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Welcome to the thread. This is a continuation of the highly popular 2017 Tier Point thread. We keep track of other prices, as well as useful reference information for those planning tier point runs.

Please read the first few posts in this thread first as it contains lots of information which may answer your question.

This is a community-maintained wiki post. Please add important information to it or correct outdated information by clicking the "Edit" button below.

Current Promotions of Interest
Sale Fares
  • from JER to PDX IKN8T1S6 reported in this post, e.g. PDX £1,082, needs to be booked by 8 May, see linked post for details

Advanced Promotion Fares
  • from OTP to PHX ILN8C8S4 reported here, e.g. PHX - £1,296, see linked post for details
  • from AMS to BKK INCEU60 reported here, e.g. BKK - £1,340, see linked post for details

See here in post #9 for a 2018 archive of exEU sale fare, and see this post in the 2017 thread for last years’ archive of exEU sale fares.

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This thread lists attractive tier point (TP) runs under £3 per TP grouped within different (departure) geographies

Please note that current availability is not guaranteed and all prices include taxes. Please use the following convention when adding tier point runs to this wiki post:
Date fare checked Price per Tier Point Total Price Total Tier Points Route Booking Classes Booking Channel Credit Notes (if applicable) Airlines

Please remember to:
  • Convert currencies to GBP, rounding to the nearest pound.
  • Post full routes and full booking classes.
  • Note any restrictions on booking in the Notes section.
  • List in order of price per tier point within the relevant departure area.

Please see the links at the bottom of the wiki for archives of runs from previous years.

From Europe
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3Feb 200TPs DUB-LHR-HEL/HEL-LHR all I class ba.com
From North, Central and South America

23Sep £1.48/TP £650 (US$853) 440 TPs JFK-CLT/BOS-LAX-LAS and return all I class aa.com
6Sep £1.50/TP US$457 240TPs RIC-CLT-DCA-BOS, BOS-LGA/PHL-CLT-RIC all I class aa.com
Jan/Feb wide open £1.94/TP £700(US$883) 360 TPs SEA-CLT-MCO-PHX-SEA all I class aa.com



From Middle East, Asia and Australasia
18Jan £1.58/TP £883 560 CMB-xHKG-CGK return I cathaypacific.com ermen CX
28Feb £1.44/TP £575 400 MCT-DOH-BKK-DOH-MCT A/R/R/A travel.americanexpress.co.uk QR
21Feb £1.53/TP £860 560 HKG-CMB-MEL return I Expedia.com.hk Firemin UL
16Mar £1.22/TP £687 560 CGK-CMB-DXB return I srilankan.com Firemin UL
01Apr £0.87/TP £314 360 PEN-KUL-KTM return Malaysian.com cgtechuk MH
01Apr £1.19/TP £335 280 KUL-PER return Malaysian.com cgtechuk MH
01Apr £1.28/TP £335 360 PEN-KUL-PER return Malaysian.com cgtechuk MH
05Apr £2.00/TP £320 160 CAN-HKG-TPE return CathayPacific.com littlevoices CX/KA (flexible fare, bookable up to 24 hours in advance, allows stopovers, book with CX directly)

From Africa


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Need a year-end TP run (ex-LON) to make / retain status?
Some tips for searching for the year-end TP run for newcomers, the below is indicative only, but hopefully provides a bit of guidance for relatively straightforward runs ex-LON. Some information on how to use ITA matrix is in post #4 of this thread (or just click here) along with these ideas, might come in handy. Feel free to share results, problems or general questions in the thread as these may not always work and there might be better deals out there...

For overnight trips remember to check BA and Iberia for their flights and hotel option as well, can get hotel for almost no extra cost at times

Need 80 TPs or fewer
Club Europe return somewhere close by is best - DUB, AMS and JER usually cheapest along with UK domestic returns. Additionally you may find that trips in to mainland Europe require a one night stay whereas the cheapest domestic CE returns do not have any minimum stay so can be booked as a same day return. If doing a back to back AMS and JER can be easier than DUB for an immediate turnaround - more information can be found in the back to back thread listed in the forum dashboard. The BA.com low fare finder can be very useful.

If you need as few as 45 TPs you might consider booking economy flights and hoping for a proactive online upgrade offer - but they're not guaranteed to materialise (so not one if you have no more time left in your TP collection year). Alternatively, booking a return to one of the 40 tier point destinations with one way in CE and the return in ET (or vice versa if cheaper). UK domestic route, Bilbao, Jersey and Amsterdam seem the most cost effective for this.

Need 85-120 TPs
Iberia flights via MAD to regional Spanish airports will get you 120 TPs as the domestic Spanish flights are 20 TPs in business. Under £300 including hotel can be available. Check BIO, GRX, VLC, BCN, SVQ etc. Example here

Need 125-160 TPs
Take a look at the shorthaul plus routes earning 80 TPs each way in business listed in the first post of this thread, MLA, IST, HEL and RAK are usually available. If time sensitive take a look at BA flight and hotel option to HEL, where you can usually get the last BA flight out on a Saturday, airport hotel and first return Sunday for well under £500.

Alternative options include positioning to JER and flying JER-LGW-XXX (AMS usually works well and avoids switching airports).

Need more than 160 TPs
You'll most likely be heading north then - OSL or VNO via HEL will get you 240 TPs, as will JER-LGW/LHR-HEL e.g. LHR-HEL-OSL for £520.
DUB-LHR-HEL return (or return to LHR) is currently a very efficient way of hitting 200-240 TPs
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Old Jan 7, 2018, 8:25 am
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Originally Posted by navylad

oh is it first on two of the LH legs for approx 1.56tp/£? Fab
Yes, it's an I/A DIF which upgrades to A buckets on all flights possible. I've got a booking to OGG from LCA, returning to SOF, for 1280TP for £1964. About £1.53/TP.
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Old Jan 7, 2018, 8:31 am
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My dates were too constrained otherwise I would have gone to OGG, love Maui. However, HNL will definitely do.
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Old Jan 7, 2018, 9:19 am
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Does this B2B work?

Not exactly a TP run (I need to be in Prague for a wedding on Sat June 16 and thought I could do a bit of B2Bing for fun whilst I'm in LHR anyway).

is it possible here at NCL or a bad idea?

Sadly couldn't find a route through HEL to actually make it worthwhile going that way


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Old Jan 7, 2018, 9:36 am
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Originally Posted by annihilation
Its a little better than that at 1.5TP/£
I presume you used a GUF to get it into A Class on the legs across the pond?

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Old Jan 7, 2018, 9:38 am
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Originally Posted by msm2000uk
I presume you used a GUF to get it into A Class on the legs across the pond?

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No, the A DIF fare allows A class booking all through the itinerary.
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Old Jan 7, 2018, 9:40 am
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Originally Posted by nufnuf77
No, the A DIF fare allows A class booking all through the itinerary.
Ah, interesting. Some basic Googling has explained what the fare is, but how does one go about booking a DIF fare?

