Jul 9, 2017, 11:09 am
Last edit by: Tobias-UK
This is community help desk which allows members to assist each other in finding out how many seats are available on any given flight.
If you wish to request availability for a specific flight, please state the date and origin/departure airport codes, not just the flight number.
Please also restrict requests to BA/oneworld flights - flights for other airlines may be removed to avoid cluttering the thread and taking it away from BAEC.
As of 15 Oct 2014 flightstats.com no longer displays flight availability.
Fare class availability can be queried in various ways*:
* Please update wiki if you know of any others.
** Origin of data concealed and probably unauthorised (so buyer beware)
What do the codes mean?
Suppose we have a result as F1 A0 J9 C7 D0 RC IC W9 E9 T4 Y9 BC HC ...
This means:
There is 1 seat in the F bucket for sale
There are 0 seats in the A and D bucket for sale, but you can join the waitlist in case seats get released later.
There are at least 9 seats in the J, W, E and Y buckets.
The R, I, B and H buckets are closed to waitlisting.
There are two important things to note about how to interpret these numbers that many people don't understand as it is very counter intuitive:
1) There is NO direct relation to the actual number of seats available on the specific flight. They only mean that the airline is willing to sell this many seats on that specific flight. The airline may intend to oversell seats or withhold seats from sale for many reasons.
2) In the example above, the results show W9 E9 T4 (which are all WT+ buckets). This does not mean that there are 9+9+4=22 seats for sale. Interpret these numbers as "there are at least 9 seats for sale in WT+". There could really be anywhere between 9 and 22 seats for sale - we just can't tell from the numbers the system gives us. Therefore, the conservative approach of assuming that there are at least 9 seats for sale is usually the best one.
What does the "C" mean?
Closed to waitlisting.
In the example above we have RC, IC, BC and HC. This is different to A0 and D0: The A and D buckets are "full" but you can apply to join their waitlists (if your fare permits waitlisting). With R, I, B and H you cannot even request a seat.
The carrier will determine how to confirm your seat if it wishes. Sometimes this may happen immediately, other times only a few minutes before the flight's departure. The order of the waitlist is determined by the carrier privately, but your Executive Club status will push you towards the front of the queue. Many cheap fares do not allow waitlisting.
Differences for non-BA airlines
If you wish to request availability for a specific flight, please state the date and origin/departure airport codes, not just the flight number.
Please also restrict requests to BA/oneworld flights - flights for other airlines may be removed to avoid cluttering the thread and taking it away from BAEC.
As of 15 Oct 2014 flightstats.com no longer displays flight availability.
Fare class availability can be queried in various ways*:
* Please update wiki if you know of any others.
** Origin of data concealed and probably unauthorised (so buyer beware)
What do the codes mean?
Suppose we have a result as F1 A0 J9 C7 D0 RC IC W9 E9 T4 Y9 BC HC ...
This means:
There is 1 seat in the F bucket for sale
There are 0 seats in the A and D bucket for sale, but you can join the waitlist in case seats get released later.
There are at least 9 seats in the J, W, E and Y buckets.
The R, I, B and H buckets are closed to waitlisting.
There are two important things to note about how to interpret these numbers that many people don't understand as it is very counter intuitive:
1) There is NO direct relation to the actual number of seats available on the specific flight. They only mean that the airline is willing to sell this many seats on that specific flight. The airline may intend to oversell seats or withhold seats from sale for many reasons.
2) In the example above, the results show W9 E9 T4 (which are all WT+ buckets). This does not mean that there are 9+9+4=22 seats for sale. Interpret these numbers as "there are at least 9 seats for sale in WT+". There could really be anywhere between 9 and 22 seats for sale - we just can't tell from the numbers the system gives us. Therefore, the conservative approach of assuming that there are at least 9 seats for sale is usually the best one.
What does the "C" mean?
Closed to waitlisting.
In the example above we have RC, IC, BC and HC. This is different to A0 and D0: The A and D buckets are "full" but you can apply to join their waitlists (if your fare permits waitlisting). With R, I, B and H you cannot even request a seat.
