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Old May 27, 2017, 8:25 am
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All IT systems are back up and running and BA are operating normal flight schedules.

PLEASE ASK ALL COMPENSATION RELATED QUESTIONS IN THE DEDICATED TOPIC: The 2017 BA compensation thread: Your guide to Regulation 261/2004. The full list of cancelled and delayed flights for Sunday is to be found here, though note that it is the arrival time that matters for delays.

Successful (or otherwise) reports for claims where the information would be of use to others would, however, be very welcome in this thread.

Monday flight cancellations for LHR listed here. Services to and from LGW, LCY and STN seem to be working more or less on time.. Telephone numbers for rebooking are in this post, note also the difference between what contact centres and airport staff can do, noted here.

Updated 29/05/2017 22:50 (UK time) Link to BA updates: https://www.britishairways.com/trave...VINF4more_news

Baggage
There are a significant number of bags at Heathrow which we will be reuniting with customers via couriers as soon as we can. This will be done free of charge. Please help us to get these to you as quickly as possible by ensuring we have your latest contact details by filing a delayed bag report.



If your journey was disrupted -
Because of the scale of the disruption, most passengers should expect to make their own arrangements to mitigate the disruption as BA will not have resources to assist all passengers. BA have a duty of care under EU Regulation 261/2004 and according to this letter handed out at Gatwick the following costs would usually be claimable from BA.
  • £25 for reasonable meal/refeshment expenses (per adult per day)
  • 2 reasonable phone calls per customer

If an overnight stay is required
  • £200 for a hotel room (for 2 people)
  • £50 Transport to/from the airport (round trip)

Although BA has suggested some guideline costs for duty of care, EU Regulation 261/2004 doesn't specify any monetary cap. By documenting (take a screen capture of a hotel comparison site for example) that there were no cheaper alternatives, it is possible that claims exceeding the guideline costs suggested by BA may be met. Expenses not covered by BA may be claimable from your travel insurance subject to possible policy excesses.

Duty of care is separate from fixed sum compensation (EUR 250 to 600 depending on the flight distance) for flight delays/cancellations, which may or may not be payable under EU Regulation 261/2004 depending on whether BA can show that the flight delay was caused by 'extraordinary circumstances' and that it took 'all reasonable measures' to avoid the resulting delay. Also, airlines do not usually entertain claims for consequential losses (for example, the cost of prepaid accomodation which you can't now use), so you would need to look to your travel insurance for these costs.

EU Regulation 261/2004 does not cover delayed/damaged/lost baggage. The Montreal Convention sets an upper limit for delayed/damaged/lost baggage compensation. For more information, visit the BA.com webpage on delayed/damaged/lost baggage.

You can read the forum thread for guidance on EU Regulation 261/2004 or check back on these forums later for more advice on claiming, but first of all look after yourself during this disruption.

Claiming expenses incurred during the disruption
https://disruptionclaim.britishairways.com/

Historic update as of 18:55 on Saturday

All BA flights from LHR and LGW are cancelled for the remainder of the day (Saturday 27th May). This is due to a major systems outage of most of BA's computer systems. The original cause of the outage was a power failure from which BA has found it difficult to recover.

Because Call Centre systems are also down, and their own web pages may be affected, BA is encouraging affected customer to seek updates via BA Twitter feed and Facebook page.

Alex Cruz has indicated that those passengers who no longer wish to fly with BA on their booking for today will be "fast tracked" for refunds. However, no mechanism for this has yet been communicated (7pm Saturday). Again affected customers are asked to follow the relevant Twitter and Facebook communication channels.