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Old Jan 7, 2018, 9:41 am
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Originally Posted by msm2000uk
Ah, interesting. Some basic Googling has explained what the fare is, but how does one go about booking a DIF fare?
Just go through the motions as if it were a normal F fare, the DIF should automatically come up as long as there's I *and* A bucket availability on your selected flights. The best way is probably to try pricing it as a business fare to begin with then change it to first. Should come up a few hundred more.
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Old Jan 7, 2018, 9:46 am
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Originally Posted by Beaulieu
Just go through the motions as if it were a normal F fare, the DIF should automatically come up as long as there's I *and* A bucket availability on your selected flights. The best way is probably to try pricing it as a business fare to begin with then change it to first. Should come up a few hundred more.
Thanks Beaulieu

The J fare I found, which was a return to SOF (couldn't work out how to return to OTP opposed to SOF), came up at £1,900.

In F, I could price it at 2,039, but as a longer trip...I'm only looking at one night (so leave SOF on a Saturday, and pretty much do an instant turn).

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Originally Posted by msm2000uk
Thanks Beaulieu

The J fare I found, which was a return to SOF (couldn't work out how to return to OTP opposed to SOF), came up at £1,900.

In F, I could price it at 2,039, but as a longer trip...I'm only looking at one night (so leave SOF on a Saturday, and pretty much do an instant turn).

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Basically you need the flights to have both I AND A class available. Transcons are notoriously difficult for I class but if you time it right you can get it done.
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Thanks Beaulieu

The J fare I found, which was a return to SOF (couldn't work out how to return to OTP opposed to SOF), came up at £1,900.

In F, I could price it at 2,039, but as a longer trip...I'm only looking at one night (so leave SOF on a Saturday, and pretty much do an instant turn).

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The easiest way is to do it on Matrix as a multi-city journey. The business class fares that derive from the DIF are priced at between £1600 and £1700 for most of the journeys you can do. The fare basis you are looking for is INX9T7S6 for the cheapest ones. Rules listed below for the GOT-HNL variant.

Note that it's valid for Monday-Thursday travel only, must include Saturday night stay and must travel by 31st August.