The carrier will determine how to confirm your seat if it wishes. Sometimes this may happen immediately, other times only a few minutes before the flight's departure. The order of the waitlist is determined by the carrier privately, but your Executive Club status will push you towards the front of the queue. Many cheap fares do not allow waitlisting.
Differences for non-BA airlines
- Some carriers (those using Sabre such as AA) only show a maximum of 7 available seats (not 9). Others only show a maximum of 5.
- Some carriers use "L" instead of "0" (e.g., CL DL YL) to indicate you may waitlist for the seat. This tends to happen when the entire flight is on a list basis.
Help to check BA seat availability and BA flight loads
Jan 28, 2018, 11:27 am
#1081
Join Date: Jan 2012
Location: London
Programs: BAEC : GGL; HHonors : Diamond
Posts: 181
BA93: F9 A8 J9 C0 D0 R0 I0 W9 E9 T5 Y9 B9 H9 K7 M4 L3 V0 S0 N0 Q0 O0 G9
BA98: J6 C1 D1 R0 I0 W0 E0 T0 Y9 B9 H9 K9 M7 L4 V2 S0 N0 Q0 O0 G0
Jan 28, 2018, 11:28 am
#1082
Join Date: Jan 2012
Location: London
Programs: BAEC : GGL; HHonors : Diamond
Posts: 181
Jan 28, 2018, 12:12 pm
#1083
Join Date: Jun 2013
Location: ABZ
Programs: BAEC Gold, IHG Gold
Posts: 204
Could someone kindly check BA115 LHR-JFK on Friday 2nd February?
We are in WT+ and wondering if we might get upgraded to CW?
Many Thanks!
We are in WT+ and wondering if we might get upgraded to CW?
Many Thanks!
Jan 28, 2018, 12:19 pm
#1085
Join Date: Jun 2013
Location: ABZ
Programs: BAEC Gold, IHG Gold
Posts: 204
Jan 28, 2018, 2:18 pm
#1086
Join Date: Feb 2017
Location: Glasgow
Posts: 131
Could anyone kindly check the following flights for me please?
Sun 4/2/18 - BA57 LHR-JNB
Thu 8/2/18 - BA56 JNB-LHR
Fri 9/2/18 - BA56 JNB-LHR
I know I'm pushing it with 3 requests
Sun 4/2/18 - BA57 LHR-JNB
Thu 8/2/18 - BA56 JNB-LHR
Fri 9/2/18 - BA56 JNB-LHR
I know I'm pushing it with 3 requests
Jan 28, 2018, 2:53 pm
#1087
Join Date: Jan 2012
Location: London
Programs: BAEC : GGL; HHonors : Diamond
Posts: 181
BA57: F2 A1 J9 C7 D0 R0 I0 W9 E5 T0 Y9 B9 H7 K6 M6 L6 V7 S7 N6 Q0 O0 G0
BA56: F0 A0 J0 C0 D0 R0 I0 W3 E0 T0 Y9 B9 H9 K9 M9 L9 V9 S9 N9 Q9 O9 G9
BA56: F0 A0 J9 C5 D0 R0 I0 W2 E0 T0 Y9 B9 H9 K9 M9 L9 V9 S9 N9 Q9 O9 G9
Jan 28, 2018, 3:05 pm
#1088
Join Date: Feb 2017
Location: Glasgow
Posts: 131
Thank you very much. Looking pretty much rammed on the way home.
