DYKWIA

Can you use Avois to get onto the Emirates codeshare with Qantas?

haroon145

windowontheAside

Although I've yet to try JL F, I'll put in a shout for often-overlooked MH F. I really liked the food, the seat, privacy and the service was absolutely spot on. Nothing too much trouble and somehow without hovering they seemed to appear at just the moment I wanted something.

dougzz

I've never flown F so have nothing to offer the OP, but surely this needs some context or further explanation? Terrified of management, of the plane's reliability, of ?

arkellvspressdram

I've flown both and I agree with you that MH is pretty good, last time I was the only one in the cabin (A380 KLIA - LHR) so had one seat for eating / drinking / movie watching and my bed made up on another seat for when I'd eaten / drunk too much.

MH vs JL
Seat: tie, they are both vast (MH edges it as I was on a flight where I could use more than one
Toiletries: JL (they also give you a gift which was some Shisheido face stuff which I never use but is a good gift), the case they come in is great, natty looking and highly reusable
PJs: tie, the JL ones were good but didn't wear the MH ones as it was a daytime flight and they were the designated present for mother
Bedding: JL, the choice between hard and soft mattress thing is lovely, best nights sleep I've had on a plane
Food: JL, the multi-course Japanese dinner is quite something on an airplane, MH satay is lit tho
Booze: JL, more high end stuff I recognised...and ALL THE SAKE.
Service: JL, though this was close, JL are so professional and think of everything however MH were perhaps warmer and very very good by any standard

So from my experience JL wins but MH was no slouch.

binman

lost_in_translation

HND-HKG is probably the best value I think (I've actually done both routes in the last year or so), same number of Avios required but a longer flight and the Japanese Kaiseki meal is probably better than CX long haul catering. They also now seem to often have a wine list on the route closer to CX longhaul (e.g. they were serving Comtes des Champagne when I did it a few months ago).

LCY8737

flatlander

The HND-HKG CX flight with F cabin is really good for a smaller amount of Avios. Don't go the other way for a one-off special journey, because they only serve a rather limited Asian fusion breakfast and not the full Kaiseki that they do from HND.

You can't do this any more: back in 2011 I had had some good personal and professional successes so my partner and I went on a long RTW F holiday including HKG-HND with myself in seat 1A in the front of the 747. We took off from HKG and made a wide banking turn around the back of HK Island toward Japan, the view of the outlying islands was fabulous, the sun glinted through my Pacific Sunrise [1], and I really felt like I had made it in life.

Even on a lesser aircraft (777), I wouldn't knock that flight in CX F if it's available and convenient for you.

[1] Pacific Sunrise: ½ oz. Drambuie, Champagne, 4 pieces each of lemon and orange zest. Pour the Drambuie in a champagne flute. Top up with champagne and garnish with the lemon and orange zest.

LTN Phobia

I think a key question that's missing here is:

Where are you trying to go?

lost_in_translation

You mean CX rather than JL, I assume. Also sounds like your crew could have used some re-training in collecting glasses before takeoff

worldtrav

My vote is JAL F, simply awesome.

worldtrav

In a similar situation I too would forget I had my cost centers tagging along, but that's because they would be in the back while we sit upfront.

flatlander

Duh, yes, you're right. I fixed my post.

I lke that they left me with the glass. I had a firm grip on it

Blueboys999

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