Best F Avios Can Buy
Jun 6, 2018, 9:23 pm
#31
Join Date: Jan 2005
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Although I've yet to try JL F, I'll put in a shout for often-overlooked MH F. I really liked the food, the seat, privacy and the service was absolutely spot on. Nothing too much trouble and somehow without hovering they seemed to appear at just the moment I wanted something.
Jun 7, 2018, 3:54 am
#32
Join Date: May 2012
Location: Ipswich
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Jun 7, 2018, 4:19 am
#34
Join Date: Nov 2008
Location: Cambridge, UK
Programs: Mucci, BA GGL/CCR
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Jun 7, 2018, 4:54 am
#35
Join Date: Sep 2013
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Posts: 6,399
Am adding my voice to previous shouts for the quality of MH in F (albeit mine was a cash fare rather than redemption).
Flew their LHR-KUL (and return) service last year and found the F ‘suite’ to be extremely spacious & comfortable. This was a somewhat tired A380, on which the F cabin decor was, admittedly, rather dated and perhaps a little drab.
No experience of their new A350 on which F now consists of a single 1-2-1 row, so just four seats in all. But I’d be surprised if it offers anything less than the same stellar standards of service and catering as I received on the 380.
Flew their LHR-KUL (and return) service last year and found the F ‘suite’ to be extremely spacious & comfortable. This was a somewhat tired A380, on which the F cabin decor was, admittedly, rather dated and perhaps a little drab.
No experience of their new A350 on which F now consists of a single 1-2-1 row, so just four seats in all. But I’d be surprised if it offers anything less than the same stellar standards of service and catering as I received on the 380.
Jun 7, 2018, 6:38 am
#36
Join Date: Sep 2008
Location: UK
Programs: BA Gold, Bonvoy Platinum, HH Diamond; others
Posts: 745
I'm surprised so many low votes for QF F - I remember it to be very good (A380) although it was a couple of years ago now. My F comparisons include BA, EK, LH, UA, ... although not JL or CX.
Jun 7, 2018, 7:27 am
#37
Join Date: Sep 2013
Location: London, UK
Programs: Ronin - churn and burn
Posts: 701
For me personally it's a dead heat between JL and QF
QF has a better seat and bedding
QF has a more varied selection of top champagnes
QF has the A380 (I personally feel better coming off an A380 flight vs a 777)
JL has better food
JL has better wine and spirits (and royal blue tea)
JL has a better amenity kit
Flagship lounges are both equally good
QF has a more informal style, JL is more formal - both are excellent in my experience
CX is close behind.
CX have wonderful lounges in HKG and an extremely spacious and comfortable seat. They have started serving Krug 2004 on a few routes.
I love the PYE PJs and find the bed to be both large and very comfortable.
The food is a little more hit and miss though
A great trip would be:
LHR-SIN QF F
SIN-HKG CX J
HKG-HND CX F
HND-LHR JL F
You could jig things round a little bit to include KUL-NRT on MH F if that's of interest (I've personally not tried it).
It's a long flight but tends to have excellent availability on the A350, for multiple F pax.
QF has a better seat and bedding
QF has a more varied selection of top champagnes
QF has the A380 (I personally feel better coming off an A380 flight vs a 777)
JL has better food
JL has better wine and spirits (and royal blue tea)
JL has a better amenity kit
Flagship lounges are both equally good
QF has a more informal style, JL is more formal - both are excellent in my experience
CX is close behind.
CX have wonderful lounges in HKG and an extremely spacious and comfortable seat. They have started serving Krug 2004 on a few routes.
I love the PYE PJs and find the bed to be both large and very comfortable.
The food is a little more hit and miss though
A great trip would be:
LHR-SIN QF F
SIN-HKG CX J
HKG-HND CX F
HND-LHR JL F
You could jig things round a little bit to include KUL-NRT on MH F if that's of interest (I've personally not tried it).
It's a long flight but tends to have excellent availability on the A350, for multiple F pax.
Jun 7, 2018, 7:34 am
#38
Join Date: Feb 2011
Programs: BA blue,, aeroplan 25K
Posts: 1,029
How do you book a JL F ticket ? Is it done on the website (if so I must be dumber than I realsized because I can’t see how 🤦🏻.♂️) or do you have to call BA and can you only book LHR to Japan or can you book from any city that has an F flight ( for example North America). Please feel free to PM me or send a link
and as usual I apologize for the stupid question
and as usual I apologize for the stupid question
Jun 7, 2018, 8:25 am
#39
Join Date: Apr 2015
Programs: Some
Posts: 5,265
For me personally it's a dead heat between JL and QF
QF has a better seat and bedding
QF has a more varied selection of top champagnes
QF has the A380 (I personally feel better coming off an A380 flight vs a 777)
JL has better food
JL has better wine and spirits (and royal blue tea)
JL has a better amenity kit
Flagship lounges are both equally good
QF has a more informal style, JL is more formal - both are excellent in my experience
CX is close behind.
CX have wonderful lounges in HKG and an extremely spacious and comfortable seat. They have started serving Krug 2004 on a few routes.
I love the PYE PJs and find the bed to be both large and very comfortable.
The food is a little more hit and miss though
A great trip would be:
LHR-SIN QF F
SIN-HKG CX J
HKG-HND CX F
HND-LHR JL F
You could jig things round a little bit to include KUL-NRT on MH F if that's of interest (I've personally not tried it).
It's a long flight but tends to have excellent availability on the A350, for multiple F pax.
