BA 173 LHR JFK
01/08/22 11:25 AM
01/08/22 2:25 PM 777
Daily
76% / 27m
F1 A0 J9 C9 D9 R9 I9 W9 E7 T0 Y9 B9 H9 K9 M9 L9 V9 S9 N9 Q9 O0 G9
thanks!
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Old Jan 1, 2022, 1:56 am
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Is there a way to tell how many poug fares there might be for a flight by the fare buckets?
5 of us are travelling on 2 separate bookings in two weeks and we want to upgrade from WTP. I’m not sure if one of us upgrades first the offer would then disappear for the other booking.

its ba2166 tpa-lgw on Jan 15th.

thanks!
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