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** AA Domestic First on two cabin will earn business TPs and avios for departures on or after 11 January 2017 - see reference posts for more details **

** Note that the practice of AA Domestic 3-class service flights booking into A for 210 TPs when I was no longer available ceased in September 2017. Discussion here. **

Welcome to the thread. This is a continuation of the highly popular 2016 Tier Point thread. We keep track of other prices, as well as useful reference information for those planning tier point runs.

Please read the first few posts in this thread first as it contains lots of information which may answer your question.

This is a community-maintained wiki post. Please add important information to it or correct outdated information by clicking the "Edit" button below!

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Sale Fares
  • from AMS/RTM to US ILN4T7S6/INX6T7S6 reported in this post and this post, e.g. NYC - €1,461, ORD - €1,492, LAS - €1,460, needs to be booked by 25 September, see linked post for details
  • from PRG to US ILN4T8S6 reported in this post, e.g. IAD - £1,033, MIA - £1,133, ATL - £1,080, needs to be booked by 21 September, see linked post for details

Advanced Promotion Fares
  • from DUB to US ILN8C1S6 reported here, e.g. NYC - €1,472, MIA - €1,578, see linked post for details
  • froM DUB to US ILN8S4C1 reported here, e.g. JFK - €1,427, MIA - €1,532, LAS - €1,667, LAX - €1,795, HNL - €2,095, this is an advanced purchase fare so no book by deadline, see linked post for details
  • from OTP to PHX ILN8R4C1 reported here, e.g. PHX - £1,252, see linked post for details
  • from AMS to BKK INCEU60 reported here, e.g. BKK - £1,216, see linked post for details

See here in post # 8 for a 2017 archive of exEU sale fare, and see here in post # 445 for a 2016 archive of exEU sale fares.

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This thread lists attractive tier point (TP) runs under £3 per TP grouped within different (departure) geographies

Please note that current availability is not guaranteed and all prices include taxes. Please use the following convention when adding tier point runs to this wiki post:
Date fare checked Price per Tier Point Total Price Total Tier Points Route Booking Classes Booking Channel Credit Notes (if applicable) Airlines

Please remember to:
  • Convert currencies to GBP, rounding to the nearest pound.
  • Post full routes and full booking classes.
  • Note any restrictions on booking in the Notes section.
  • List in order of price per tier point within the relevant departure area.

Please see the links at the bottom of the wiki for archives of runs from previous years.

From Europe

24APR £0.90/TP £400 440 TLL-BA/AY-HEL-LON-GLA-KOI-ABZ ; TLL-BA/AY-HEL-LON-GLA-SDZ-ABZ (see post #1221)
02NOV £1.33/TP £583 440 LHR-HEL-TLL/TLL-HEL-LHR-NCL//NCL-LHR-HEL-TLL/TLL-HEL-LHR IIIIIIIIII Google Flights armouredant 2 nested tickets, both other a Saturday night. BA ticket, BA & AY metal, AY A350 possible LHR-HEL
08FEB £1.33/TP £346 260 JER-LGW-RAK-LGW-RAK I/I/I/I BA.com ramops
14AUG £1.65/TP £593 360 OSL-HEL-AGP-HEL-OSL I-I-I-I ITA Flythe96flag SH J cabin + possible red-eye (!) AY
26JUL £1.81/TP £72.70 40 MAD-FRA Z lan.com Prospero 787 flat bed LA
1JAN £1.85/TP £444 240 JER-LGW/LHR-HEL J/I/I/J ITA Matrix flatlander Available most weekends first half of 2016, fare IM0R
23NOV £1.89/TP £377 200 DUB-LHR-MAD-SVQ r/t I-I-I-I-I-I ITA Lorcancoyle IM0B IB DUB to SVQ BA and IB flights (I2 for domestic under IB code), random dates in December available, A340 on some dates (helpfully pointed out by Temps that domestic Spain is only 20 TPs)
24NOV £1.91/TP £765.00 400 BUD-DOH-SHJ I/A/I/A QR.com Wozza2404 A320 QR
11AUG £2.10/TP £420 200 AMS-LHR-GLA-LSI-ABZ-LSI-GLA-LHR-AMS I/I/I/I/I/I/I/I ITA Matrix --> Priceline.com MrMutton
13NOV £2.56/TP £410 160 LHR-HEL ? BA.com Lorcancoyle wide open as flight+hotel, can reduce with TCB cash back BA