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PERMITTED MON THROUGH THU.
Category 4: Flight restrictions
THE FARE COMPONENT MUST NOT BE ON ONE OR MORE OF THE FOLLOWING ANY AA FLIGHT OPERATED BY WS ANY WS FLIGHT. AND THE FARE COMPONENT MUST NOT BE ON ONE OR MORE OF THE FOLLOWING LH FLIGHTS 3751 THROUGH 3897 LH FLIGHTS 3400 THROUGH 3632. AND IF THE FARE COMPONENT INCLUDES TRAVEL WITHIN EUROPE THEN THAT TRAVEL MUST BE ON ONE OR MORE OF THE FOLLOWING ANY VY FLIGHT OPERATED BY VY ANY EI FLIGHT OPERATED BY EI ANY LX FLIGHT OPERATED BY LX ANY A3 FLIGHT ANY AZ FLIGHT OPERATED BY AZ ANY AZ FLIGHT OPERATED BY CT ANY FB FLIGHT OPERATED BY FB ANY OS FLIGHT OPERATED BY OS ANY OU FLIGHT OPERATED BY OU ANY BE FLIGHT OPERATED BY BE ANY LO FLIGHT OPERATED BY LO ANY SK FLIGHT OPERATED BY SK ANY TP FLIGHT OPERATED BY TP ANY TP FLIGHT OPERATED BY NI ANY LH FLIGHT OPERATED BY LH ANY LH FLIGHT OPERATED BY CL ANY LH FLIGHT OPERATED BY EN ANY LX FLIGHT OPERATED BY WK ANY LX FLIGHT OPERATED BY 2L ANY JU FLIGHT OPERATED BY JU ANY AF FLIGHT OPERATED BY AF ANY AF FLIGHT OPERATED BY A5. AND IF THE FARE COMPONENT INCLUDES TRAVEL WITHIN NORTH AMERICA THEN THAT TRAVEL MUST BE ON ONE OR MORE OF THE FOLLOWING ANY AA FLIGHT OPERATED BY AA ANY AA FLIGHT OPERATED BY 9K ANY AA FLIGHT OPERATED BY HA. AND THE FARE COMPONENT MUST INCLUDE TRAVEL VIA EACH TRANSATLANTIC SECTOR ON ONE OR MORE OF THE FOLLOWING ANY AA FLIGHT OPERATED BY AA. THE FARE COMPONENT MUST NOT BE ON ONE OR MORE OF THE FOLLOWING ANY AA FLIGHT OPERATED BY WS ANY WS FLIGHT. AND THE FARE COMPONENT MUST NOT BE ON ONE OR MORE OF THE FOLLOWING LH FLIGHTS 3751 THROUGH 3897 LH FLIGHTS 3400 THROUGH 3632. AND IF THE FARE COMPONENT INCLUDES TRAVEL WITHIN EUROPE THEN THAT TRAVEL MUST BE ON ONE OR MORE OF THE FOLLOWING ANY AA FLIGHT OPERATED BY AY ANY AA FLIGHT OPERATED BY BA ANY AA FLIGHT OPERATED BY IB ANY AY FLIGHT OPERATED BY AY ANY BA FLIGHT OPERATED BY BA ANY IB FLIGHT OPERATED BY IB ANY IB FLIGHT OPERATED BY I2 ANY 4T FLIGHT OPERATED BY 4T ANY VY FLIGHT OPERATED BY VY. AND IF THE FARE COMPONENT INCLUDES TRAVEL WITHIN NORTH AMERICA THEN THAT TRAVEL MUST BE ON ONE OR MORE OF THE FOLLOWING ANY AA FLIGHT OPERATED BY AA ANY AA FLIGHT OPERATED BY HA. AND THE FARE COMPONENT MUST INCLUDE TRAVEL VIA EACH TRANSATLANTIC SECTOR ON ONE OR MORE OF THE FOLLOWING ANY AA FLIGHT OPERATED BY AA ANY AA FLIGHT OPERATED BY BA ANY AA FLIGHT OPERATED BY AY ANY AA FLIGHT OPERATED BY IB.
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RESERVATIONS FOR ALL SECTORS ARE REQUIRED AT LEAST 90 DAYS BEFORE DEPARTURE. TICKETING MUST BE COMPLETED WITHIN 3 DAYS AFTER RESERVATIONS ARE MADE OR AT LEAST 90 DAYS BEFORE DEPARTURE WHICHEVER IS EARLIER. NOTE - DUE TO TTL ROBOT PROCESS DIFFERENCES MAY EXIST BETWEEN THE CRS LAST TICKETING DATE AND TTL ROBOT REMARK. THE INFORMATION BY SSR IN THE PNR PREVAILS.
Category 6: Minimum stay requirements
TRAVEL FROM INBOUND TRANSATLANTIC SECTOR MUST COMMENCE NO EARLIER THAN THE FIRST SUN AFTER DEPARTURE OF THE OUTBOUND TRANSATLANTIC SECTOR.
Category 7: Maximum stay requirements
TRAVEL FROM LAST STOPOVER MUST COMMENCE NO LATER THAN 12 MONTHS AFTER DEPARTURE FROM FARE ORIGIN.
Category 8: Stopover restrictions
STOPOVERS NOT PERMITTED ON THE FARE COMPONENT.
Category 9: Transfer restrictions
2 TRANSFERS PERMITTED IN EACH DIRECTION FREE 1 PERMITTED FREE BETWEEN AA AND VY IN BCN/ROM IN EACH DIRECTION NONE PERMITTED FREE BETWEEN AA AND VY IN EACH DIRECTION 2 PERMITTED FREE IN EUROPE IN EACH DIRECTION. AND - 2 TRANSFERS PERMITTED IN EACH DIRECTION FREE 1 FREE BETWEEN BA/IB AND B6 IN BOS/JFK IN EACH DIRECTION 1 FREE BETWEEN AA/AY/BA/IB/US AND AS IN LAX/PDX/ SEA IN EACH DIRECTION 1 FREE BETWEEN AA/AY/BA/IB/US AND AM IN MEXICO IN EACH DIRECTION 1 FREE BETWEEN AA/AY/BA/IB/US AND AC IN CANADA IN EACH DIRECTION 1 FREE BETWEEN AA/AY/BA/IB/US AND HA IN HAWAII IN EACH DIRECTION 2 FREE ON AA/AY/BA/IB/US ONLY IN EACH DIRECTION FARE BREAK SURFACE SECTORS NOT PERMITTED AND EMBEDDED SURFACE SECTORS PERMITTED ON THE FARE COMPONENT.
Category 10: Combinability
APPLICABLE ADD-ON CONSTRUCTION IS ADDRESSED IN MISCELLANEOUS PROVISIONS - CATEGORY 23. END-ON-END END-ON-END COMBINATIONS NOT PERMITTED WITH DOMESTIC FARES FROM/TO NORTH AMERICA. VALIDATE ALL FARE COMPONENTS. SIDE TRIPS PERMITTED. EXCEPT AS PROVIDED ABOVE END-ON-END COMBINATIONS NOT PERMITTED WITH INTERNATIONAL FARES. VALIDATE ALL FARE COMPONENTS. SIDE TRIPS PERMITTED. END-ON-END NOTE - ADDONS PERMITTED PROVIDED - COMBINATIONS ARE NOT FOR CARRIER AA/BA/IB/AY WITHIN EUROPE END-ON-END END-ON-END COMBINATIONS NOT PERMITTED WITH INTERNATIONAL FARES. VALIDATE ALL FARE COMPONENTS. SIDE TRIPS PERMITTED. END-ON-END NOTE - ADDONS PERMITTED PROVIDED - COMBINATIONS ARE FOR CARRIER AA/BA/IB/AY OPEN JAWS FARES MAY BE COMBINED ON A HALF ROUND TRIP BASIS -TO FORM SINGLE OR DOUBLE OPEN JAWS. A MAXIMUM OF TWO INTERNATIONAL FARE COMPONENTS PERMITTED. MILEAGE OF THE OPEN SEGMENT MUST BE EQUAL/LESS THAN MILEAGE OF THE LONGEST FLOWN FARE COMPONENT. PROVIDED - COMBINATIONS ARE WITH ANY FARE FOR CARRIER BA/IB/AY IN ANY RULE IN TARIFF AATBAR - BETWEEN THE USA/CANADA-AREA 2/3 VIA ATLANTIC OR ANY RULE IN TARIFF FBRA12P - BETWEEN AREA 1 AND AREA 2 EXCEPT US/CA FOR TRAVEL VIA THE ATLANTIC OR WITH FARES IN ANY RULE IN TARIFF FBRA13P - BETWEEN AREA 1 AND AREA 3 EXCEPT US/CA FOR TRAVEL VIA THE ATLANTIC OR WITH FARES IN ANY RULE IN TARIFF FBRINPV - BETWEEN USA/CA-AREA 1/2/3 IPRA - USA/CANADA-AREA 2/3 AND GUAM-AREA 2 VIA ATLANTIC IPRAI - BETWEEN THE USA/CANADA-AREA 2/3 VIA ATLANTIC IPRSAA2 - BETWEEN THE WESTERN HEMISPHERE-AREA 2 VIA ATLANTIC IPRSAA3 - BETWEEN THE WESTERN HEMISPHERE-AREA 3 VIA ATLANTIC SA2BAR - BETWEEN THE WESTERN HEMISPHERE-AREA 2 VIA ATLANTIC SA3BAR - BETWEEN THE WESTERN HEMISPHERE-AREA 3 VIA ATLANTIC TAFPBAR - BETWEEN AREA 1-AREA 2/3 AND GUAM-AREA 2. ROUND TRIPS/CIRCLE TRIPS FARES MAY BE COMBINED ON A HALF ROUND TRIP BASIS -TO FORM ROUND TRIPS -TO FORM CIRCLE TRIPS EXCEPT FOR AROUND-THE-WORLD FARES. A MAXIMUM OF TWO INTERNATIONAL FARE COMPONENTS PERMITTED. PROVIDED - COMBINATIONS ARE WITH ANY FARE FOR CARRIER BA/IB/AY IN ANY RULE IN TARIFF AATBAR - BETWEEN THE USA/CANADA-AREA 2/3 VIA ATLANTIC OR ANY RULE IN TARIFF FBRA12P - BETWEEN AREA 1 AND AREA 2 EXCEPT US/CA FOR TRAVEL VIA THE ATLANTIC OR WITH FARES IN ANY RULE IN TARIFF FBRA13P - BETWEEN AREA 1 AND AREA 3 EXCEPT US/CA FOR TRAVEL VIA THE ATLANTIC OR WITH FARES IN ANY RULE IN TARIFF FBRINPV - BETWEEN USA/CA-AREA 1/2/3 IPRA - USA/CANADA-AREA 2/3 AND GUAM-AREA 2 VIA ATLANTIC IPRAI - BETWEEN THE USA/CANADA-AREA 2/3 VIA ATLANTIC IPRSAA2 - BETWEEN THE WESTERN HEMISPHERE-AREA 2 VIA ATLANTIC IPRSAA3 - BETWEEN THE WESTERN HEMISPHERE-AREA 3 VIA ATLANTIC SA2BAR - BETWEEN THE WESTERN HEMISPHERE-AREA 2 VIA ATLANTIC SA3BAR - BETWEEN THE WESTERN HEMISPHERE-AREA 3 VIA ATLANTIC TAFPBAR - BETWEEN AREA 1-AREA 2/3 AND GUAM-AREA 2. OPEN JAWS FARES MAY BE COMBINED ON A HALF ROUND TRIP BASIS -TO FORM SINGLE OR DOUBLE OPEN JAWS. A MAXIMUM OF TWO INTERNATIONAL FARE COMPONENTS PERMITTED. MILEAGE OF THE OPEN SEGMENT MUST BE EQUAL/LESS THAN MILEAGE OF THE LONGEST FLOWN FARE COMPONENT. PROVIDED - COMBINATIONS ARE WITH ANY FARE FOR CARRIER AA IN ANY RULE IN TARIFF IPRA - USA/CANADA-AREA 2/3 AND GUAM-AREA 2 VIA ATLANTIC IPRAI - BETWEEN THE USA/CANADA-AREA 2/3 VIA ATLANTIC IPRSAA2 - BETWEEN THE WESTERN HEMISPHERE-AREA 2 VIA ATLANTIC IPRSAA3 - BETWEEN THE WESTERN HEMISPHERE-AREA 3 VIA ATLANTIC. ROUND TRIPS/CIRCLE TRIPS FARES MAY BE COMBINED ON A HALF ROUND TRIP BASIS -TO FORM ROUND TRIPS -TO FORM CIRCLE TRIPS A MAXIMUM OF 2 FARE BREAK POINTS PERMITTED. PROVIDED - COMBINATIONS ARE WITH ANY FARE FOR CARRIER AA IN ANY RULE IN TARIFF IPRA - USA/CANADA-AREA 2/3 AND GUAM-AREA 2 VIA ATLANTIC IPRAI - BETWEEN THE USA/CANADA-AREA 2/3 VIA ATLANTIC IPRSAA2 - BETWEEN THE WESTERN HEMISPHERE-AREA 2 VIA ATLANTIC IPRSAA3 - BETWEEN THE WESTERN HEMISPHERE-AREA 3 VIA ATLANTIC. NOTE - THE CITY PAIRS BELOW ARE CONSIDERED THE SAME POINT- FLL-MIA OAK-SFO OAK-SJC SFO-SJC LAX-ONT BUR-LAX LAX-LGB LAX-SNA BUR-ONT LGB-ONT ONT-SNA BUR-LGB ORF-PHF BUR-SNA LGB-SNA EWR-NYC BWI-WAS
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Category 14: Travel restrictions
VALID FOR TRAVEL COMMENCING ON/BEFORE 31AUG 18.
Category 15: Sales restrictions
TICKETS MUST BE ISSUED ON/BEFORE 04FEB 18.
Category 15: Sales restrictions
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
Category 16: Penalties
CANCELLATIONS ANY TIME TICKET IS NON-REFUNDABLE. NOTE - IN THE CASE OF THE DEATH OF THE PASSENGER/OR A TRAVELING COMPANION/ THE SERVICE CHARGE MAY BE WAIVED OR THE TICKET REFUNDED. VISIT AA.COM FOR DETAIL ---- WAIVED FOR SCHEDULE CHANGE ----------------------------------------------- WHEN COMBINING FARES THAT HAVE CANCELLATION FEES THE HIGHEST CANCELLATION FEE OF EACH OF THE CANCELLED PRICING UNITS APPLIES WITH THE FOLLOWING EXCEPTION WHEN COMBINING A REFUNDABLE FARE WITH A NON-REFUNDABLE FARE 1.THE AMOUNT PAID ON THE REFUNDABLE FARE COMPONENT IS REFUNDED LESS ANY APPLICABLE PENALTY 2.THE AMOUNT PAID ON THE NON-REFUNDABLE FARE COMPONENT WILL NOT BE REFUNDED ----------------------------------------------- REFUND OF UNUSED TAXES FEES AND CHARGES PAID TO THIRD PARTIES PERMITTED. ----------------------------------------------- FOR TRAVEL AGENCY BOOKINGS MADE IN MEXICO / THE CARIBBEAN / CENTRAL AND SOUTH AMERICA - AA WILL ASSESS A USD50.00 FEE ON ANY UNTICKETED RESERVATION NOT CANCELLED BEFORE DEPARTURE CHANGES ANY TIME CHANGES NOT PERMITTED. NOTE - A CHANGE IS A DATE/ OR FLIGHT/ OR ROUTING/ OR RESERVATION CHANGE ---------------------------------------------- WHEN COMBINING FARES THAT HAVE CHANGE FEES THE HIGHEST PENALTY OF ANY OF THE CHANGED FARE COMPONENTS APPLIES WITH THE FOLLOWING EXCEPTION WHEN COMBINING NON-CHANGEABLE FARES WITH CHANGEABLE FARES THE CHANGEABLE FARE COMPONENTS REMAIN CHANGEABLE.
Category 17: HIP exceptions
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Category 18: Endorsements
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Category 19: Discounts
ACCOMPANIED CHILD 2-11 - CHARGE 75 PERCENT OF THE FARE. TICKETING CODE - BASE FARE CODE PLUS CH. MUST BE ACCOMPANIED ON ALL FLIGHTS IN SAME COMPARTMENT BY ADULT OR - INFANT UNDER 2 WITH A SEAT - CHARGE 75 PERCENT OF THE FARE. TICKETING CODE - BASE FARE CODE PLUS CH. MUST BE ACCOMPANIED ON ALL FLIGHTS IN SAME COMPARTMENT BY ADULT OR - INFANT UNDER 2 WITHOUT A SEAT - CHARGE 10 PERCENT OF THE FARE. TICKETING CODE - BASE FARE CODE PLUS IN. MUST BE ACCOMPANIED ON ALL FLIGHTS IN SAME COMPARTMENT BY ADULT OR - UNACCOMPANIED CHILD 5-14 - CHARGE 100 PERCENT OF THE FARE. NOTE - UNACCOMPANIED CHILDREN 5 6 AND 7 YEARS OF AGE WILL ONLY BE TRANSPORTED OVER THE LINES OF AA NON-STOP OR THROUGH PLANE SERVICE.
Category 20: Tour Discounts
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Category 21: Agent Discounts
NOTE - DISCOUNTS APPLY. INFORMATION IS NOT AVAILABLE AT THIS TIME. CONTACT CARRIER FOR DETAILS. THIS RULE DOES NOT APPLY FOR TRAVEL ON OTHER AIRLINE OPERATED CODE SHARE FLIGHTS.
Category 22: Other Discounts
THE PROVISIONS BELOW APPLY ONLY AS FOLLOWS - TICKETS MUST BE ISSUED ON AA. SALE IS RESTRICTED TO SPECIFIC AGENTS. FARES MAY ONLY BE SOLD BY AA AND MAY NOT BE SOLD BY TRAVEL AGENTS. PASSENGER OCCUPYING TWO SEATS. ID REQUIRED - CHARGE 100 PERCENT OF THE FARE. TICKET DESIGNATOR - SEAT. NOTE - APPLICATION--- FARES APPLY TO A PASSENGER PERMITTED THE EXCLUSIVE USE OF TWO ADJACENT SEATS. SENIOR CITIZEN 65 OR OLDER. ID REQUIRED - NO DISCOUNT. NOTE - RULE 1810 - SENIOR CITIZEN DISCOUNT DOES NOT APPLY
Category 23: Miscellaneous Fare Tags
NOTE - APPLIES ONLY FOR TRANSPORTATION TO THE FIRST CITY SHOWN - AND RETURN WHERE SHOWN IN CONNECTION WITH PUBLISHED ROUND TRIP FARES.
Category 31: Voluntary changes
IN THE EVENT OF CHANGES TO TICKETED FLIGHTS ANYTIME WITHIN TKT VALIDITY CHANGES EXCEPT RBD NOT PERMITTED TO THE FARE COMPONENT- CHARGE HIGHEST FEE OF ALL CHANGED FARE COMPONENTS.
Category 33: Voluntary cancellations
REFER TO PENALTIES CATEGORY 16
Category 50: Application
FIRST/BUSINESS CLASS TRANSATLANTIC FARES APPLICATION AREA THESE FARES APPLY FROM EUROPE TO THE UNITED STATES. CLASS OF SERVICE THESE FARES APPLY FOR FIRST/BUSINESS CLASS SERVICE. TYPES OF TRANSPORTATION FARES GOVERNED BY THIS RULE CAN BE USED TO CREATE ONE-WAY/ROUND-TRIP/CIRCLE-TRIP/OPEN-JAW JOURNEYS. THE TICKET IS INVALID IF FLIGHT COUPONS ARE NOT USED IN SEQUENCE. FARE DOES NOT APPLY FOR REFUND CALCULATION AFTER TRAVEL AT A HIGHER FARE PASSENGER EXPENCES NOT ABSORBED BY CARRIER CAPACITY LIMITATIONS THE CARRIER SHALL LIMIT THE NUMBER OF PASSENGERS CARRIED ON ANY ONE FLIGHT AT FARES GOVERNED BY THIS RULE AND SUCH FARES WILL NOT NECESSARILY BE AVAILABLE ON ALL FLIGHTS. THE NUMBER OF SEATS WHICH THE CARRIER SHALL MAKE AVAILABLE ON A GIVEN FLIGHT WILL BE DETERMINED BY THE CARRIERS BEST JUDGMENT LEVEL- ARE NOT SUBJECT TO CAPACITY CONTROL.
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Old Jan 7, 2018, 9:55 am
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Originally Posted by teledude
Correct and yes you can do seat selection etc. Tbh for this I'd be happy and have before booked happily with IB
Thank you so very very much
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Old Jan 7, 2018, 9:57 am
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Originally Posted by Beaulieu
The easiest way is to do it on Matrix as a multi-city journey. The business class fares that derive from the DIF are priced at between £1600 and £1700 for most of the journeys you can do. The fare basis you are looking for is INX9T7S6 for the cheapest ones. Rules listed below for the GOT-HNL variant.

