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BA current newsflash here / London Cancellation list for Tuesday here
Rebooking policy for operating flights on Monday and Tuesday here / EC261 main thread here
ba.com/helpme one stop shop on BA.com giving lots of advice and pointers to where to claim expenses.
For EC261, delay/cancellation compensation is not payable for this event but BA is still liable for the Regulation's “Right to care” provisions. Refreshments can be claimed after 2 hours of delay departing (3 hours for flights longer than LHR-Rome, 4 hours for longhaul), £200 guideline for hotels - OK to book your own and charge back. £50 guideline for taxis. Meals, drinks and communication costs are also covered. Keep / photo receipts. If on a Buy on Board aircraft, use Avios to buy items - it will be faster to refund. For missing baggage, it's OK to claim essential items, such as clothing, toiletries. Keep / photo the receipts.
Rebooking policy for operating flights on Monday and Tuesday here / EC261 main thread here
ba.com/helpme one stop shop on BA.com giving lots of advice and pointers to where to claim expenses.
For EC261, delay/cancellation compensation is not payable for this event but BA is still liable for the Regulation's “Right to care” provisions. Refreshments can be claimed after 2 hours of delay departing (3 hours for flights longer than LHR-Rome, 4 hours for longhaul), £200 guideline for hotels - OK to book your own and charge back. £50 guideline for taxis. Meals, drinks and communication costs are also covered. Keep / photo receipts. If on a Buy on Board aircraft, use Avios to buy items - it will be faster to refund. For missing baggage, it's OK to claim essential items, such as clothing, toiletries. Keep / photo the receipts.
Bad weather disruption - UK/AMS/NW Europe - 10 & 11 December 2017
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BA is free to set some guidelines as to hotel costs, meals and so on. However this has no basis in law. Now £300 for a hotel seems a lot to me, and personally I would move to somewhere more cost effective, but BA actually can't restrict the amount spent to £200 unless it is prepared to put in the effort to book hotels for its passengers. If a claim was made for £300 BA would readily pay £200 but you probably would need to put in considerable effort to get the rest. I do know of cases where they have (reluctantly) paid more.
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I assume that there is no general problem in Stockholm and it is only LHR which causes the issue for you? I think that as advised above, in such cases, I would encourage anyone to book the cheapest alternative and claim back indeed. EC261 suggests "rerouting on the first available flight" without specifying that it has to be on the same carrier so if the airline cannot accommodate and do this directly, I would personally do it myself and push for reimbursement. That said, having a good travel insurance 'in case' is always recommended and would reimburse the cost of the new flights following cancellation due to weather almost invariably.
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BA2762/2763 cancelled
LGW-AMS vv
weather Amsterdam (Netherlands) at the moment is really a mess, wind is also picking up.
safe travels everyone.
LGW-AMS vv
weather Amsterdam (Netherlands) at the moment is really a mess, wind is also picking up.
safe travels everyone.
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But yes, the CX lounge staff is extremely welcoming + no rustling with crisp bags.
Flight yesterday cancelled, and subsequently directed to sort ourselves out as BA had run out of hotels. Headed to central London, and got a decent rate for a hotel at £195, tried without success to rebook flights, so gave up. Have now been automatically rebooked, but flying TOMORROW, so 2 days late. Subsequently need another night at a hotel. The same hotel is now £300!! I'll be damned if I'm moving.
With regard to flight cancellations ex LHR/LCY, I've never had any issues to be reimbursed by the airlines (be it BA, WX or other ones) though in most cases my flight was among the first to be cancelled and I'd just book the cheapest chain hotel within 3 (maximum 5) miles of the airport. By 8 pm, it was impossible to book anything around LHR besides some B&Bs with no public transport options available. The Crowne Plaza was around 150£ for the night when I last saw availability. Colleagues of mine (that don't have a flat/house in London) headed to places they know: Some stayed at the Hilton Bankside. Others stayed at other Hilton properties.
I'd think that most here would do just that while still queuing somewhere waiting to be rebooked (1 phone looking at flight availability and a second one on hold with BA).
At the end of the day, the question is whether one is ready to sue BA over the incurred cost. If they just refuse to pay more than 200£/night, then you'll have to get a lawyer involved. Personnally I'd think that it seems unreasonable to me for a court to say that an overall hotel cost of 500£ for two nights would be unreasonable. That's a mere 50£/night more.
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Foolishly believed the BBC doom about icy roads, so am now at T5 2.5 hrs before departure - a record for me at LHR. Landslide was busy wth queues everywhere, but security quick and airside feels full but not chaotic. Lots of red on the screens!
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Likewise I have a very early start and 3 flights tomorrow they are still scheduled at the moment. I would just say keep checking on your flight status on ba.com regularly and be in a position you can look at alternatives as early as possible. I'd imagine the situation is a bit more fluid now, well better than it was.
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Fully agree. The default solution is that airlines have a duty of care and should organise accommodation and meals where specified by EC261. If they do not, the passenger is well within his/her rights to book a convenient alternative. I wouldn't book the Ritz and try to charge BA £1000/night, but take a decently cost-effective option in or around the airport. With the current levels of disruptions prices are bound to increase significantly, and if the best you can find is over £200, just do a printout of a hotel search engine to show that this was the option that you had and insist that BA reimburse what you paid.
Lets hope the early evening flight to LHR tomorrow fares a little better than today...
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Likewise I have a very early start and 3 flights tomorrow they are still scheduled at the moment. I would just say keep checking on your flight status on ba.com regularly and be in a position you can look at alternatives as early as possible. I'd imagine the situation is a bit more fluid now, well better than it was.
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The problem with days like today is also that hotels shoot their prices up. Hilton at Schipol was looking for £450 for a room tonight (I was looking after my AMS-LHR was cancelled). So demand and current environment play a huge part in this. 1/3 of AMS flights cancelled today - that's a lot of people looking for hotel rooms in the near vicinity.
Lets hope the early evening flight to LHR tomorrow fares a little better than today...
Lets hope the early evening flight to LHR tomorrow fares a little better than today...
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IMO depends on the dates. Hotel rates around very busy weeks can reach those levels fairly quickly. Many hotels in the city can be dirt cheap on weekends but be significantly more expensive during the week. I suspect that Trent900Powered stays either close to the City (either in the City or on the south bank across from the city) or around Canary Wharf, where prices can indeed increase dramatically on weekdays.
I'm seeing cancellations in BA.com/arrdep already, though nothing like the rate of today, thankfully. AMS remains a bad idea. If it's still in the schedule by say 20:00 hrs tonight I would imagine they'll make an effort to get you to your destination (unless it's the Low Countries that is).