From North, Central and South America
26Jan £1.50/TP £960 640 LGA-CMH-DCA-PHL-RDU-CLT-ATL-MIA-PTY and return I/I/I/I/I/I/I/I/I/I/I/I/I/I/I/I ITA Matrix--> BookWithMatrix dot com --> AA.com HPN-HRL other routings available; reverse routing is £40 more - see post 388 AA
10MAY £2.50/TP £203 80 ORF-CLT-ORD I/I AA.com
21MAY £2.08/TP £250 120 YYZ-PHL/LGA-CLT-ORF/PHF I/I/I AA.com
22NOV £1.43/TP £172 120 DCA-(LGA/BOS/PHL)-CLT-RDU (one way, reverse works as well) I/I/I ITA->BWM->priceline.com

From Middle East, Asia and Australasia
23Feb £0.99/TP £356 360 TPE-xKUL-PEN(JHB)-xKUL-TPE Z http://www.malaysiaairlines.com ermen two day min stay, promo fare MH
04JAN £1.10/TP £44 40 KUL-PEN D http://www.malaysiaairlines.com/uk/en.html fitch Works in both directions, rtn £80 if you can make the timnings work MH
11Nov £0.85/TP £307 360 TPE-KUL-SIN-KUL-TPE Z http://www.malaysiaairlines.com neofung

From Africa


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Need a year-end TP run (ex-LON) to make / retain status?
Some tips for searching for the year-end TP run for newcomers, the below is indicative only, but hopefully provides a bit of guidance for relatively straightforward runs ex-LON. The guide to using ITA matrix in post #4 (see here) along with these ideas, might come in handy. Feel free to share results, problems or general questions in the thread as these may not always work and there might be better deals out there...

For overnight trips remember to check BA and Iberia for their flights and hotel option as well, can get hotel for almost no extra cost at times

Need 80 TPs or fewer
Club Europe return somewhere close by is best - DUB, AMS and JER usually cheapest. AMS and JER easier than DUB for an immediate turnaround. The BA.com low fare finder can be very useful.

If you need as few as 45 TPs you might consider booking economy flights and hoping for a proactive online upgrade offer - but they're not guaranteed to materialise (so not one if you have no more time left in your TP collection year). Alternatively, booking a return to one of the 40 tier point destinations with one way in CE and the return in ET (or vice versa if cheaper). Bilbao, Jersey and Amsterdam seems the most cost effective for this.

Need 85-120 TPs
Iberia flights via MAD to regional Spanish airports will get you 120 TPs as the domestic Spanish flights are 20 TPs in business. Under £300 including hotel can be available. Check BIO, GRX, VLC, BCN, SVQ etc. Example here

Need 125-160 TPs
Take a look at the shorthaul plus routes earning 80 TPs each way in business listed in the first post (here) MLA, IST, HEL and RAK are usually available. If time sensitive take a look at BA flight and hotel option to HEL, where you can usually get the last BA flight out on a Saturday, airport hotel and first return Sunday for well under £500.

Alternative options include positioning to JER and flying JER-LGW-XXX (AMS usually works well and avoids switching airports)

Need more than 160 TPs
You'll most likely be heading north then - OSL or VNO via HEL will get you 240 TPs, as will JER-LGW/LHR-HEL e.g. LHR-HEL-OSL for £520. Also the BA fare for LHR-HEL-TLL at ~£235 is still available and would get 200 TPs for a return.

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Old Apr 4, 2017, 4:01 am
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TLL routing

Is it possible to a run to TLL, but break the journey on the way back to avoid the v early start to get on the A350 and/or have a bit longer in HEL?

i.e.

Outbound Day 1 GLA-LHR, LHR-HEL, HEL-TLL

Inbound Day 1 TLL-HEL
Inbound Day 2 HEL-LHR, LHR GLA

This could be part of a nested flight. I just can't seem to get it to price on google, ITA or BA
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Old Apr 4, 2017, 4:26 am
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Originally Posted by thepowerbook
Is it possible to a run to TLL, but break the journey on the way back to avoid the v early start to get on the A350 and/or have a bit longer in HEL?

i.e.

Outbound Day 1 GLA-LHR, LHR-HEL, HEL-TLL
Inbound Day 1 TLL-HEL
Inbound Day 2 HEL-LHR, LHR GLA
I was able to get this to price up on Matrix for November/December about 2 weeks ago - leaving late afternoon from Tallinn and getting a next day connection. From memory I found it by using the time bars and selecting "display all" - doing it one page at a time would have taken ages, as those connections were near the bottom. Will give this another shot soon - what dates were you thinking?
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Old Apr 4, 2017, 4:31 am
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I managed to do the 2135 TLL-HEL AY116 connecting to the morning A350 flight the next morning earlier on this year. I had to force ITA to offer this by specifying the inbound flight numbers in the advanced routing, and this then offered it happily. Can't remember who I booked it with, but think that one had to use bookwithmatrix to force it through as I couldn't persuade it through with an OTA directly.
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Old Apr 4, 2017, 4:45 am
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Originally Posted by w3andw4d
Thinking of ABZ-LHR-MAN-LHR-ABZ to get 160TP for Gold by 8th May.
I'd be doing it in one day with around 3 hours between flights for £340.

