1 person serving F
#76
Join Date: May 2013
Posts: 6,349
I am certainly not saying that the alternative of cancelling the flight was better. That would have caused even worse inconvenience than slow service.
However, those affected by poor service due to the strike need emphasise to BA that it doesn't mean customers are not being upset just because they are not needing to cancel the flight, and express their dissatisfaction. Otherwise it might end up carrying on bumping along.
In other words, complaints may help a tiny bit towards ending this strike.
However, those affected by poor service due to the strike need emphasise to BA that it doesn't mean customers are not being upset just because they are not needing to cancel the flight, and express their dissatisfaction. Otherwise it might end up carrying on bumping along.
In other words, complaints may help a tiny bit towards ending this strike.
#77
Join Date: May 2008
Programs: BA Gold
Posts: 15
2 crew members in First on MIA - LHR last night. Crew did an amazing job but they were having to run around like crazy. Air con didn't work on the ground (you don't need that in the Florida summer!) and IFE took ages to boot up. Gave them both Golden Tickets but I wonder what message that sent to management!
#78
Join Date: Aug 2014
Location: London
Programs: BA GGLfL, WoH Lifetime Globalist, HH Diamond, SPG Gold
Posts: 711
If the two FAs each passed on their Golden Tickets to their line manager (which is what I suppose would happen) then this would give a solid signal to management that two rather than three FAs are OK to work the First cabin. Doc Copper
#79
Join Date: Sep 2013
Programs: BAEC Gold, EK Skywards (enhanced Blue !), Oman Air Sindbad Gold
Posts: 6,399
I have visions of our leader's (BoB-style) post-strike statement already being tweaked in preparation :
"We always attach great importance to the views of our passengers, and recent feedback shows that the optimal number of crew to deliver the best possible experience in our First cabins ........"
#80
Join Date: Apr 2015
Programs: Some
Posts: 5,257
+ 1 (or, in this case, I guess we're talking minus one !)
I have visions of our leader's (BoB-style) post-strike statement already being tweaked in preparation :
"We always attach great importance to the views of our passengers, and recent feedback shows that the optimal number of crew to deliver the best possible experience in our First cabins ........"
I have visions of our leader's (BoB-style) post-strike statement already being tweaked in preparation :
"We always attach great importance to the views of our passengers, and recent feedback shows that the optimal number of crew to deliver the best possible experience in our First cabins ........"
#81
Join Date: Sep 2008
Posts: 7,875
I think many executives, if they were willing to, can actually do a good job doing entry-level work. They usually are brilliant and can learn quickly and are very efficient. But if someone is that good at the low-level they can usually rise up.
#82
Moderator: British Airways Executive Club
Join Date: Jan 2009
Programs: Battleaxe Alliance
Posts: 22,127
It seems to me that BA's thinking is that it's going OK because they're not cancelling flights but it's clearly not OK on many flights and if people don't complain, they might think it's OK to crew F with one and cut the number down permanently
#83
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Join Date: Jul 2002
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Are you saying this because you are so pro-union you cannot imagine why anybody would want to help out?
You cannot get more details. "Nature of delays" presumes you follow her around 24-7 and see exactly what she does every single second and whether or not she is the most efficient person in the world?
I think many executives, if they were willing to, can actually do a good job doing entry-level work. They usually are brilliant and can learn quickly and are very efficient. But if someone is that good at the low-level they can usually rise up.
You cannot get more details. "Nature of delays" presumes you follow her around 24-7 and see exactly what she does every single second and whether or not she is the most efficient person in the world?
I think many executives, if they were willing to, can actually do a good job doing entry-level work. They usually are brilliant and can learn quickly and are very efficient. But if someone is that good at the low-level they can usually rise up.
#84
Join Date: Jul 2005
Location: London, ARN, HEL, ..... or MAN
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Posts: 5,903
Our flight to PEK last week had at least 3 silver-tied CC. I asked the CSM if someone important was on board - he laughed and said "yes, you sir!" He then explained that they were one down on crew but the service, even in a nearly full 777-300 CW dorm, was faultless - the Chinese speaking crew seemed to almost fly up and down the aisles!!
#85
Join Date: Dec 2008
Location: London
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Had a flight to AUH last week where they were 3 crew members down, which resulted in only one CC in F.
There were only two pax booked until about 3 hours before the flight when another 5 were added [all in one party], so nearly full cabin.
Service wasn't very slow, but you could see that CC was busy most of the time, running back and forth.
On the way back they were 2 CC down, but the cabin was emptier and a lot of passengers were sleeping throughout the flight, so it was somewhat easier on the crew.
There were only two pax booked until about 3 hours before the flight when another 5 were added [all in one party], so nearly full cabin.
Service wasn't very slow, but you could see that CC was busy most of the time, running back and forth.
On the way back they were 2 CC down, but the cabin was emptier and a lot of passengers were sleeping throughout the flight, so it was somewhat easier on the crew.
#86
Ambassador, British Airways Executive Club, easyJet and Ryanair
Join Date: Sep 2011
Location: UK/Las Vegas
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I've just returned from LAS on one of those "old" planes (G-CIVT). I found the First cabin to be clean and in a good state of repair, with no obvious signs of wear and tear. The toilets were clean, there were 14 cabin crew on board with a full complement in First.
I had a rather decent 4 course dinner served by an excellent Worldwide Crew. It was a typical First experience and not unlike the vast majority of my BA long haul flights.
Now, I'm not suggesting for one minute that there aren't times when the First experience is poor or indifferent, the OP's experience was certainly a poor one. But those poor experiences are the exception and not the norm - despite what others would have us believe.
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#87
Original Poster
Join Date: Jan 2005
Posts: 928
Update
I thought I would update you all. Ignore the fact my handle name has changed, that is due to FT not being able to reset my passowrd(long story!). I am the original MANCHESTER!
A couple of days ago I got a call from BA replying to my feedback. It was a brief call where I was told they are sorry, it's all due to the strikes, they hope I will fly again with them and no I'm not getting any compo, not even a few avios to say sorry! Not surprised, but it's really made me not want to give them any more of my cash whilst they have this attitude. Am off to Miami soon and will fly someone else, even if the cost is higher or the route less convenient.
A couple of days ago I got a call from BA replying to my feedback. It was a brief call where I was told they are sorry, it's all due to the strikes, they hope I will fly again with them and no I'm not getting any compo, not even a few avios to say sorry! Not surprised, but it's really made me not want to give them any more of my cash whilst they have this attitude. Am off to Miami soon and will fly someone else, even if the cost is higher or the route less convenient.
#88
Join Date: Oct 2003
Location: London
Posts: 3,500
#90
Moderator, Iberia Airlines, Airport Lounges, and Ambassador, British Airways Executive Club
Join Date: Feb 2010
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A couple of days ago I got a call from BA replying to my feedback. It was a brief call where I was told they are sorry, it's all due to the strikes, they hope I will fly again with them and no I'm not getting any compo, not even a few avios to say sorry! Not surprised, but it's really made me not want to give them any more of my cash whilst they have this attitude. Am off to Miami soon and will fly someone else, even if the cost is higher or the route less convenient.
- CEDR
- MCOL
- Section 75 of the Consumer Credit Act
I appreciate it may be more hassle than it is worth, but if enough people did it, it may just swing the pendulum a bit over from its current position. I did detect a small amount of movement recently, but it is certainly difficult to detect in this case.