Jan 28, 2018, 4:58 pm
#1089
FlyerTalk Evangelist
Join Date: Jan 2004
Location: Worldwide
Posts: 12,949
[KVS Tool 8.7.8/Diamond - Awards/BA-OneWorld]
Code:
OSA Osaka Metro JP = KIX ITM UKB
TYO Tokyo Metro JP = NRT HND
THU 01 Nov 2018 | 1 Seat
Carrier Flight From Depart To Arrive St Award Availability
--------- ------ ---- -------- ---- -------- --- -- ------------------
JL 102 ITM 07:10 HND 08:15 0 FS0 CS0 YS5
JL 104 ITM 07:30 HND 08:40 0 FS0 CS0 YS3
JL 3002 ITM 08:00 NRT 09:20 0 FS0 CS0 YS5
JL 106 ITM 08:30 HND 09:40 0 FS0 CS0 YS3
JL 114 ITM 11:30 HND 12:40 0 FS0 CS0 YS5
JL 116 ITM 12:30 HND 13:40 0 FS0 CS0 YS5
JL 118 ITM 13:30 HND 14:40 0 FS0 CS0 YS5
JL 120 ITM 14:30 HND 15:40 0 FS0 CS0 YS5
JL 224 KIX 14:45 HND 15:55 0 FS0 CS0 YS2
JL 124 ITM 15:30 HND 16:40 0 FS0 CS0 YS5
JL 126 ITM 16:30 HND 17:40 0 FS0 CS0 YS5
JL 138 ITM 20:25 HND 21:35 0 FS0 CS0 YS5
JL 228 KIX 21:15 HND 22:25 0 FS0 CS0 YS2
JL 2001 ITM 08:10 CTS 10:00 0 FS0 CS0 YS5
-> JL 506 CTS 11:00 HND 12:40 0 FS0 CS0 YS+
JL 2501 KIX 09:30 CTS 11:20 0 FS0 CS0 YS5
-> JL 508 CTS 12:00 HND 13:40 0 FS0 CS0 YS+
JL 2501 KIX 09:30 CTS 11:20 0 FS0 CS0 YS5
-> JL 510 CTS 13:00 HND 14:40 0 FS0 CS0 YS+
JL 2005 ITM 10:15 CTS 12:05 0 FS0 CS0 YS5
-> JL 510 CTS 13:00 HND 14:40 0 FS0 CS0 YS+
JL 2503 KIX 13:55 CTS 15:45 0 FS0 CS0 YS3
-> JL 518 CTS 17:00 HND 18:40 0 FS0 CS0 YS+
JL 2503 KIX 13:55 CTS 15:45 0 FS0 CS0 YS2
-> JL 520 CTS 17:15 HND 18:55 0 FS0 CS0 YS+
JL 2009 ITM 15:20 CTS 17:10 0 FS0 CS0 YS5
-> JL 522 CTS 18:00 HND 19:40 0 FS0 CS0 YS+
JL 2505 KIX 15:45 CTS 17:35 0 FS0 CS0 YS5
-> JL 522 CTS 18:00 HND 19:40 0 FS0 CS0 YS+
JL 2505 KIX 15:45 CTS 17:35 0 FS0 CS0 YS5
-> JL 524 CTS 19:00 HND 20:40 0 FS0 CS0 YS+
JL 2019 ITM 19:10 CTS 21:00 0 FS0 CS0 YS2
-> JL 530 CTS 21:20 HND 23:00 0 FS0 CS0 YS+
Jan 28, 2018, 10:57 pm
#1090
Join Date: Oct 2015
Location: UK
Programs: BA EC
Posts: 524
Kindly request the loading and seat map from EF for CX 161 on 30/Jan. thanks !
Jan 29, 2018, 1:20 am
#1091
Join Date: Feb 2011
Location: London
Programs: BA Silver, ZSL Silver
Posts: 2,562
Jan 29, 2018, 4:48 am
#1093
Join Date: Oct 2006
Location: London
Programs: Many. Too many. I came here to cut them down. I failed.
Posts: 2,999
See my post in the CX A350 thread on the CX forum. Seems to be a bit of an issue at the moment - HKG-MAN flight wide open, no seats available at OLCI, was resolved by contacting them on twitter with my preferred seating option.