Anything I have missed regarding risks, or any better ideas?

Thanks.
I thought I was sorted with this, but I now need 175TP for gold!
Can you guys think of anything I could do in a day from ABZ in April or early May?

I could possibly manage an ATH arriving at 0225 and departing at 0805 the same morning. Would tht be a problem with immigration there?
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Old Apr 4, 2017, 7:01 am
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Originally Posted by squawk
I was able to get this to price up on Matrix for November/December about 2 weeks ago - leaving late afternoon from Tallinn and getting a next day connection. From memory I found it by using the time bars and selecting "display all" - doing it one page at a time would have taken ages, as those connections were near the bottom. Will give this another shot soon - what dates were you thinking?
I'm fairly flexible with dates. I had assumed that it would need to be a nested trip to get 2x thurs/friday, but would also be interested if this was possible over a weekend.

Anything after 8th Nov is OK for me
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Old Apr 4, 2017, 7:15 am
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Originally Posted by w3andw4d
I thought I was sorted with this, but I now need 175TP for gold!
Can you guys think of anything I could do in a day from ABZ in April or early May?

I could possibly manage an ATH arriving at 0225 and departing at 0805 the same morning. Would tht be a problem with immigration there?
No. Why should it?
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Old Apr 4, 2017, 7:36 am
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Immigration will be fine, however if you intend to spend the night in the airport the Greeks are notoriously against sleeping whilst airside - http://www.sleepinginairports.net/europe/athens.htm

There is a Sofitel down the road or a free shuttle bus to the Holiday Inn
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Old Apr 4, 2017, 9:45 am
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Originally Posted by florens
What about a couple of TLL runs or domestic MH flights? Excellent value IMHO.
If im being honest, i dont value Gold enough to go out my way to hop about Europe. Ive always obtained it by doing longer haul and working it in with holidays and 7-10-14 night stays with potential trips in between a longer break.

I like having it, but the thought of spending £1200 to fly through Finland, Estonia and Shetland Islands...... nope.
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Old Apr 4, 2017, 10:28 am
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Originally Posted by dolfinco
If im being honest, i dont value Gold enough to go out my way to hop about Europe. Ive always obtained it by doing longer haul and working it in with holidays and 7-10-14 night stays with potential trips in between a longer break.

I like having it, but the thought of spending £1200 to fly through Finland, Estonia and Shetland Islands...... nope.
Given you could likely buy gold for a few hundred quod if you got friendly enough with a GGL member (NOT an offer, just an opinion) - Id value Gold pretty low.

GGL is more of a person question, but personally I wouldn't spend £1200 to maintain it.
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Old Apr 4, 2017, 10:37 am
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Dub - sfo £1344

Hello Flyertalkers,

I have found a fare for a trip to SFO this summer and have tried to tier point optimise the routing for as many tp's as possible. I have attached a link to google flights but I am hoping that this route can gain more tp's.

https://www.google.co.uk/flights/#flt=DUB.LHR.2017-07-04.DUBLHR0BA839*LHR.MAD.2017-07-05.LHRMAD0BA458*MAD.JFK.2017-07-05.MADJFK0IB6251*JFK.SFO.2017-07-06.JFKSFO0AA9*SFO.DUB.2017-07-16.SFOJFK0AA66~JFKDUB0AA290;c:GBP;e:1;sc:b;sf:/m/02cft,/m/04jpl,/m/056_y,/m/02_286,/m/0d6lp;sd:1;t:f;tt:m;sp:.GBP.134201*.GBP.134201*.GB P.134201*.GBP.134201*.GBP.134322

I am very flexible with dates and routings.

Many Thanks,

Tjumbo
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Old Apr 4, 2017, 10:45 am
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Originally Posted by tjumbo
Hello Flyertalkers,

I have found a fare for a trip to SFO this summer and have tried to tier point optimise the routing for as many tp's as possible. I have attached a link to google flights but I am hoping that this route can gain more tp's.

https://www.google.co.uk/flights/#fl...01*.GBP.134322

I am very flexible with dates and routings.