Note that it's valid for Monday-Thursday travel only, must include Saturday night stay and must travel by 31st August.


Code:
Category 2: Day/Time restrictions
PERMITTED MON THROUGH THU.
Category 4: Flight restrictions
THE FARE COMPONENT MUST NOT BE ON ONE OR MORE OF THE FOLLOWING ANY AA FLIGHT OPERATED BY WS ANY WS FLIGHT. AND THE FARE COMPONENT MUST NOT BE ON ONE OR MORE OF THE FOLLOWING LH FLIGHTS 3751 THROUGH 3897 LH FLIGHTS 3400 THROUGH 3632. AND IF THE FARE COMPONENT INCLUDES TRAVEL WITHIN EUROPE THEN THAT TRAVEL MUST BE ON ONE OR MORE OF THE FOLLOWING ANY VY FLIGHT OPERATED BY VY ANY EI FLIGHT OPERATED BY EI ANY LX FLIGHT OPERATED BY LX ANY A3 FLIGHT ANY AZ FLIGHT OPERATED BY AZ ANY AZ FLIGHT OPERATED BY CT ANY FB FLIGHT OPERATED BY FB ANY OS FLIGHT OPERATED BY OS ANY OU FLIGHT OPERATED BY OU ANY BE FLIGHT OPERATED BY BE ANY LO FLIGHT OPERATED BY LO ANY SK FLIGHT OPERATED BY SK ANY TP FLIGHT OPERATED BY TP ANY TP FLIGHT OPERATED BY NI ANY LH FLIGHT OPERATED BY LH ANY LH FLIGHT OPERATED BY CL ANY LH FLIGHT OPERATED BY EN ANY LX FLIGHT OPERATED BY WK ANY LX FLIGHT OPERATED BY 2L ANY JU FLIGHT OPERATED BY JU ANY AF FLIGHT OPERATED BY AF ANY AF FLIGHT OPERATED BY A5. AND IF THE FARE COMPONENT INCLUDES TRAVEL WITHIN NORTH AMERICA THEN THAT TRAVEL MUST BE ON ONE OR MORE OF THE FOLLOWING ANY AA FLIGHT OPERATED BY AA ANY AA FLIGHT OPERATED BY 9K ANY AA FLIGHT OPERATED BY HA. AND THE FARE COMPONENT MUST INCLUDE TRAVEL VIA EACH TRANSATLANTIC SECTOR ON ONE OR MORE OF THE FOLLOWING ANY AA FLIGHT OPERATED BY AA. THE FARE COMPONENT MUST NOT BE ON ONE OR MORE OF THE FOLLOWING ANY AA FLIGHT OPERATED BY WS ANY WS FLIGHT. AND THE FARE COMPONENT MUST NOT BE ON ONE OR MORE OF THE FOLLOWING LH FLIGHTS 3751 THROUGH 3897 LH FLIGHTS 3400 THROUGH 3632. AND IF THE FARE COMPONENT INCLUDES TRAVEL WITHIN EUROPE THEN THAT TRAVEL MUST BE ON ONE OR MORE OF THE FOLLOWING ANY AA FLIGHT OPERATED BY AY ANY AA FLIGHT OPERATED BY BA ANY AA FLIGHT OPERATED BY IB ANY AY FLIGHT OPERATED BY AY ANY BA FLIGHT OPERATED BY BA ANY IB FLIGHT OPERATED BY IB ANY IB FLIGHT OPERATED BY I2 ANY 4T FLIGHT OPERATED BY 4T ANY VY FLIGHT OPERATED BY VY. AND IF THE FARE COMPONENT INCLUDES TRAVEL WITHIN NORTH AMERICA THEN THAT TRAVEL MUST BE ON ONE OR MORE OF THE FOLLOWING ANY AA FLIGHT OPERATED BY AA ANY AA FLIGHT OPERATED BY HA. AND THE FARE COMPONENT MUST INCLUDE TRAVEL VIA EACH TRANSATLANTIC SECTOR ON ONE OR MORE OF THE FOLLOWING ANY AA FLIGHT OPERATED BY AA ANY AA FLIGHT OPERATED BY BA ANY AA FLIGHT OPERATED BY AY ANY AA FLIGHT OPERATED BY IB.
Category 5: Advanced reservation/ticketing restrictions
RESERVATIONS FOR ALL SECTORS ARE REQUIRED AT LEAST 90 DAYS BEFORE DEPARTURE. TICKETING MUST BE COMPLETED WITHIN 3 DAYS AFTER RESERVATIONS ARE MADE OR AT LEAST 90 DAYS BEFORE DEPARTURE WHICHEVER IS EARLIER. NOTE - DUE TO TTL ROBOT PROCESS DIFFERENCES MAY EXIST BETWEEN THE CRS LAST TICKETING DATE AND TTL ROBOT REMARK. THE INFORMATION BY SSR IN THE PNR PREVAILS.
Category 6: Minimum stay requirements
TRAVEL FROM INBOUND TRANSATLANTIC SECTOR MUST COMMENCE NO EARLIER THAN THE FIRST SUN AFTER DEPARTURE OF THE OUTBOUND TRANSATLANTIC SECTOR.
Category 7: Maximum stay requirements
TRAVEL FROM LAST STOPOVER MUST COMMENCE NO LATER THAN 12 MONTHS AFTER DEPARTURE FROM FARE ORIGIN.
Category 8: Stopover restrictions
STOPOVERS NOT PERMITTED ON THE FARE COMPONENT.
Category 9: Transfer restrictions
2 TRANSFERS PERMITTED IN EACH DIRECTION FREE 1 PERMITTED FREE BETWEEN AA AND VY IN BCN/ROM IN EACH DIRECTION NONE PERMITTED FREE BETWEEN AA AND VY IN EACH DIRECTION 2 PERMITTED FREE IN EUROPE IN EACH DIRECTION. AND - 2 TRANSFERS PERMITTED IN EACH DIRECTION FREE 1 FREE BETWEEN BA/IB AND B6 IN BOS/JFK IN EACH DIRECTION 1 FREE BETWEEN AA/AY/BA/IB/US AND AS IN LAX/PDX/ SEA IN EACH DIRECTION 1 FREE BETWEEN AA/AY/BA/IB/US AND AM IN MEXICO IN EACH DIRECTION 1 FREE BETWEEN AA/AY/BA/IB/US AND AC IN CANADA IN EACH DIRECTION 1 FREE BETWEEN AA/AY/BA/IB/US AND HA IN HAWAII IN EACH DIRECTION 2 FREE ON AA/AY/BA/IB/US ONLY IN EACH DIRECTION FARE BREAK SURFACE SECTORS NOT PERMITTED AND EMBEDDED SURFACE SECTORS PERMITTED ON THE FARE COMPONENT.
Category 10: Combinability
