Jul 9, 2017, 11:09 am
Last edit by: Tobias-UK
This is community help desk which allows members to assist each other in finding out how many seats are available on any given flight.
If you wish to request availability for a specific flight, please state the date and origin/departure airport codes, not just the flight number.
Please also restrict requests to BA/oneworld flights - flights for other airlines may be removed to avoid cluttering the thread and taking it away from BAEC.
As of 15 Oct 2014 flightstats.com no longer displays flight availability.
Fare class availability can be queried in various ways*:
* Please update wiki if you know of any others.
** Origin of data concealed and probably unauthorised (so buyer beware)
What do the codes mean?
Suppose we have a result as F1 A0 J9 C7 D0 RC IC W9 E9 T4 Y9 BC HC ...
This means:
There is 1 seat in the F bucket for sale
There are 0 seats in the A and D bucket for sale, but you can join the waitlist in case seats get released later.
There are at least 9 seats in the J, W, E and Y buckets.
The R, I, B and H buckets are closed to waitlisting.
There are two important things to note about how to interpret these numbers that many people don't understand as it is very counter intuitive:
1) There is NO direct relation to the actual number of seats available on the specific flight. They only mean that the airline is willing to sell this many seats on that specific flight. The airline may intend to oversell seats or withhold seats from sale for many reasons.
2) In the example above, the results show W9 E9 T4 (which are all WT+ buckets). This does not mean that there are 9+9+4=22 seats for sale. Interpret these numbers as "there are at least 9 seats for sale in WT+". There could really be anywhere between 9 and 22 seats for sale - we just can't tell from the numbers the system gives us. Therefore, the conservative approach of assuming that there are at least 9 seats for sale is usually the best one.
What does the "C" mean?
Closed to waitlisting.
In the example above we have RC, IC, BC and HC. This is different to A0 and D0: The A and D buckets are "full" but you can apply to join their waitlists (if your fare permits waitlisting). With R, I, B and H you cannot even request a seat.
The carrier will determine how to confirm your seat if it wishes. Sometimes this may happen immediately, other times only a few minutes before the flight's departure. The order of the waitlist is determined by the carrier privately, but your Executive Club status will push you towards the front of the queue. Many cheap fares do not allow waitlisting.
Differences for non-BA airlines
If you wish to request availability for a specific flight, please state the date and origin/departure airport codes, not just the flight number.
Please also restrict requests to BA/oneworld flights - flights for other airlines may be removed to avoid cluttering the thread and taking it away from BAEC.
As of 15 Oct 2014 flightstats.com no longer displays flight availability.
Fare class availability can be queried in various ways*:
* Please update wiki if you know of any others.
** Origin of data concealed and probably unauthorised (so buyer beware)
What do the codes mean?
Suppose we have a result as F1 A0 J9 C7 D0 RC IC W9 E9 T4 Y9 BC HC ...
This means:
There is 1 seat in the F bucket for sale
There are 0 seats in the A and D bucket for sale, but you can join the waitlist in case seats get released later.
There are at least 9 seats in the J, W, E and Y buckets.
The R, I, B and H buckets are closed to waitlisting.
There are two important things to note about how to interpret these numbers that many people don't understand as it is very counter intuitive:
1) There is NO direct relation to the actual number of seats available on the specific flight. They only mean that the airline is willing to sell this many seats on that specific flight. The airline may intend to oversell seats or withhold seats from sale for many reasons.
2) In the example above, the results show W9 E9 T4 (which are all WT+ buckets). This does not mean that there are 9+9+4=22 seats for sale. Interpret these numbers as "there are at least 9 seats for sale in WT+". There could really be anywhere between 9 and 22 seats for sale - we just can't tell from the numbers the system gives us. Therefore, the conservative approach of assuming that there are at least 9 seats for sale is usually the best one.
What does the "C" mean?
Closed to waitlisting.
In the example above we have RC, IC, BC and HC. This is different to A0 and D0: The A and D buckets are "full" but you can apply to join their waitlists (if your fare permits waitlisting). With R, I, B and H you cannot even request a seat.
