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This is community help desk which allows members to assist each other in finding out how many seats are available on any given flight.

If you wish to request availability for a specific flight, please state the date and origin/departure airport codes, not just the flight number.

Please also restrict requests to BA/oneworld flights - flights for other airlines may be removed to avoid cluttering the thread and taking it away from BAEC.


As of 15 Oct 2014 flightstats.com no longer displays flight availability.

Fare class availability can be queried in various ways*:
* Please update wiki if you know of any others.
** Origin of data concealed and probably unauthorised (so buyer beware)


What do the codes mean?
Suppose we have a result as F1 A0 J9 C7 D0 RC IC W9 E9 T4 Y9 BC HC ...

This means:
There is 1 seat in the F bucket for sale
There are 0 seats in the A and D bucket for sale, but you can join the waitlist in case seats get released later.
There are at least 9 seats in the J, W, E and Y buckets.
The R, I, B and H buckets are closed to waitlisting.

There are two important things to note about how to interpret these numbers that many people don't understand as it is very counter intuitive:
1) There is NO direct relation to the actual number of seats available on the specific flight. They only mean that the airline is willing to sell this many seats on that specific flight. The airline may intend to oversell seats or withhold seats from sale for many reasons.

2) In the example above, the results show W9 E9 T4 (which are all WT+ buckets). This does not mean that there are 9+9+4=22 seats for sale. Interpret these numbers as "there are at least 9 seats for sale in WT+". There could really be anywhere between 9 and 22 seats for sale - we just can't tell from the numbers the system gives us. Therefore, the conservative approach of assuming that there are at least 9 seats for sale is usually the best one.


What does the "C" mean?
Closed to waitlisting.
In the example above we have RC, IC, BC and HC. This is different to A0 and D0: The A and D buckets are "full" but you can apply to join their waitlists (if your fare permits waitlisting). With R, I, B and H you cannot even request a seat.

The carrier will determine how to confirm your seat if it wishes. Sometimes this may happen immediately, other times only a few minutes before the flight's departure. The order of the waitlist is determined by the carrier privately, but your Executive Club status will push you towards the front of the queue. Many cheap fares do not allow waitlisting.


Differences for non-BA airlines
  • Some carriers (those using Sabre such as AA) only show a maximum of 7 available seats (not 9). Others only show a maximum of 5.
  • Some carriers use "L" instead of "0" (e.g., CL DL YL) to indicate you may waitlist for the seat. This tends to happen when the entire flight is on a list basis.
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Old Jan 28, 18, 11:27 am
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Originally Posted by LondonCanuck View Post
Could someone please check loads for BA93 (LHR-YYZ) on Feb 2, and BA98 (YYZ-LHR) on Feb 10th?

Many thanks in advance!

LondonCanuck
Sure, here they are:

BA93: F9 A8 J9 C0 D0 R0 I0 W9 E9 T5 Y9 B9 H9 K7 M4 L3 V0 S0 N0 Q0 O0 G9
BA98: J6 C1 D1 R0 I0 W0 E0 T0 Y9 B9 H9 K9 M7 L4 V2 S0 N0 Q0 O0 G0
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Old Jan 28, 18, 11:28 am
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Originally Posted by BoeBus View Post
A request please, for Mon 29th Jan's LHR-OSL BA0766

Many thanks!
Here you go:

​​​​​​J4 C2 D1 R0 I0 Y9 B0 H0 K0 M0 L0 V0 N0 Q0 O0 S0 G9
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Old Jan 28, 18, 12:12 pm
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Could someone kindly check BA115 LHR-JFK on Friday 2nd February?
We are in WT+ and wondering if we might get upgraded to CW?

Many Thanks!
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Old Jan 28, 18, 12:16 pm
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Originally Posted by w3andw4d View Post
Could someone kindly check BA115 LHR-JFK on Friday 2nd February?
We are in WT+ and wondering if we might get upgraded to CW?