APPLICABLE ADD-ON CONSTRUCTION IS ADDRESSED IN MISCELLANEOUS PROVISIONS - CATEGORY 23. END-ON-END END-ON-END COMBINATIONS NOT PERMITTED WITH DOMESTIC FARES FROM/TO NORTH AMERICA. VALIDATE ALL FARE COMPONENTS. SIDE TRIPS PERMITTED. EXCEPT AS PROVIDED ABOVE END-ON-END COMBINATIONS NOT PERMITTED WITH INTERNATIONAL FARES. VALIDATE ALL FARE COMPONENTS. SIDE TRIPS PERMITTED. END-ON-END NOTE - ADDONS PERMITTED PROVIDED - COMBINATIONS ARE NOT FOR CARRIER AA/BA/IB/AY WITHIN EUROPE END-ON-END END-ON-END COMBINATIONS NOT PERMITTED WITH INTERNATIONAL FARES. VALIDATE ALL FARE COMPONENTS. SIDE TRIPS PERMITTED. END-ON-END NOTE - ADDONS PERMITTED PROVIDED - COMBINATIONS ARE FOR CARRIER AA/BA/IB/AY OPEN JAWS FARES MAY BE COMBINED ON A HALF ROUND TRIP BASIS -TO FORM SINGLE OR DOUBLE OPEN JAWS. A MAXIMUM OF TWO INTERNATIONAL FARE COMPONENTS PERMITTED. MILEAGE OF THE OPEN SEGMENT MUST BE EQUAL/LESS THAN MILEAGE OF THE LONGEST FLOWN FARE COMPONENT. PROVIDED - COMBINATIONS ARE WITH ANY FARE FOR CARRIER BA/IB/AY IN ANY RULE IN TARIFF AATBAR - BETWEEN THE USA/CANADA-AREA 2/3 VIA ATLANTIC OR ANY RULE IN TARIFF FBRA12P - BETWEEN AREA 1 AND AREA 2 EXCEPT US/CA FOR TRAVEL VIA THE ATLANTIC OR WITH FARES IN ANY RULE IN TARIFF FBRA13P - BETWEEN AREA 1 AND AREA 3 EXCEPT US/CA FOR TRAVEL VIA THE ATLANTIC OR WITH FARES IN ANY RULE IN TARIFF FBRINPV - BETWEEN USA/CA-AREA 1/2/3 IPRA - USA/CANADA-AREA 2/3 AND GUAM-AREA 2 VIA ATLANTIC IPRAI - BETWEEN THE USA/CANADA-AREA 2/3 VIA ATLANTIC IPRSAA2 - BETWEEN THE WESTERN HEMISPHERE-AREA 2 VIA ATLANTIC IPRSAA3 - BETWEEN THE WESTERN HEMISPHERE-AREA 3 VIA ATLANTIC SA2BAR - BETWEEN THE WESTERN HEMISPHERE-AREA 2 VIA ATLANTIC SA3BAR - BETWEEN THE WESTERN HEMISPHERE-AREA 3 VIA ATLANTIC TAFPBAR - BETWEEN AREA 1-AREA 2/3 AND GUAM-AREA 2. ROUND TRIPS/CIRCLE TRIPS FARES MAY BE COMBINED ON A HALF ROUND TRIP BASIS -TO FORM ROUND TRIPS -TO FORM CIRCLE TRIPS EXCEPT FOR AROUND-THE-WORLD FARES. A MAXIMUM OF TWO INTERNATIONAL FARE COMPONENTS PERMITTED. PROVIDED - COMBINATIONS ARE WITH ANY FARE FOR CARRIER BA/IB/AY IN ANY RULE IN TARIFF AATBAR - BETWEEN THE USA/CANADA-AREA 2/3 VIA ATLANTIC OR ANY RULE IN TARIFF FBRA12P - BETWEEN AREA 1 AND AREA 2 EXCEPT US/CA FOR TRAVEL VIA THE ATLANTIC OR WITH FARES IN ANY RULE IN TARIFF FBRA13P - BETWEEN AREA 1 AND AREA 3 EXCEPT US/CA FOR TRAVEL VIA THE ATLANTIC OR WITH FARES IN ANY RULE IN TARIFF FBRINPV - BETWEEN USA/CA-AREA 1/2/3 IPRA - USA/CANADA-AREA 2/3 AND GUAM-AREA 2 VIA ATLANTIC IPRAI - BETWEEN THE USA/CANADA-AREA 2/3 VIA ATLANTIC IPRSAA2 - BETWEEN THE WESTERN HEMISPHERE-AREA 2 VIA ATLANTIC IPRSAA3 - BETWEEN THE WESTERN HEMISPHERE-AREA 3 VIA ATLANTIC SA2BAR - BETWEEN THE WESTERN HEMISPHERE-AREA 2 VIA ATLANTIC SA3BAR - BETWEEN THE WESTERN HEMISPHERE-AREA 3 VIA ATLANTIC TAFPBAR - BETWEEN AREA 1-AREA 2/3 AND GUAM-AREA 2. OPEN JAWS FARES MAY BE COMBINED ON A HALF ROUND TRIP BASIS -TO FORM SINGLE OR DOUBLE OPEN JAWS. A MAXIMUM OF TWO INTERNATIONAL FARE COMPONENTS PERMITTED. MILEAGE OF THE OPEN SEGMENT MUST BE EQUAL/LESS THAN MILEAGE OF THE LONGEST FLOWN FARE COMPONENT. PROVIDED - COMBINATIONS ARE WITH ANY FARE FOR CARRIER AA IN ANY RULE IN TARIFF IPRA - USA/CANADA-AREA 2/3 AND GUAM-AREA 2 VIA ATLANTIC IPRAI - BETWEEN THE USA/CANADA-AREA 2/3 VIA ATLANTIC IPRSAA2 - BETWEEN THE WESTERN HEMISPHERE-AREA 2 VIA ATLANTIC IPRSAA3 - BETWEEN THE WESTERN HEMISPHERE-AREA 3 VIA ATLANTIC. ROUND TRIPS/CIRCLE TRIPS FARES MAY BE COMBINED ON A HALF ROUND TRIP BASIS -TO FORM ROUND TRIPS -TO FORM CIRCLE TRIPS A MAXIMUM OF 2 FARE BREAK POINTS PERMITTED. PROVIDED - COMBINATIONS ARE WITH ANY FARE FOR CARRIER AA IN ANY RULE IN TARIFF IPRA - USA/CANADA-AREA 2/3 AND GUAM-AREA 2 VIA ATLANTIC IPRAI - BETWEEN THE USA/CANADA-AREA 2/3 VIA ATLANTIC IPRSAA2 - BETWEEN THE WESTERN HEMISPHERE-AREA 2 VIA ATLANTIC IPRSAA3 - BETWEEN THE WESTERN HEMISPHERE-AREA 3 VIA ATLANTIC. NOTE - THE CITY PAIRS BELOW ARE CONSIDERED THE SAME POINT- FLL-MIA OAK-SFO OAK-SJC SFO-SJC LAX-ONT BUR-LAX LAX-LGB LAX-SNA BUR-ONT LGB-ONT ONT-SNA BUR-LGB ORF-PHF BUR-SNA LGB-SNA EWR-NYC BWI-WAS
Category 12: Surcharges
IF INFANT UNDER 02 WITHOUT A SEAT. OR - CONTRACT BULK INFANT WITHOUT A SEAT UNDER 02. OR - MILITARY INFANT WITHOUT A SEAT UNDER 02. OR - INE UNDER 02. OR - INCLUSIVE TOUR INFANT WITHOUT A SEAT UNDER 02. THERE IS NO CHARGE FOR TRAVEL PER COUPON. NOTE - SURCHARGES DO NOT APPLY TO INFANT PASSENGERS NOT OCCUPYING A SEAT. THE PROVISIONS BELOW APPLY ONLY AS FOLLOWS - TICKETS MUST BE ISSUED ON AA OR US. OR - TICKETS MUST BE ISSUED ON AA OR BA. OR - TICKETS MUST BE ISSUED ON AA OR IB. OR - TICKETS MUST BE ISSUED ON AA OR AY. OR - TICKETS MUST BE ISSUED ON AA OR JL. OR - TICKETS MUST BE ISSUED ON AA OR QF. AN AIRPORT/TERMINAL SURCHARGE OF USD 1.75 PER COUPON WILL BE ADDED TO THE APPLICABLE FARE FOR DEPARTURE FROM MEXICO. AND - THERE IS NO CHARGE FOR TRAVEL PER COUPON. NOTE - YR FEE MAY APPLY OTHERWISE AN AIRPORT/TERMINAL SURCHARGE OF USD 1.75 PER COUPON WILL BE ADDED TO THE APPLICABLE FARE FOR DEPARTURE FROM MEXICO. AND - ORIGINATING SWEDEN - A SURCHARGE OF EUR 121.00 PER COUPON WILL BE ADDED TO THE APPLICABLE FARE FOR TRANSATLANTIC SECTORS.
Category 14: Travel restrictions
VALID FOR TRAVEL COMMENCING ON/BEFORE 31AUG 18.
Category 15: Sales restrictions
TICKETS MUST BE ISSUED ON/BEFORE 04FEB 18.
Category 15: Sales restrictions
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
Category 16: Penalties