The carrier will determine how to confirm your seat if it wishes. Sometimes this may happen immediately, other times only a few minutes before the flight's departure. The order of the waitlist is determined by the carrier privately, but your Executive Club status will push you towards the front of the queue. Many cheap fares do not allow waitlisting.
Differences for non-BA airlines
- Some carriers (those using Sabre such as AA) only show a maximum of 7 available seats (not 9). Others only show a maximum of 5.
- Some carriers use "L" instead of "0" (e.g., CL DL YL) to indicate you may waitlist for the seat. This tends to happen when the entire flight is on a list basis.
Help to check BA seat availability and BA flight loads
Jan 29, 2018, 12:44 pm
#1096
Join Date: Jun 2013
Programs: BA Silver, Honors Gold
Posts: 169
Ah, that "skip" word from an earlier post! On reflection a bad choice I agree! What I simply meant was...why is there so much availability on the ITM-HND route and none (or very little) on the ITM-NRT. Anyways....thanks to everyone for great feedback!
Jan 29, 2018, 1:42 pm
#1097
Join Date: Sep 2007
Location: ORD
Programs: UA MM, AA PPro
Posts: 1,480
Good luck hunting that award space!
Jan 29, 2018, 5:15 pm
#1098
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Code:
A | D | G | K 11 -E -E -E -E [=] [L] [G] [S] 12 - - - - 13 14 15 - - - - 16 - - - - 17 - - - - 18 - -E - - 19 +XE [G] -E 20 [L] +EI +EI [=] [G] 21 +XE +X - -E [=] 22 - - +X - 23 - +X +X - [+] Available [-] Unavailable [X] Blocked [E] Elite [P] Premium [$] Chargeable [R] Rear-Facing [%] Recline Limit [I] Infant Bassinet [V] Keep Vacant [F] Crew [M] Missing Window [>] Exit Row [W] Wing Row [=] Bulkhead Row [L] Lavatory [G] Galley [C] Closet/Storage [|] Aisle [^] Upper Deck [S] Stairs
Code:
A C | D E F G | H K 30 - -I - +X +X - -I - [W] [=] 31 -E -E -E - + -E -E -E [W] 32 - - - + - - - - [W] 33 - -E - +X - - -E - [W] [+] Available [-] Unavailable [X] Blocked [E] Elite [P] Premium [$] Chargeable [R] Rear-Facing [%] Recline Limit [I] Infant Bassinet [V] Keep Vacant [F] Crew [M] Missing Window [>] Exit Row [W] Wing Row [=] Bulkhead Row [L] Lavatory [G] Galley [C] Closet/Storage [|] Aisle [^] Upper Deck [S] Stairs
Code:
A B C | D E G | H J K 39 - +XI - - - -I - [W] [=] 40 - - +XPE$ -E - -E +XPE$ - - [W] 41 - - - - +X - - - - [W] 42 - - - +X - [L] [W] [L] 43 -P$ -P$ -P$ -I - +XI +XP$ +XP$ +XP$ [W] [>] [=] 44 - - - - +X +X - +X +X [W] 45 - - - - - - - - - [W] 46 - - - - - - - - - [W] 47 - - - - - - +X +X - [W] 48 - - - - - - - - - [W] 49 - - - - - - - - - [W] 50 - - - - - - +X +X - 51 - - - - +X +X +X +X +X 52 +X +X - - - - - - - 53 - - - +X +X +X -E -E +XE 54 - - - +X +X - -E +XE +XE 55 -E +XE -E +X +X +X +XE +XE +XE 56 -E +XE +XE 57 -E -E -E [G] [G] 59 - +XP$ +XP$ [G] +XP$ +XP$ - [>] 60 -E - - - - -I +X +X +XE [=] 61 -E - - +X - - +X +X +XE 62 - - +X +X - - - +X +X 63 - - - - +X - - - - 64 - -X - - - - - - - 65 - - +X - - - +X +X +X 66 - - +X - +X - - - - 67 - - - - +X +X - - - 68 +X +X +X +X +X - +X +X +X 69 +X +X - - - - - +X - 70 +X +X +X +X +X +X - +X +X 71 - -E +X +X - -E - 72 [L] [L] +X +X -E [L] [L] [G] [S] [+] Available [-] Unavailable [X] Blocked [E] Elite [P] Premium [$] Chargeable [R] Rear-Facing [%] Recline Limit [I] Infant Bassinet [V] Keep Vacant [F] Crew [M] Missing Window [>] Exit Row [W] Wing Row [=] Bulkhead Row [L] Lavatory [G] Galley [C] Closet/Storage [|] Aisle [^] Upper Deck [S] Stairs
Feb 1, 2018, 1:18 am
#1099
Join Date: Jan 2018
Location: London
Programs: BAEC Gold, Accor Live Limitless Gold, Hilton Honours Gold, Avis Preferred Plus
Posts: 1,807
Good morning everybody,
Would somebody please be able to provide availability for BA132 on 8/2/18? It seems to be completely unbookable whilst most other flights have many tickets available!