Many Thanks!
F6 A5 J9 C1 D0 R0 I0 W9 E0 T0 Y9 B9 H9 K7 M4 L1 V1 S1 N1 Q9 O9 G9

(WT+ bolded for your convenience)

I wouldn't count on an op-up based on current loads.
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Old Jan 28, 18, 12:19 pm
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Originally Posted by legalalien View Post
F6 A5 J9 C1 D0 R0 I0 W9 E0 T0 Y9 B9 H9 K7 M4 L1 V1 S1 N1 Q9 O9 G9

(WT+ bolded for your convenience)

I wouldn't count on an op-up based on current loads.
Thanks for your speedy reply, much appreciated!
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Old Jan 28, 18, 2:18 pm
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Could anyone kindly check the following flights for me please?

Sun 4/2/18 - BA57 LHR-JNB
Thu 8/2/18 - BA56 JNB-LHR
Fri 9/2/18 - BA56 JNB-LHR

I know I'm pushing it with 3 requests
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Old Jan 28, 18, 2:53 pm
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Originally Posted by everGLAdes View Post
Could anyone kindly check the following flights for me please?

Sun 4/2/18 - BA57 LHR-JNB
Thu 8/2/18 - BA56 JNB-LHR
Fri 9/2/18 - BA56 JNB-LHR

I know I'm pushing it with 3 requests
Haha, no problem:

BA57: F2 A1 J9 C7 D0 R0 I0 W9 E5 T0 Y9 B9 H7 K6 M6 L6 V7 S7 N6 Q0 O0 G0
BA56: F0 A0 J0 C0 D0 R0 I0 W3 E0 T0 Y9 B9 H9 K9 M9 L9 V9 S9 N9 Q9 O9 G9
BA56: F0 A0 J9 C5 D0 R0 I0 W2 E0 T0 Y9 B9 H9 K9 M9 L9 V9 S9 N9 Q9 O9 G9
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Old Jan 28, 18, 3:05 pm
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Originally Posted by timcjp View Post
Haha, no problem:

BA57: F2 A1 J9 C7 D0 R0 I0 W9 E5 T0 Y9 B9 H7 K6 M6 L6 V7 S7 N6 Q0 O0 G0
BA56: F0 A0 J0 C0 D0 R0 I0 W3 E0 T0 Y9 B9 H9 K9 M9 L9 V9 S9 N9 Q9 O9 G9
BA56: F0 A0 J9 C5 D0 R0 I0 W2 E0 T0 Y9 B9 H9 K9 M9 L9 V9 S9 N9 Q9 O9 G9
Thank you very much. Looking pretty much rammed on the way home.
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Old Jan 28, 18, 4:58 pm
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Originally Posted by EDIer View Post
Terrific insight - thank you!

As it shows, ITM-HND is wide open (in YS) with minimum 3-5 seats available on each flight (and corresponds with BA.COM). Am just curious as to why the ITM-NRT is skipped...
There is no Award Availability on those flights on 23 Apr, but there is on other dates:

[KVS Tool 8.7.8/Diamond - Awards/BA-OneWorld]
Code:
OSA  Osaka Metro JP = KIX ITM UKB
TYO  Tokyo Metro JP = NRT HND
THU  01 Nov 2018 | 1 Seat