CANCELLATIONS ANY TIME TICKET IS NON-REFUNDABLE. NOTE - IN THE CASE OF THE DEATH OF THE PASSENGER/OR A TRAVELING COMPANION/ THE SERVICE CHARGE MAY BE WAIVED OR THE TICKET REFUNDED. VISIT AA.COM FOR DETAIL ---- WAIVED FOR SCHEDULE CHANGE ----------------------------------------------- WHEN COMBINING FARES THAT HAVE CANCELLATION FEES THE HIGHEST CANCELLATION FEE OF EACH OF THE CANCELLED PRICING UNITS APPLIES WITH THE FOLLOWING EXCEPTION WHEN COMBINING A REFUNDABLE FARE WITH A NON-REFUNDABLE FARE 1.THE AMOUNT PAID ON THE REFUNDABLE FARE COMPONENT IS REFUNDED LESS ANY APPLICABLE PENALTY 2.THE AMOUNT PAID ON THE NON-REFUNDABLE FARE COMPONENT WILL NOT BE REFUNDED ----------------------------------------------- REFUND OF UNUSED TAXES FEES AND CHARGES PAID TO THIRD PARTIES PERMITTED. ----------------------------------------------- FOR TRAVEL AGENCY BOOKINGS MADE IN MEXICO / THE CARIBBEAN / CENTRAL AND SOUTH AMERICA - AA WILL ASSESS A USD50.00 FEE ON ANY UNTICKETED RESERVATION NOT CANCELLED BEFORE DEPARTURE CHANGES ANY TIME CHANGES NOT PERMITTED. NOTE - A CHANGE IS A DATE/ OR FLIGHT/ OR ROUTING/ OR RESERVATION CHANGE ---------------------------------------------- WHEN COMBINING FARES THAT HAVE CHANGE FEES THE HIGHEST PENALTY OF ANY OF THE CHANGED FARE COMPONENTS APPLIES WITH THE FOLLOWING EXCEPTION WHEN COMBINING NON-CHANGEABLE FARES WITH CHANGEABLE FARES THE CHANGEABLE FARE COMPONENTS REMAIN CHANGEABLE.
Category 17: HIP exceptions
THE HIGHER INTERMEDIATE POINT RULE DOES NOT APPLY FOR CONNECTIONS. AND - THE HIGHER INTERMEDIATE POINT RULE DOES NOT APPLY FOR STOPOVERS.
Category 18: Endorsements
THE ORIGINAL AND THE REISSUED TICKET MUST BE ANNOTATED - NONREFUNDABLE - AND - RESTRICTIONS APPLY - IN THE ENDORSEMENT BOX.
Category 19: Discounts
ACCOMPANIED CHILD 2-11 - CHARGE 75 PERCENT OF THE FARE. TICKETING CODE - BASE FARE CODE PLUS CH. MUST BE ACCOMPANIED ON ALL FLIGHTS IN SAME COMPARTMENT BY ADULT OR - INFANT UNDER 2 WITH A SEAT - CHARGE 75 PERCENT OF THE FARE. TICKETING CODE - BASE FARE CODE PLUS CH. MUST BE ACCOMPANIED ON ALL FLIGHTS IN SAME COMPARTMENT BY ADULT OR - INFANT UNDER 2 WITHOUT A SEAT - CHARGE 10 PERCENT OF THE FARE. TICKETING CODE - BASE FARE CODE PLUS IN. MUST BE ACCOMPANIED ON ALL FLIGHTS IN SAME COMPARTMENT BY ADULT OR - UNACCOMPANIED CHILD 5-14 - CHARGE 100 PERCENT OF THE FARE. NOTE - UNACCOMPANIED CHILDREN 5 6 AND 7 YEARS OF AGE WILL ONLY BE TRANSPORTED OVER THE LINES OF AA NON-STOP OR THROUGH PLANE SERVICE.
Category 20: Tour Discounts
NOTE - DISCOUNTS APPLY. INFORMATION IS NOT AVAILABLE AT THIS TIME...CONTACT CARRIER FOR DETAILS. THIS RULE DOES NOT APPLY FOR TRAVEL ON OTHER AIRLINE OPERATED CODE SHARE FLIGHTS.
Category 21: Agent Discounts
NOTE - DISCOUNTS APPLY. INFORMATION IS NOT AVAILABLE AT THIS TIME. CONTACT CARRIER FOR DETAILS. THIS RULE DOES NOT APPLY FOR TRAVEL ON OTHER AIRLINE OPERATED CODE SHARE FLIGHTS.
Category 22: Other Discounts
THE PROVISIONS BELOW APPLY ONLY AS FOLLOWS - TICKETS MUST BE ISSUED ON AA. SALE IS RESTRICTED TO SPECIFIC AGENTS. FARES MAY ONLY BE SOLD BY AA AND MAY NOT BE SOLD BY TRAVEL AGENTS. PASSENGER OCCUPYING TWO SEATS. ID REQUIRED - CHARGE 100 PERCENT OF THE FARE. TICKET DESIGNATOR - SEAT. NOTE - APPLICATION--- FARES APPLY TO A PASSENGER PERMITTED THE EXCLUSIVE USE OF TWO ADJACENT SEATS. SENIOR CITIZEN 65 OR OLDER. ID REQUIRED - NO DISCOUNT. NOTE - RULE 1810 - SENIOR CITIZEN DISCOUNT DOES NOT APPLY
Category 23: Miscellaneous Fare Tags
NOTE - APPLIES ONLY FOR TRANSPORTATION TO THE FIRST CITY SHOWN - AND RETURN WHERE SHOWN IN CONNECTION WITH PUBLISHED ROUND TRIP FARES.
Category 31: Voluntary changes
IN THE EVENT OF CHANGES TO TICKETED FLIGHTS ANYTIME WITHIN TKT VALIDITY CHANGES EXCEPT RBD NOT PERMITTED TO THE FARE COMPONENT- CHARGE HIGHEST FEE OF ALL CHANGED FARE COMPONENTS.
Category 33: Voluntary cancellations
REFER TO PENALTIES CATEGORY 16
Category 50: Application
FIRST/BUSINESS CLASS TRANSATLANTIC FARES APPLICATION AREA THESE FARES APPLY FROM EUROPE TO THE UNITED STATES. CLASS OF SERVICE THESE FARES APPLY FOR FIRST/BUSINESS CLASS SERVICE. TYPES OF TRANSPORTATION FARES GOVERNED BY THIS RULE CAN BE USED TO CREATE ONE-WAY/ROUND-TRIP/CIRCLE-TRIP/OPEN-JAW JOURNEYS. THE TICKET IS INVALID IF FLIGHT COUPONS ARE NOT USED IN SEQUENCE. FARE DOES NOT APPLY FOR REFUND CALCULATION AFTER TRAVEL AT A HIGHER FARE PASSENGER EXPENCES NOT ABSORBED BY CARRIER CAPACITY LIMITATIONS THE CARRIER SHALL LIMIT THE NUMBER OF PASSENGERS CARRIED ON ANY ONE FLIGHT AT FARES GOVERNED BY THIS RULE AND SUCH FARES WILL NOT NECESSARILY BE AVAILABLE ON ALL FLIGHTS. THE NUMBER OF SEATS WHICH THE CARRIER SHALL MAKE AVAILABLE ON A GIVEN FLIGHT WILL BE DETERMINED BY THE CARRIERS BEST JUDGMENT LEVEL- ARE NOT SUBJECT TO CAPACITY CONTROL.
Many thanks to you and nufnuf77