Many thanks,
Would somebody please be able to provide availability for BA132 on 8/2/18? It seems to be completely unbookable whilst most other flights have many tickets available!
Many thanks,
Feb 1, 2018, 1:36 am
#1100
Join Date: Feb 2011
Location: London
Programs: BA Silver, ZSL Silver
Posts: 2,554
Can I just ask the route - is it JED-LHR you want? Just FYI, it's helpful to give the airports as well as the flight number, as otherwise we need to look it up. It does not look like the flight is running that day from EF or ba.com.
Feb 1, 2018, 1:40 am
#1101
Join Date: Jan 2018
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Programs: BAEC Gold, Accor Live Limitless Gold, Hilton Honours Gold, Avis Preferred Plus
Posts: 1,807
Many thanks
Feb 1, 2018, 2:35 am
#1102
Join Date: Feb 2011
Location: London
Programs: BA Silver, ZSL Silver
Posts: 2,554
Feb 1, 2018, 3:42 am
#1103
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Join Date: Jan 2004
Location: Worldwide
Posts: 12,949
[KVS Tool 8.7.8/Diamond - Timetable]
Code:
JED Jeddah King Abdulaziz Intl SA [OEJN]
LON London Metro UK = LHR LGW STN LTN LCY SEN QQS ZLS XQE QQP
MON 05 Feb 2018 - 11 Feb 2018
Carrier Flight From Depart To Arrive A/C St Frequency | Dur'n | Dep T | Arr T | Meals | Miles Kms | Codeshare
--------- ------ ---- -------- ---- -------- --- -- -------------------------------------------------------------------
SV 113 JED 02:10 LHR 05:45 77W 0 -2-45-- 06:35 S 4 M 2954 4754
BA 132 JED 09:05 LHR 13:00 777 0 123-567 06:55 N 5 M 2954 4754
SV 115 JED 13:20 LHR 16:55 77W 0 1-3--67 06:35 S 4 M 2954 4754
RJ 705 JED 07:00 AMM 08:00 321 0 -2-4567 09:10 N - S 722 1162
-> BA 146 AMM 09:20 LHR 13:10 321 0 - 5 M 2291 3687
RJ 705 JED 07:00 AMM 08:00 E95 0 1234567 10:45 N - S 722 1162
-> RJ 111 AMM 11:20 LHR 14:45 321 0 - 3 HM 2291 3687
RJ 709 JED 09:10 AMM 10:10 E95 0 ---4-6- 08:35 N - S 722 1162
-> RJ 111 AMM 11:20 LHR 14:45 787 0 - 3 HM 2291 3687
A3 947 JED 03:45 ATH 06:15 320 0 1---5-- 09:20 N - 1444 2324
-> BA 631 ATH 08:00 LHR 10:05 320 0 - 5 FFP 1510 2430
GF 174 JED 21:30 BAH 23:30 320 0 ---4--- 11:25 N - S 791 1273
-> BA 124 BAH 01:30 +1 LHR 05:55 +1 777 0 - 5 M 3169 5100
ME 365 JED 13:25 BEY 14:55 320 0 1234567 10:25 N - HM 869 1399
-> ME 203 BEY 17:35 LHR 20:50 320 0 - 3 HM 2166 3486