Carrier    Flight  From  Depart    To    Arrive         St  Award Availability
---------  ------  ----  --------  ----  --------  ---  --  ------------------
JL         102     ITM   07:10     HND   08:15          0   FS0  CS0  YS5
JL         104     ITM   07:30     HND   08:40          0   FS0  CS0  YS3
JL         3002    ITM   08:00     NRT   09:20          0   FS0  CS0  YS5
JL         106     ITM   08:30     HND   09:40          0   FS0  CS0  YS3
JL         114     ITM   11:30     HND   12:40          0   FS0  CS0  YS5
JL         116     ITM   12:30     HND   13:40          0   FS0  CS0  YS5
JL         118     ITM   13:30     HND   14:40          0   FS0  CS0  YS5
JL         120     ITM   14:30     HND   15:40          0   FS0  CS0  YS5
JL         224     KIX   14:45     HND   15:55          0   FS0  CS0  YS2
JL         124     ITM   15:30     HND   16:40          0   FS0  CS0  YS5
JL         126     ITM   16:30     HND   17:40          0   FS0  CS0  YS5
JL         138     ITM   20:25     HND   21:35          0   FS0  CS0  YS5
JL         228     KIX   21:15     HND   22:25          0   FS0  CS0  YS2
JL         2001    ITM   08:10     CTS   10:00          0   FS0  CS0  YS5
 -> JL     506     CTS   11:00     HND   12:40          0   FS0  CS0  YS+
JL         2501    KIX   09:30     CTS   11:20          0   FS0  CS0  YS5
 -> JL     508     CTS   12:00     HND   13:40          0   FS0  CS0  YS+
JL         2501    KIX   09:30     CTS   11:20          0   FS0  CS0  YS5
 -> JL     510     CTS   13:00     HND   14:40          0   FS0  CS0  YS+
JL         2005    ITM   10:15     CTS   12:05          0   FS0  CS0  YS5
 -> JL     510     CTS   13:00     HND   14:40          0   FS0  CS0  YS+
JL         2503    KIX   13:55     CTS   15:45          0   FS0  CS0  YS3
 -> JL     518     CTS   17:00     HND   18:40          0   FS0  CS0  YS+
JL         2503    KIX   13:55     CTS   15:45          0   FS0  CS0  YS2
 -> JL     520     CTS   17:15     HND   18:55          0   FS0  CS0  YS+
JL         2009    ITM   15:20     CTS   17:10          0   FS0  CS0  YS5
 -> JL     522     CTS   18:00     HND   19:40          0   FS0  CS0  YS+
JL         2505    KIX   15:45     CTS   17:35          0   FS0  CS0  YS5
 -> JL     522     CTS   18:00     HND   19:40          0   FS0  CS0  YS+
JL         2505    KIX   15:45     CTS   17:35          0   FS0  CS0  YS5
 -> JL     524     CTS   19:00     HND   20:40          0   FS0  CS0  YS+
JL         2019    ITM   19:10     CTS   21:00          0   FS0  CS0  YS2
 -> JL     530     CTS   21:20     HND   23:00          0   FS0  CS0  YS+
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Old Jan 28, 18, 10:57 pm
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Kindly request the loading and seat map from EF for CX 161 on 30/Jan. thanks !
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Old Jan 29, 18, 1:20 am
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Originally Posted by neofung View Post
Kindly request the loading and seat map from EF for CX 161 on 30/Jan. thanks !
Here's the loading for CX161.
J5 C5 D5 I3 W3 R3 E2 Y9 B9 H9 K9 M9 L9 V9 S9 N9 Q7 O6
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Old Jan 29, 18, 1:47 am
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Originally Posted by gustavmahler View Post
Here's the loading for CX161.
J5 C5 D5 I3 W3 R3 E2 Y9 B9 H9 K9 M9 L9 V9 S9 N9 Q7 O6
Looks pretty light load if no seat avbl in olci ...
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Old Jan 29, 18, 4:48 am
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Originally Posted by neofung View Post
Looks pretty light load if no seat avbl in olci ...
See my post in the CX A350 thread on the CX forum. Seems to be a bit of an issue at the moment - HKG-MAN flight wide open, no seats available at OLCI, was resolved by contacting them on twitter with my preferred seating option.
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Old Jan 29, 18, 7:19 am
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Originally Posted by KVS View Post
There is no Award Availability on those flights on 23 Apr, but there is on other dates:

[KVS Tool 8.7.8/Diamond - Awards/BA-OneWorld]
Code:
OSA Osaka Metro JP = KIX ITM UKB
TYO Tokyo Metro JP = NRT HND
THU 01 Nov 2018   1 Seat