Jan 29, 2018, 7:19 am
#1094
Join Date: Jun 2013
Programs: BA Silver, Honors Gold
Posts: 169
There is no Award Availability on those flights on 23 Apr, but there is on other dates:
[KVS Tool 8.7.8/Diamond - Awards/BA-OneWorld]
[KVS Tool 8.7.8/Diamond - Awards/BA-OneWorld]
Code:
OSA Osaka Metro JP = KIX ITM UKB
TYO Tokyo Metro JP = NRT HND
THU 01 Nov 2018 1 Seat
Carrier Flight From Depart To Arrive St Award Availability
--------- ------ ---- -------- ---- -------- --- -- ------------------
JL 102 ITM 07:10 HND 08:15 0 FS0 CS0 YS5
JL 104 ITM 07:30 HND 08:40 0 FS0 CS0 YS3
JL 3002 ITM 08:00 NRT 09:20 0 FS0 CS0 YS5
JL 106 ITM 08:30 HND 09:40 0 FS0 CS0 YS3
JL 114 ITM 11:30 HND 12:40 0 FS0 CS0 YS5
JL 116 ITM 12:30 HND 13:40 0 FS0 CS0 YS5
JL 118 ITM 13:30 HND 14:40 0 FS0 CS0 YS5
JL 120 ITM 14:30 HND 15:40 0 FS0 CS0 YS5
JL 224 KIX 14:45 HND 15:55 0 FS0 CS0 YS2
JL 124 ITM 15:30 HND 16:40 0 FS0 CS0 YS5
JL 126 ITM 16:30 HND 17:40 0 FS0 CS0 YS5
JL 138 ITM 20:25 HND 21:35 0 FS0 CS0 YS5
JL 228 KIX 21:15 HND 22:25 0 FS0 CS0 YS2
JL 2001 ITM 08:10 CTS 10:00 0 FS0 CS0 YS5
-> JL 506 CTS 11:00 HND 12:40 0 FS0 CS0 YS+
JL 2501 KIX 09:30 CTS 11:20 0 FS0 CS0 YS5
-> JL 508 CTS 12:00 HND 13:40 0 FS0 CS0 YS+
JL 2501 KIX 09:30 CTS 11:20 0 FS0 CS0 YS5
-> JL 510 CTS 13:00 HND 14:40 0 FS0 CS0 YS+
JL 2005 ITM 10:15 CTS 12:05 0 FS0 CS0 YS5
-> JL 510 CTS 13:00 HND 14:40 0 FS0 CS0 YS+
JL 2503 KIX 13:55 CTS 15:45 0 FS0 CS0 YS3
-> JL 518 CTS 17:00 HND 18:40 0 FS0 CS0 YS+
JL 2503 KIX 13:55 CTS 15:45 0 FS0 CS0 YS2
-> JL 520 CTS 17:15 HND 18:55 0 FS0 CS0 YS+
JL 2009 ITM 15:20 CTS 17:10 0 FS0 CS0 YS5
-> JL 522 CTS 18:00 HND 19:40 0 FS0 CS0 YS+
JL 2505 KIX 15:45 CTS 17:35 0 FS0 CS0 YS5
-> JL 522 CTS 18:00 HND 19:40 0 FS0 CS0 YS+
JL 2505 KIX 15:45 CTS 17:35 0 FS0 CS0 YS5
-> JL 524 CTS 19:00 HND 20:40 0 FS0 CS0 YS+
JL 2019 ITM 19:10 CTS 21:00 0 FS0 CS0 YS2
-> JL 530 CTS 21:20 HND 23:00 0 FS0 CS0 YS+
Hi KVS
You write "There is no Award Availability on those flights on 23 Apr" - but for clarity, precisely what 'flights' are you referring to?
There is an abundance of award availability on the ITM-HND flights all day on 23APR (BA.COM confirms this, showing a minimum of 3-5 seats on most flights)
We already know there is no availability on JL3002 (ITM-NRT) on 23APR - and we also know there is availability for JL3002 on other days of the year e.g. 17APR, 8MAY etc etc
Thereafter, I'm not sure what your latest post was hoping to add, or am I missing something?
Thanks
Jan 29, 2018, 12:31 pm
#1095
Join Date: Sep 2007
Location: ORD
Programs: UA MM, AA PPro
Posts: 1,480
Most likely, the flights to NRT that you asked about. Many (most? all?) award search tools do not show ("skip") flights with no award availability.