MS 666 JED 06:30 CAI 07:45 330 0 ----5-- 09:05 N 3 M 757 1218
-> MS 777 CAI 09:10 LHR 12:35 773 0 3 2 M 2198 3537
SV 335 JED 13:00 CAI 14:20 330 0 ---456- 11:00 S 2 M 757 1218
-> MS 779 CAI 17:30 LHR 21:00 738 0 3 2 M 2198 3537
SV 127 JED 04:15 CDG 08:30 77W 0 1234567 09:20 S 2C M 2754 4432
-> AF 1580 CDG 10:05 LHR 10:35 319 0 2E 4 216 348
SV 201 JED 10:20 FCO 13:40 320 0 -----6- 09:05 S 3 M 2092 3367
-> BA 555 FCO 14:40 LHR 16:25 321 0 3 5 FFP 898 1445
LH 599 JED 02:35 FRA 06:30 333 0 123-5-7 08:45 N 1 M 2570 4136
-> BA 901 FRA 07:30 LHR 08:20 319 0 2 5 FFP 407 655
LH 599 JED 02:35 FRA 06:30 333 0 123-5-- 09:55 N 1 M 2570 4136
-> LH 928 FRA 09:05 LCY 09:30 E90 0 1 - S 386 621
SV 167 JED 10:35 FRA 14:45 320 0 1---5-- 09:05 S 2 M 2570 4136
-> LH 934 FRA 16:15 LCY 16:40 E90 0 1 - S 386 621
SV 167 JED 10:35 FRA 14:45 320 0 1---56- 10:10 S 2 M 2570 4136
-> LH 916 FRA 17:00 LHR 17:45 32A 0 1 2 S 407 655
SV 237 JED 09:30 GVA 13:40 320 0 --3-5-7 09:40 S 1 M 2513 4044
-> BA 731 GVA 15:25 LHR 16:10 320 0 1 5 FFP 469 755
SV 237 JED 09:30 GVA 13:40 320 0 ------7 10:05 S 1 M 2513 4044
-> BA 2284 GVA 16:00 LCY 16:35 E90 0 1 - S 456 734
SV 237 JED 09:30 GVA 13:40 320 0 ----5-- 11:10 S 1 M 2513 4044
-> BA 2741 GVA 17:00 LGW 17:40 319 0 1 S FFP 445 716
TK 95 JED 02:55 IST 06:50 321 0 1234567 09:25 N I M 1465 2358
-> TK 1981 IST 08:05 LGW 09:20 73J 0 I S M 1546 2488
TK 95 JED 02:55 IST 06:50 321 0 1234567 09:55 N I M 1465 2358
-> TK 1979 IST 08:40 LHR 09:50 333 0 I 2 M 1563 2515
SV 265 JED 06:30 IST 10:25 330 0 123--67 09:00 S I M 1465 2358
-> KK 2001 IST 11:25 STN 12:30 320 0 D - M 1543 2483
SV 265 JED 06:30 IST 10:25 333 0 -----6- 11:20 S I M 1465 2358
-> TK 1989 IST 13:30 LHR 14:50 321 0 I 2 M 1563 2515
TK 97 JED 06:50 IST 10:55 332 0 1234567 10:55 N I M 1465 2358
-> TK 1985 IST 13:40 LHR 14:45 77W 0 I 2 M 1563 2515
SV 257 JED 09:20 IST 13:15 330 0 12-4567 09:55 S I M 1465 2358
-> TK 1971 IST 15:00 LHR 16:15 333 0 I 2 M 1563 2515
SV 113 JED 02:10 LHR 05:45 77W 0 -2-45-- 08:39 S 4 M 2954 4754
-> 9B 5395 LHR 07:27 QQP 07:49 TRN 0 TN - 13 21
SV 113 JED 02:10 LHR 05:45 77W 0 -2-45-- 09:15 S 4 M 2954 4754
-> 9B 198 LHR 07:30 LTN 08:25 BUS 0 TN - 28 45
SV 113 JED 02:10 LHR 05:45 77W 0 -2-45-- 10:10 S 4 M 2954 4754
-> 9B 253 LHR 07:45 STN 09:20 BUS 0 TN - 41 66