QF has a better seat and bedding
QF has a more varied selection of top champagnes
QF has the A380 (I personally feel better coming off an A380 flight vs a 777)
JL has better food
JL has better wine and spirits (and royal blue tea)
JL has a better amenity kit
Flagship lounges are both equally good
QF has a more informal style, JL is more formal - both are excellent in my experience
CX is close behind.
CX have wonderful lounges in HKG and an extremely spacious and comfortable seat. They have started serving Krug 2004 on a few routes.
I love the PYE PJs and find the bed to be both large and very comfortable.
The food is a little more hit and miss though
A great trip would be:
LHR-SIN QF F
SIN-HKG CX J
HKG-HND CX F
HND-LHR JL F
You could jig things round a little bit to include KUL-NRT on MH F if that's of interest (I've personally not tried it).
It's a long flight but tends to have excellent availability on the A350, for multiple F pax.
As a separate point, with CX F you should also be aware of the general tiering of routes - believe only LHR and JFK get access to the best wine list with vintage Bordeaux etc. these days.
For reference, QR also serve Krug 2004 but on all routes in F. The CX Krug 2004 offering is seasonal, I believe, and will be rotated out for another champagne later in the year, with JL also doing the same but with different champages after the removal of Salon.
Jun 7, 2018, 8:35 am
#40
Join Date: Apr 2015
Programs: Some
Posts: 5,265
How do you book a JL F ticket ? Is it done on the website (if so I must be dumber than I realsized because I can’t see how 🤦🏻.♂️) or do you have to call BA and can you only book LHR to Japan or can you book from any city that has an F flight ( for example North America). Please feel free to PM me or send a link
and as usual I apologize for the stupid question
and as usual I apologize for the stupid question
Jun 7, 2018, 9:19 am
#42
Join Date: Sep 2013
Location: London, UK
Programs: Ronin - churn and burn
Posts: 701
Would suggest HKG-HND is sub-optimal as it will be a breakfast flight and you'll be missing out on the best aspects of the HND-HKG CX service.
As a separate point, with CX F you should also be aware of the general tiering of routes - believe only LHR and JFK get access to the best wine list with vintage Bordeaux etc. these days.
For reference, QR also serve Krug 2004 but on all routes in F. The CX Krug 2004 offering is seasonal, I believe, and will be rotated out for another champagne later in the year, with JL also doing the same but with different champages after the removal of Salon.
As a separate point, with CX F you should also be aware of the general tiering of routes - believe only LHR and JFK get access to the best wine list with vintage Bordeaux etc. these days.
For reference, QR also serve Krug 2004 but on all routes in F. The CX Krug 2004 offering is seasonal, I believe, and will be rotated out for another champagne later in the year, with JL also doing the same but with different champages after the removal of Salon.
Strangely I've flown HND-HKG 3x in F but never the other way around.
My suggested itinerary, in reverse, would be better. A poster upthread mentioned that Comtes is served on this route now, which would be more than adequate for such a short flight. (I'd also argue that the Kaiseki catering is the best of any CX route)
My last QR F flight only had the NV but it seems like there is a general trend amongst airlines to switch to the 2004, due to NV supply issues.
The fact that QR has F flights, on its flagship LHR route, that offer no bedding or PJs, as well as a reduced meal service; means that it is totally out of the conversation, when it comes to judging the best OW F product.
Jun 7, 2018, 9:22 am
#43
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Join Date: Mar 2013
Programs: Aeroplan, Amex AeroPlat
Posts: 977
For me personally it's a dead heat between JL and QF
QF has a better seat and bedding
QF has a more varied selection of top champagnes
QF has the A380 (I personally feel better coming off an A380 flight vs a 777)
JL has better food
JL has better wine and spirits (and royal blue tea)
JL has a better amenity kit
Flagship lounges are both equally good
QF has a more informal style, JL is more formal - both are excellent in my experience
CX is close behind.
CX have wonderful lounges in HKG and an extremely spacious and comfortable seat. They have started serving Krug 2004 on a few routes.
I love the PYE PJs and find the bed to be both large and very comfortable.
The food is a little more hit and miss though
A great trip would be:
LHR-SIN QF F
SIN-HKG CX J
HKG-HND CX F
HND-LHR JL F
You could jig things round a little bit to include KUL-NRT on MH F if that's of interest (I've personally not tried it).
It's a long flight but tends to have excellent availability on the A350, for multiple F pax.
QF has a better seat and bedding
QF has a more varied selection of top champagnes
QF has the A380 (I personally feel better coming off an A380 flight vs a 777)
JL has better food
JL has better wine and spirits (and royal blue tea)
JL has a better amenity kit
Flagship lounges are both equally good
QF has a more informal style, JL is more formal - both are excellent in my experience
CX is close behind.
CX have wonderful lounges in HKG and an extremely spacious and comfortable seat. They have started serving Krug 2004 on a few routes.
I love the PYE PJs and find the bed to be both large and very comfortable.
The food is a little more hit and miss though
A great trip would be:
LHR-SIN QF F
SIN-HKG CX J
HKG-HND CX F
HND-LHR JL F
You could jig things round a little bit to include KUL-NRT on MH F if that's of interest (I've personally not tried it).
It's a long flight but tends to have excellent availability on the A350, for multiple F pax.
Jun 7, 2018, 9:25 am
#44
Join Date: Apr 2015
Programs: Some
Posts: 5,265
Jun 7, 2018, 10:27 am
#45
Join Date: Jan 2005
Programs: BA Gold, AA Lifetime Gold 1.8mm, IC Spire Ambassador, Hilton Diamond, SPG Gold et al
Posts: 4,350