Many Thanks,

Tjumbo
The best you can probably do on this fare is something like:

DUB-LHR/MAD-JFK-LAX-SFO-LAX-JFK-LHR/MAD-DUB

Can't seem to get a HEL turn in their - maybe it exceeds MPM.
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Old Apr 4, 2017, 3:29 pm
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Originally Posted by esspeebee
They'll extend by two weeks as a matter of course if you need it to make Bronze, Silver or Gold - just phone up after the flights have posted to your account and ask them to make the adjustment.

Given that, your cut off for earning will be the 22nd - will you be returning from your MSP/ORD trip before then? More generally, it'd be helpful to know when you need to be in each city and how much time you have available for unnecessary flying in between.
Further to my previous email I reckon I now need only around 510 tp before end of year and need to go to MSP and JAX leave MAN sat 10 June. Msp meeting Monday 12 Jacksonville meeting Wednesday 14 and back to man on overnight Thursday . I am thinking dub- phl-msp-jax-ord-dub. All business on American metal. Cost around 3k any better routes ? Also with this route how many tp will I get. I will position to and from dub to man using EI

Can anyone help with a spot if advise. I can be a little flexible on dates but tp Year runs to 8 June. Thanks in advance
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Old Apr 5, 2017, 1:42 am
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Originally Posted by Wozza2404
Given you could likely buy gold for a few hundred quod if you got friendly enough with a GGL member (NOT an offer, just an opinion) - Id value Gold pretty low.

GGL is more of a person question, but personally I wouldn't spend £1200 to maintain it.
I had never thought of that actually. Just need to find a friendly GGL member then....unless something comes u quickly.
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Old Apr 5, 2017, 3:10 am
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having trouble getting the ex Dub - USA sale fare to price correctly before it expires tomorrow. Google flights isn't showing me the flights I want, ITA matrix is, but using bookwithmatrix it keeps changing the price when going through to AA or priceline.

I'm flexible with dates so have tried adjusting them a bit but it's the same for every date I try so wondering if there's something with the fare or route that I'm not picking up on.

The route is DUB-LHR-MIA-TPA-MIA-LHR//LCY-DUB

Matrix gives me plenty of options and codeshares at the price I want of 1380 euros, but as mentioned before this is going up to $1739 when using bookwithmatrix. Any ideas or tips for getting somewhere to price this and ticket it as shown in matrix?




Dublin (DUB) to London (LHR) — Wed, Jul 5
British Airways 823
Dep: 7:45 pm
Arr: 9:10 pm
1h 25m
Airbus A319
Business (I)
Meal

London (LHR) to Miami (MIA) — Thu, Jul 6
Iberia 4228
Dep: 12:15 pm
Arr: 4:50 pm
9h 35m
Boeing 777
Business (I)
MovieTelephone
OPERATED BY AMERICAN

Miami (MIA) to Tampa (TPA) — Thu, Jul 6
American 1829
Dep: 7:35 pm
Arr: 8:43 pm
1h 8m
Airbus A319
First (I)

Tampa (TPA) to Miami (MIA) — Wed, Aug 2
American 1113
Dep: 3:35 pm
Arr: 4:43 pm
1h 8m
Boeing 737
First (I)

Miami (MIA) to London (LHR) — Wed, Aug 2
Overnight flight
Iberia 4196
Dep: 6:00 pm
Arr: 7:40 am
8h 40m
Boeing 777
Business (I)
Breakfast, DinnerMovieTelephone
OPERATED BY AMERICAN
Thu, Aug 3

London (LCY) to Dublin (DUB) — Thu, Aug 3
British Airways 4468
Dep: 6:00 pm
Arr: 7:20 pm
1h 20m
Embraer RJ-170
Business (I)
Meal
OPERATED BY BA CITYFLYER LIMITED


