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Mid-J 747 Refurbishments
In April 2018 BA announced that they had started a programme to refurbish the cabins on the Mid-J 747-400 fleet. In January 2020, this programme was completed.

As part of the refurbishment all of the aircraft involved have undergone a basic refresh which consisted of:

* Full aircraft deep clean
* Seats in WT/WTP refurbished with new seat foams and cushions as on Super Hi-J aircraft

9 of the aircraft received an ENHANCED refurbishment to bring the cabin up to the same standard as the Super Hi-J 747-400 fleet. This consisted of what is listed above plus:

* New carpets fitted throughout
* All curtains replaced
* New Panasonic IFE fitted in all classes

Note: It was initially believed that the enhanced refurbishment included LED mood lighting throughout, but this is not the case. All retained standard lighting. There were no plans to install WiFi to any Mid-J configured 747-400 aircraft.
Refurbishment Progress
Note: Aircraft that have undergone an ENHANCED refurbishment are shown in red

Aircraft are listed below in the order that they were refurbished and show return to service date, along with retirement date where applicable.

G-CIVM - 03 April 2018 - Retired 16 Mar 2020
G-CIVN - 22 April 2018 - Retired 16 Apr 2020
G-CIVD - 28 June 2018 - Retired 8 August 2020
G-CIVO - 14 October 2018 - Retired 11 September 2020
G-CIVT - 11 November 2018 - Retired 3 April 2020
G-CIVA - 14 January 2019 - Retired 3 April 2020
G-CIVJ - 28 January 2019 - Retired 15 April 2020
G-CIVC - 03 March 2019 - Retired 6 November 2020
G-CIVE - 24 March 2019 - Retired 16 September 2020
G-CIVP - 08 April 2019 - Retired 21 September 2020
G-CIVL - 20 April 2019 - Retired 14 April 2020
G-CIVU - 11 October 2019
G-CIVK - 25 October 2019 - Retired 26 September 2020
G-BNLY - 24 November 2019
G-CIVB - 25 January 2020 - Retired 8 October 2020



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Old Apr 5, 2018, 4:35 am
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I've got an NBO > LHR return coming up in June on one of these birds. Let's hope theres a few more refurbed by then!
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Old Apr 5, 2018, 4:54 am
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Originally Posted by flatlander
Why are only 9 being upgraded to better IFE? Are the others being retired very soon?
Originally Posted by Calum
Is there a reason only 9 out of the 16 are getting the new IFE? Are 7 of them leaving the fleet within a few years?
Echoing both these questions. Why only 9 getting new IFE?

Surely if the other 7 are being retired early you can remove the Panasonic IFE for reuse or sell-on value!?! If you’re going to the lengths of ripping out the interiors anyway, why not update the IFE? Bizarre!! Someone enlighten me
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Old Apr 5, 2018, 5:00 am
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You can't in practical terms recycle IFEs, it's expensive to do and they aren't very shiftable. Where would they end up? Deep cleaning happens anyway. Seats are easily recycled / shifted. I would also bet that 2 of the 7 won't get any update at all, given that they will be gone by the end of Summer.
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Old Apr 5, 2018, 5:07 am
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Originally Posted by corporate-wage-slave
I would also bet that 2 of the 7 won't get any update at all, given that they will be gone by the end of Summer.
I thought that was why the number given was 16.

There are 18 mid-Js. G-BNLK and G-BNLP were (on the last information given in the retirements wikipost) the next to leave, in November and December 2018 respectively. It would certainly make little sense to refresh these two aircraft.

The next in the list was G-BNLN in July 2019. If the planned retirement date remains accurate, I would put money on this aircraft not getting the new IFE.
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Old Apr 5, 2018, 5:10 am
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Originally Posted by corporate-wage-slave
You can't in practical terms recycle IFEs, it's expensive to do and they aren't very shiftable. Where would they end up? Deep cleaning happens anyway. Seats are easily recycled / shifted. I would also bet that 2 of the 7 won't get any update at all, given that they will be gone by the end of Summer.
I was thinking of the screens in particular, if they are indeed just screens...but I guess my lack of knowledge of the components involved clearly means I should keep quiet A screen can be reused in many forms, if it’s simply a plugable display, no?! Not to side track the thread of course.
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Old Apr 5, 2018, 5:39 am
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Are these the ones with PE behind F? The ones that fly to ACC?
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Are these the ones with PE behind F?
Yes.
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Old Apr 5, 2018, 6:16 am
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It is pretty telling (and quite sad really) that this is the best BA news I’ve read in ages.
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Old Apr 5, 2018, 7:45 am
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Originally Posted by hearingdouble
It is pretty telling (and quite sad really) that this is the best BA news I’ve read in ages.
As a regular inmate of the LHR-PHX route, I tend to agree.
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Old Apr 5, 2018, 7:54 am
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Yeah, JFK tends to get one or two of these a day. I just realized that my upcoming booking for the summer will be on the mid-J 747...both ways! I guess I didn't notice when booking as the UD seatmap is the same for both types of 747.
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Old Apr 5, 2018, 7:54 am
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I'm impressed it is only taking two and a half weeks to do the more extensive refits and add Panasonic x3 IFE systems etc.

Compared with the near two month overhaul of the first 777 10-abreast in SIN.

This is good news. But as one of the poster people said above, what is the big news coming on April 5?
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Old Apr 5, 2018, 8:27 am
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Originally Posted by Scotflyer80
The rolling programme of refreshment, will be aligned to the aircrafts' annual maintenance checks, will take place over the coming 18 months.
The cabin refreshment program will run through until 3Q2019.
Originally Posted by Calum
Is there a reason only 9 out of the 16 are getting the new IFE? Are 7 of them leaving the fleet within a few years?
Yes. In fact the 747 fleet is planned to reduce from 36 aircraft to 27 aircraft over the next 2 years

2 aircraft will be retired during 2018
3 aircraft will be retired during 2019
4 aircraft will be retired during by May 2020.








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Old Apr 5, 2018, 8:50 am
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Originally Posted by Scotflyer80
............Yes. In fact the 747 fleet is planned to reduce from 36 aircraft to 27 aircraft over the next 2 years................
You know what the really sad part about that is? By 2020 UPS Airlines will overtake BA as the worlds largest operator of 747's...
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Old Apr 5, 2018, 8:55 am
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Originally Posted by Scotflyer80
The cabin refreshment program will run through until 3Q2019.
Any news as to whether wifi will also go in at this point?
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Old Apr 5, 2018, 9:06 am
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Originally Posted by corporate-wage-slave
Any news as to whether wifi will also go in at this point?
Would appear to be a missed opportunity if this is not the case.
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