Carrier Flight From Depart To Arrive St Award Availability
--------- ------ ---- -------- ---- -------- --- -- ------------------
JL 102 ITM 07:10 HND 08:15 0 FS0 CS0 YS5
JL 104 ITM 07:30 HND 08:40 0 FS0 CS0 YS3
JL 3002 ITM 08:00 NRT 09:20 0 FS0 CS0 YS5
JL 106 ITM 08:30 HND 09:40 0 FS0 CS0 YS3
JL 114 ITM 11:30 HND 12:40 0 FS0 CS0 YS5
JL 116 ITM 12:30 HND 13:40 0 FS0 CS0 YS5
JL 118 ITM 13:30 HND 14:40 0 FS0 CS0 YS5
JL 120 ITM 14:30 HND 15:40 0 FS0 CS0 YS5
JL 224 KIX 14:45 HND 15:55 0 FS0 CS0 YS2
JL 124 ITM 15:30 HND 16:40 0 FS0 CS0 YS5
JL 126 ITM 16:30 HND 17:40 0 FS0 CS0 YS5
JL 138 ITM 20:25 HND 21:35 0 FS0 CS0 YS5
JL 228 KIX 21:15 HND 22:25 0 FS0 CS0 YS2
JL 2001 ITM 08:10 CTS 10:00 0 FS0 CS0 YS5
-> JL 506 CTS 11:00 HND 12:40 0 FS0 CS0 YS+
JL 2501 KIX 09:30 CTS 11:20 0 FS0 CS0 YS5
-> JL 508 CTS 12:00 HND 13:40 0 FS0 CS0 YS+
JL 2501 KIX 09:30 CTS 11:20 0 FS0 CS0 YS5
-> JL 510 CTS 13:00 HND 14:40 0 FS0 CS0 YS+
JL 2005 ITM 10:15 CTS 12:05 0 FS0 CS0 YS5
-> JL 510 CTS 13:00 HND 14:40 0 FS0 CS0 YS+
JL 2503 KIX 13:55 CTS 15:45 0 FS0 CS0 YS3
-> JL 518 CTS 17:00 HND 18:40 0 FS0 CS0 YS+
JL 2503 KIX 13:55 CTS 15:45 0 FS0 CS0 YS2
-> JL 520 CTS 17:15 HND 18:55 0 FS0 CS0 YS+
JL 2009 ITM 15:20 CTS 17:10 0 FS0 CS0 YS5
-> JL 522 CTS 18:00 HND 19:40 0 FS0 CS0 YS+
JL 2505 KIX 15:45 CTS 17:35 0 FS0 CS0 YS5
-> JL 522 CTS 18:00 HND 19:40 0 FS0 CS0 YS+
JL 2505 KIX 15:45 CTS 17:35 0 FS0 CS0 YS5
-> JL 524 CTS 19:00 HND 20:40 0 FS0 CS0 YS+
JL 2019 ITM 19:10 CTS 21:00 0 FS0 CS0 YS2
-> JL 530 CTS 21:20 HND 23:00 0 FS0 CS0 YS+

Hi KVS

You write "There is no Award Availability on those flights on 23 Apr" - but for clarity, precisely what 'flights' are you referring to?

There is an abundance of award availability on the ITM-HND flights all day on 23APR (BA.COM confirms this, showing a minimum of 3-5 seats on most flights)

We already know there is no availability on JL3002 (ITM-NRT) on 23APR - and we also know there is availability for JL3002 on other days of the year e.g. 17APR, 8MAY etc etc

Thereafter, I'm not sure what your latest post was hoping to add, or am I missing something?

Thanks
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Old Jan 29, 18, 12:31 pm
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Originally Posted by EDIer View Post
Terrific insight - thank you!
As it shows, ITM-HND is wide open (in YS) with minimum 3-5 seats available on each flight (and corresponds with BA.COM). Am just curious as to why the ITM-NRT is skipped....
Originally Posted by EDIer View Post
Hi KVS

You write "There is no Award Availability on those flights on 23 Apr" - but for clarity, precisely what 'flights' are you referring to?
...
Thereafter, I'm not sure what your latest post was hoping to add, or am I missing something?

Thanks
(bolding mine)
Most likely, the flights to NRT that you asked about. Many (most? all?) award search tools do not show ("skip") flights with no award availability.
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