I found the J fare for £1,722 in J in April, going Thursday-Monday, but unfortunately I can't really be away on a Friday night...so the fare basis doesn't work for me unfortunately.

That being said, I can do £1,900 with a GUF on the Intercon legs, which would add some extra TPs (and bring me to £1.66/TP) with 2 nights in hotels (NYC and HNL) leaving on a Saturday, and returning on Monday.

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Old Jan 7, 2018, 9:59 am
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Originally Posted by TPRun
Not exactly a TP run (I need to be in Prague for a wedding on Sat June 16 and thought I could do a bit of B2Bing for fun whilst I'm in LHR anyway).

is it possible here at NCL or a bad idea?

Sadly couldn't find a route through HEL to actually make it worthwhile going that way


Thanks
I don't know NCL personally, but from the b2b thread it seems fine Back-to-back / Immediate Turnarounds at BA Destinations

Also see this post https://www.flyertalk.com/forum/27970918-post1467.html
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Old Jan 7, 2018, 9:59 am
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Originally Posted by IrishStephen
Thank you so very very much
I'm booking mine direct with IB, I don't suspect there should be any issues... I could get a PNR I suppose and sort seat selection etc
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Old Jan 7, 2018, 10:05 am
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Originally Posted by KARFA
I don't know NCL personally, but from the b2b thread it seems fine Back-to-back / Immediate Turnarounds at BA Destinations

Also see this post https://www.flyertalk.com/forum/27970918-post1467.html
Thank you for that! I'm not exactly getting a great £/TP (over 2.5) for it but I thought I may as well try to secure 400 odd points before the OTP-PHX run! Thanks again
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