BA 132 JED 09:05 LHR 13:00 777 0 123-567 08:43 N 5 M 2954 4754
-> 9G 76 LHR 14:33 QQP 14:48 TRN 0 TN - 13 21
BA 132 JED 09:05 LHR 13:00 777 0 123-567 10:15 N 5 M 2954 4754
-> 9B 245 LHR 15:30 LTN 16:20 BUS 0 TN - 28 45
BA 132 JED 09:05 LHR 13:00 777 0 123-567 11:10 N 5 M 2954 4754
-> 9B 263 LHR 15:45 STN 17:15 BUS 0 TN - 41 66
SV 115 JED 13:20 LHR 16:55 77W 0 1-3--6- 08:29 S 4 M 2954 4754
-> 9B 5139 LHR 18:27 QQP 18:49 TRN 0 TN - 13 21
SV 115 JED 13:20 LHR 16:55 77W 0 ------7 08:49 S 4 M 2954 4754
-> 9B 5688 LHR 18:48 QQP 19:09 TRN 0 TN - 13 21
SV 115 JED 13:20 LHR 16:55 77W 0 1-3--67 09:30 S 4 M 2954 4754
-> 9B 246 LHR 19:00 LTN 19:50 BUS 0 TN - 28 45
SV 115 JED 13:20 LHR 16:55 77W 0 1-3--67 10:15 S 4 M 2954 4754
-> 9B 571 LHR 19:05 STN 20:35 BUS 0 TN - 41 66
SV 115 JED 13:20 LHR 16:55 77W 0 1-3--67 10:20 S 4 M 2954 4754
-> 9B 115 LHR 19:00 LGW 20:40 BUS 0 TN S 26 42
SV 213 JED 03:15 MXP 07:00 320 0 -2--5-- 11:10 S 1 M 2385 3838
-> AZ 216 LIN 10:30 LCY 11:25 E90 0 - - R 594 956
SV 227 JED 08:45 MAD 13:10 789 0 -2--5-7 10:35 S 1 M 2810 4522
-> UX 1015 MAD 15:00 LGW 16:20 73H 0 1 S FFP 754 1213
SV 123 JED 04:45 MAN 08:30 789 0 -234-67 09:20 S 2 M 3084 4963
-> BA 1389 MAN 09:55 LHR 11:05 320 0 3 5 FFP 151 243
SV 175 JED 03:15 MUC 07:05 320 0 ---4--7 10:10 S 1 M 2384 3837
-> LH 2472 MUC 09:20 LHR 10:25 32A 0 2 2 S 586 943
SV 127 JED 04:15 CDG 08:30 77W 0 12345-- 10:45 S 2C M 2754 4432
-> BA 8754 ORY 11:40 LCY 12:00 E70 0 W - S 218 351
SV 1048 JED 21:00 RUH 22:35 330 0 1234567 11:25 S 5 M 530 853
-> BA 262 RUH 01:05 +1 LHR 05:25 +1 777 0 1 5 M 3073 4946
XY 62 JED 22:00 RUH 23:35 320 0 12--567 10:25 S 5 M 530 853
-> BA 262 RUH 01:05 +1 LHR 05:25 +1 777 0 1 5 M 3073 4946
SV 1050 JED 22:00 RUH 23:35 773 0 ---4-6- 11:25 S 5 M 530 853
-> SV 107 RUH 02:15 +1 LHR 06:25 +1 773 0 2 4 M 3073 4946
TK 159 JED 03:20 SAW 07:10 320 0 1-3456- 11:25 N - M 1449 2332
-> TK 1963 SAW 10:35 LGW 11:45 73H 0 - S M 1570 2527
TU 714 JED 03:25 TUN 06:40 332 0 1-34--- 09:25 N M 2024 3257
-> TU 790 TUN 08:05 LGW 09:50 320 0 M S 1114 1793
Feb 1, 2018, 12:27 pm
#1104
Join Date: Aug 2013
Location: London
Programs: BAEC Gold, Mucci: Classe de la Luxe Eternelle
Posts: 817
Could someone please check BA2644 LGW - Malta please - Sun 11 and Mon 12th of Feb. Some interpretation of the results would be welcome too..