Fare 1: Carrier IB ILN8S4C1 DUB to TPA (rules)
Passenger type ADT, round trip fare, booking code I
Covers DUB-LHR (Business), LHR-MIA (Business), MIA-TPA (First)
€482.00
Fare 2: Carrier IB ILN8S4C1 TPA to DUB (rules)
Passenger type ADT, round trip fare, booking code I
Covers TPA-MIA (First), MIA-LHR (Business), LCY-DUB (Business)
€482.00
Ireland Passenger Charge (UP)
€13.70
USDA APHIS Fee (XA)
€3.72
US Immigration Fee (XY)
€6.57
US Customs Fee (YC)
€5.16
IB YQ surcharge (YQ)
€252.00
United Kingdom Passenger Service Charge Departures (UB)
€87.25
US International Arrival Tax (US)
€16.88
US September 11th Security Fee (AY)
€10.50
US International Departure Tax (US)
€16.88
US Passenger Facility Charge (XF)
€4.22
Subtotal per passenger
€1,380.88
Number of passengers
x1
Subtotal For 1 adult
€1,380.88
This ticket is non-refundable.
Changes to this ticket will incur a penalty fee.
Fare Construction (can be useful to travel agents)
DUB BA X/E/LON IB X/E/MIA AA TPA M 510.05ILN8S4C1 AA X/E/MIA IB X/E/LON BA DUB M 510.05ILN8S4C1 NUC 1020.10 END ROE 0.944989 XT 13.70UP 87.25UB 5.16YC 6.57XY 3.72XA 33.76US 10.50AY 252.00YQ 4.22XF MIA4.50
Total Airfare & Taxes
€1,380.88
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Old Apr 5, 2017, 3:11 am
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Originally Posted by RedDevil83
having trouble getting the ex Dub - USA sale fare to price correctly before it expires tomorrow. Google flights isn't showing me the flights I want, ITA matrix is, but using bookwithmatrix it keeps changing the price when going through to AA or priceline.

I'm flexible with dates so have tried adjusting them a bit but it's the same for every date I try so wondering if there's something with the fare or route that I'm not picking up on.

The route is DUB-LHR-MIA-TPA-MIA-LHR//LCY-DUB

Matrix gives me plenty of options and codeshares at the price I want of 1380 euros, but as mentioned before this is going up to $1739 when using bookwithmatrix. Any ideas or tips for getting somewhere to price this and ticket it as shown in matrix?




Dublin (DUB) to London (LHR) — Wed, Jul 5
British Airways 823
Dep: 7:45 pm
Arr: 9:10 pm
1h 25m
Airbus A319
Business (I)
Meal

London (LHR) to Miami (MIA) — Thu, Jul 6
Iberia 4228
Dep: 12:15 pm
Arr: 4:50 pm
9h 35m
Boeing 777
Business (I)
MovieTelephone
OPERATED BY AMERICAN

Miami (MIA) to Tampa (TPA) — Thu, Jul 6
American 1829
Dep: 7:35 pm
Arr: 8:43 pm
1h 8m
Airbus A319
First (I)

Tampa (TPA) to Miami (MIA) — Wed, Aug 2
American 1113
Dep: 3:35 pm
Arr: 4:43 pm
1h 8m
Boeing 737
First (I)

Miami (MIA) to London (LHR) — Wed, Aug 2
Overnight flight
Iberia 4196
Dep: 6:00 pm
Arr: 7:40 am
8h 40m
Boeing 777
Business (I)
Breakfast, DinnerMovieTelephone
OPERATED BY AMERICAN
Thu, Aug 3

London (LCY) to Dublin (DUB) — Thu, Aug 3
British Airways 4468
Dep: 6:00 pm
Arr: 7:20 pm
1h 20m
Embraer RJ-170
Business (I)
Meal
OPERATED BY BA CITYFLYER LIMITED


Fare 1: Carrier IB ILN8S4C1 DUB to TPA (rules)
Passenger type ADT, round trip fare, booking code I
Covers DUB-LHR (Business), LHR-MIA (Business), MIA-TPA (First)
€482.00
Fare 2: Carrier IB ILN8S4C1 TPA to DUB (rules)
Passenger type ADT, round trip fare, booking code I
Covers TPA-MIA (First), MIA-LHR (Business), LCY-DUB (Business)
€482.00
Ireland Passenger Charge (UP)
€13.70
USDA APHIS Fee (XA)
€3.72
US Immigration Fee (XY)
€6.57
US Customs Fee (YC)
€5.16
IB YQ surcharge (YQ)
€252.00
United Kingdom Passenger Service Charge Departures (UB)
€87.25
US International Arrival Tax (US)
€16.88
US September 11th Security Fee (AY)
€10.50
US International Departure Tax (US)
€16.88
US Passenger Facility Charge (XF)
€4.22
Subtotal per passenger
€1,380.88
Number of passengers
x1
Subtotal For 1 adult
€1,380.88
This ticket is non-refundable.
Changes to this ticket will incur a penalty fee.
Fare Construction (can be useful to travel agents)
DUB BA X/E/LON IB X/E/MIA AA TPA M 510.05ILN8S4C1 AA X/E/MIA IB X/E/LON BA DUB M 510.05ILN8S4C1 NUC 1020.10 END ROE 0.944989 XT 13.70UP 87.25UB 5.16YC 6.57XY 3.72XA 33.76US 10.50AY 252.00YQ 4.22XF MIA4.50
Total Airfare & Taxes
€1,380.88
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