BA American Express 2-4-1 Voucher Discussion
Jan 16, 2018, 8:40 am
#498
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Just to add 2-4-1s must originate in the UK or JER (Jersey is not part of the UK, they do their own thing!).
Starting from JER or INV will mean you avoid APD, so a saving of ~£150 per adult if in W/J/F. You do not need to return to JER/INV at the end, so JER-LGW/LHR-JFK-LHR is fine. Also both JER and INV are fine for b2bs.
Starting from JER or INV will mean you avoid APD, so a saving of ~£150 per adult if in W/J/F. You do not need to return to JER/INV at the end, so JER-LGW/LHR-JFK-LHR is fine. Also both JER and INV are fine for b2bs.
Jan 16, 2018, 12:12 pm
#500
Join Date: Nov 2012
Location: Cambridgeshire
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I was just short of £20k spend on my standard card so upgraded to the Premium card.
The membership cost for the Premium card then triggered the £20k on the no longer used standard card!
i have received my 12 month valid 2-4-1 voucher! Amex have said they will sort it out, I just have a worry this could be all too much for BA IT?
Will my balance of £10k spend on the new card be wasted and I will have to wait a full year to start building for another voucher?
ive been reading about all the boo ha about booking the outbound and nervously waiting to book the inbound with the risk of change fees.
i had a quick look at SFO in Club and found outbound and inbound seats available
The membership cost for the Premium card then triggered the £20k on the no longer used standard card!
i have received my 12 month valid 2-4-1 voucher! Amex have said they will sort it out, I just have a worry this could be all too much for BA IT?
Will my balance of £10k spend on the new card be wasted and I will have to wait a full year to start building for another voucher?
ive been reading about all the boo ha about booking the outbound and nervously waiting to book the inbound with the risk of change fees.
i had a quick look at SFO in Club and found outbound and inbound seats available
Amex said they would sort it out by writing to BA but nothing has changed on the BA side. I rang the BAEC silver line last week who said it takes 3 working days for these types of issues to be resolved for silver BAEC members. The 3 days are up and there's no change to the expiry date on my Executive Club account page; it still shows 1 year.
I can't see if I've received any extra avios from Amex for the upgrade, as you did; I keep getting an error when I try to look at my earnings:We are unable to complete this request at the present time
Last edited by ttama; Jan 16, 2018 at 12:26 pm
Jan 16, 2018, 12:18 pm
#501
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Likewise hovering for 241 availability to CPT next Dec/Jan in J. It’s bleak out there, but at least we’re flexible on dates.
I’m scanning daily!!
I’m scanning daily!!
Jan 16, 2018, 4:48 pm
#502
Join Date: Sep 2010
Location: UK oop north
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Well, on hold now to the US blue line, couldn't get through at all last night to try to add on our return from SA. I never previously had a problem getting through, but this year I'm now wondering whether the 241 has any value to a lowly blue?
I chose amend a booking, is this a mistake? I wonder whether new booking calls get priority?
2359 so I think that's it as still in the queue
and now rung off and no seats even showed on line....
I chose amend a booking, is this a mistake? I wonder whether new booking calls get priority?
2359 so I think that's it as still in the queue
and now rung off and no seats even showed on line....
Last edited by YorkieFlyer; Jan 16, 2018 at 5:04 pm
Jan 17, 2018, 2:50 am
#503
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Received an automatic email at 0836 advising extra availability showing, ticketed by 0930. That's 137,500 Avios and just £1,005 in T&F.
Jan 17, 2018, 3:11 am
#504
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There is a delay between seats being available to the call centres and becoming available online - maybe an hour or two (due to caching of data maybe?). On popular routes, seats become available then get booked over the phone within minutes or even seconds and never show as available online.
Jan 17, 2018, 3:55 am
#505
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Jan 17, 2018, 4:11 am
#506
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There is a delay between seats being available to the call centres and becoming available online - maybe an hour or two (due to caching of data maybe?). On popular routes, seats become available then get booked over the phone within minutes or even seconds and never show as available online.
I don't think it's any sort of data caching issue. In my understanding neither the website nor the agents can search more than 355 days out. So until it ticks past midnight, nobody can look at the newly available flights; it may just be that the agent can grab the flights before a ba.com user has clicked search and waited-out the interstitial page.
Jan 17, 2018, 4:26 am
#507
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Is this really a known fact or conjecture? Personally I've never not seen seats appear online at 12am GMT in maybe 30 attempts, and it would have to be a regular problem before I believed something had changed.
I don't think it's any sort of data caching issue. In my understanding neither the website nor the agents can search more than 355 days out. So until it ticks past midnight, nobody can look at the newly available flights; it may just be that the agent can grab the flights before a ba.com user has clicked search and waited-out the interstitial page.
I don't think it's any sort of data caching issue. In my understanding neither the website nor the agents can search more than 355 days out. So until it ticks past midnight, nobody can look at the newly available flights; it may just be that the agent can grab the flights before a ba.com user has clicked search and waited-out the interstitial page.
Jan 17, 2018, 6:13 am
#508
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Fair question about the exact details. I have certainly seen no seats available online just after midnight GMT but then some available at 07:00 or so. Of course I can't be certain whether they were the 'midnight' seats or some others that became available later in the night, or maybe the 'midnight' seats were nabbed quickly but then cancelled or released for some reason later.
Jan 17, 2018, 6:15 am
#509
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Well done! That is unusual for extra availability to be added for peak periods so soon , perhaps a cancellation?
Jan 17, 2018, 7:52 am
#510
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I also upgraded to BAPP just before I reached £10k spend, at the beginning of January. I've spoken to Amex who confirmed that my voucher was triggered after the upgrade, and that it was valid for 2 years. However BA emailed me to congratulate me on achieving £20k spend on my blue card, and to say the voucher was valid for 1 year. That's clearly incorrect as I haven't reached £20k spend.
Amex said they would sort it out by writing to BA but nothing has changed on the BA side. I rang the BAEC silver line last week who said it takes 3 working days for these types of issues to be resolved for silver BAEC members. The 3 days are up and there's no change to the expiry date on my Executive Club account page; it still shows 1 year.
I can't see if I've received any extra avios from Amex for the upgrade, as you did; I keep getting an error when I try to look at my earnings:We are unable to complete this request at the present time
Amex said they would sort it out by writing to BA but nothing has changed on the BA side. I rang the BAEC silver line last week who said it takes 3 working days for these types of issues to be resolved for silver BAEC members. The 3 days are up and there's no change to the expiry date on my Executive Club account page; it still shows 1 year.
I can't see if I've received any extra avios from Amex for the upgrade, as you did; I keep getting an error when I try to look at my earnings:We are unable to complete this request at the present time
Maybe be I need to add the BA 3 days to the Amex days then think of another number and add that on too.
i wonder if they will extend the start date accordingly.....