Hoping for a last minute reward seat on either of these flights but selling class seems to be Y and I've just realised it will be half term.. oh dear.
Thank you!
Hoping for a last minute reward seat on either of these flights but selling class seems to be Y and I've just realised it will be half term.. oh dear.
Thank you!
Feb 1, 2018, 12:32 pm
#1105
Join Date: Jan 2012
Location: London
Programs: BAEC : GGL; HHonors : Diamond
Posts: 181
Could someone please check BA2644 LGW - Malta please - Sun 11 and Mon 12th of Feb. Some interpretation of the results would be welcome too..
Hoping for a last minute reward seat on either of these flights but selling class seems to be Y and I've just realised it will be half term.. oh dear.
Thank you!
Hoping for a last minute reward seat on either of these flights but selling class seems to be Y and I've just realised it will be half term.. oh dear.
Thank you!
Monday: J1 C1 D1 R0 I0 Y2 B1 H0 K0 M0 L0 V0 N0 Q0 O0 S0 G0
Looks unlikely I would say.
*edit* you can use www.baredemptionfinder.com to help find reward seats.
Feb 5, 2018, 1:16 pm
#1106
Join Date: Mar 2009
Location: London
Programs: BAEC Silver, Priority Club Gold, Herts Pres Circle
Posts: 492
Sorry about posting here but the premium fare deals is a bit quiet and was hoping someone with EF access could do me a big favour as my account is now basic.
Could someone tell me when the fare on this thread is available until?
Sky Team: Fra-Ord/Jfk €1400
Thanks
Matt
Could someone tell me when the fare on this thread is available until?
Sky Team: Fra-Ord/Jfk €1400
Thanks
Matt
Feb 5, 2018, 3:23 pm
#1107
Join Date: Jan 2012
Location: London
Programs: BAEC : GGL; HHonors : Diamond
Posts: 181
Sorry about posting here but the premium fare deals is a bit quiet and was hoping someone with EF access could do me a big favour as my account is now basic.
Could someone tell me when the fare on this thread is available until?
Sky Team: Fra-Ord/Jfk €1400
Thanks
Matt
Could someone tell me when the fare on this thread is available until?
Sky Team: Fra-Ord/Jfk €1400
Thanks
Matt
That should be easy to check with ITA Matrix. Put in a search that returns the required fare and then click on the 'rules' link in the 'where to buy' section that is shown with the price breakdown.
Matrix - ITA Software by Google
Hope that helps!
Feb 5, 2018, 3:29 pm
#1108
Join Date: Aug 2015
Programs: BA Gold/ Star Alliance Gold
Posts: 401
Hi there,
Can anybody help me to check loads for
BA11 LHR - SIN Friday, Feb 9 (Departure 7:05 pm )
Many thanks!
Can anybody help me to check loads for
BA11 LHR - SIN Friday, Feb 9 (Departure 7:05 pm )
Many thanks!
Feb 5, 2018, 3:40 pm
#1109
Join Date: Jan 2012
Location: London
Programs: BAEC : GGL; HHonors : Diamond
Posts: 181
BA11:
F1 A0 J9 C0 D0 R0 I0 W4 E0 T0 Y0 B0 H0 K0 M0 L0 V0 S0 N0 Q0 O0 G0
for info BA15, which leaves at 9:45 pm are below:
F7 A6 J7 C0 D0 R0 I0 W1 E0 T0 Y4 B0 H0 K0 M0 L0 V0 S0 N0 Q0 O0 G0