There are reportedly long delays leaving the airport with some customers claiming delays of many hours.
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Old May 27, 2017, 9:19 am
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Some airframes will depart as positioning flights only and therefore check flight aware until BA.com is back

Crews are down route already for tonight's services if aircraft leave Lhr today. It then comes down to FTLs as we can't check rosters at present.
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Old May 27, 2017, 9:19 am
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I'm at lhr now attempting to get in for a 18:35 to fco. Just informed by staff all flights cancelled for the day and to go home.
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Old May 27, 2017, 9:19 am
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Originally Posted by FlyingScientist
departed:
(all flights scheduled before 9:25)
BA 728 (GVA), 9:25/10:51
<Snipped>
BA 213 (BOS), 11:15/14:26

Not departed:
BA 712 (ZRH), 9:25
<Snipped>
BA 452 (IBZ), 11:15
(all flights scheduled after 11:15)
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Old May 27, 2017, 9:20 am
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Originally Posted by KARFA
There is no conformance at T3.
Thanks! She'll head over to T3 and we'll see what she finds. (How many flights a day does BA run from T3?)
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Old May 27, 2017, 9:20 am
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Quick update from a "victim" thankfully repatriated to his house. Phoned BA at 2pm to rebook, told sorry please call back in 3 hours. Just phoned again (i know, cheeky it's only 2:20 later) and told call back in 3 hours...doesn't sound fixed to me.
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Old May 27, 2017, 9:22 am
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They're announcing now that all flights have been cancelled today and everyone has to leave the airside section and get out!
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Old May 27, 2017, 9:23 am
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Status of BA 226 ATL-LHR. 27 May??

When I try to access the link given at the top for status reports, I just get that the website is busy.

Can anyone tell me the status of #226 ATL - LHR ?? I assume it depends on the status of # 227 which was supposed to leave LHR but I assume it has been cancelled.

Anyone know if 227 has been rescheduled?

thanks
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Old May 27, 2017, 9:23 am
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Originally Posted by herbertgoon
Quick update from a "victim" thankfully repatriated to his house. Phoned BA at 2pm to rebook, told sorry please call back in 3 hours. Just phoned again (i know, cheeky it's only 2:20 later) and told call back in 3 hours...doesn't sound fixed to me.
I don't think anyone has suggested it has been fixed yet.
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Old May 27, 2017, 9:23 am
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Originally Posted by Michael Roberts
I wonder if it's worth heading to the airport and seeing if they'll sneak me on the earlier flight
Worth a try. It's already showing delayed.
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Old May 27, 2017, 9:24 am
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I've just added the section "If you are disrupted" to the Wiki post at the top which i think summarises the basics that people would need to know to look after themselves during this disruption, if it's not right or appropriate can people make ammendments?
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Old May 27, 2017, 9:25 am
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I've just added the section "If you are disrupted" to the Wiki post at the top which i think summarises the basics that people would need to know to look after themselves during this disruption, if it's not right or appropriate can people make ammendments?
On my way to T5 for a 2005 flight up to Scotland, BA claims it is not delayed, I'm skeptical.

This was a bad time to drop to Bronze.
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Old May 27, 2017, 9:26 am
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If I get to London on another airline, will BA cancel all the other legs ?

If I can get to London on another airline, will BA automatically cancel my reservation for my ongoing flights on same pnr?

Thanks
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Old May 27, 2017, 9:26 am
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Originally Posted by suntravler
When I try to access the link given at the top for status reports, I just get that the website is busy.

Can anyone tell me the status of #226 ATL - LHR ?? I assume it depends on the status of # 227 which was supposed to leave LHR but I assume it has been cancelled.

Anyone know if 227 has been rescheduled?

thanks
You are correct it would be BA227 which forms BA226. It hasn't gone anywhere yet. It isn't clear whether it may depart later on today. Keep checking flightradar24 to see what is happening for BA227. Also you may wish to go to the airport at the normal time anyway to explore rebooking options - there are plenty of alternative routings from ATL to LHR.
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Old May 27, 2017, 9:27 am
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Sky reporting all flights cancelled until end of the day

http://news.sky.com/story/ba-passeng...ption-10894862
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Old May 27, 2017, 9:27 am
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I don't think anyone has suggested it has been fixed yet.
Inflection wrong, sorry. Just meant its not fixed yet rather than commenting on a previous post.
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