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** AA Domestic First on two cabin will earn business TPs and avios for departures on or after 11 January 2017 - see reference posts for more details **

** Note that the practice of AA Domestic 3-class service flights booking into A for 210 TPs when I was no longer available ceased in September 2017. Discussion here. **

Welcome to the thread. This is a continuation of the highly popular 2016 Tier Point thread. We keep track of other prices, as well as useful reference information for those planning tier point runs.

Please read the first few posts in this thread first as it contains lots of information which may answer your question.

This is a community-maintained wiki post. Please add important information to it or correct outdated information by clicking the "Edit" button below!

Current Promotions of Interest
Sale Fares
  • from AMS/RTM to US ILN4T7S6/INX6T7S6 reported in this post and this post, e.g. NYC - €1,461, ORD - €1,492, LAS - €1,460, needs to be booked by 25 September, see linked post for details
  • from PRG to US ILN4T8S6 reported in this post, e.g. IAD - £1,033, MIA - £1,133, ATL - £1,080, needs to be booked by 21 September, see linked post for details

Advanced Promotion Fares
  • from DUB to US ILN8C1S6 reported here, e.g. NYC - €1,472, MIA - €1,578, see linked post for details
  • froM DUB to US ILN8S4C1 reported here, e.g. JFK - €1,427, MIA - €1,532, LAS - €1,667, LAX - €1,795, HNL - €2,095, this is an advanced purchase fare so no book by deadline, see linked post for details
  • from OTP to PHX ILN8R4C1 reported here, e.g. PHX - £1,252, see linked post for details
  • from AMS to BKK INCEU60 reported here, e.g. BKK - £1,216, see linked post for details

See here in post # 8 for a 2017 archive of exEU sale fare, and see here in post # 445 for a 2016 archive of exEU sale fares.

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This thread lists attractive tier point (TP) runs under £3 per TP grouped within different (departure) geographies

Please note that current availability is not guaranteed and all prices include taxes. Please use the following convention when adding tier point runs to this wiki post:
Date fare checked Price per Tier Point Total Price Total Tier Points Route Booking Classes Booking Channel Credit Notes (if applicable) Airlines

Please remember to:
  • Convert currencies to GBP, rounding to the nearest pound.
  • Post full routes and full booking classes.
  • Note any restrictions on booking in the Notes section.
  • List in order of price per tier point within the relevant departure area.

Please see the links at the bottom of the wiki for archives of runs from previous years.

From Europe

24APR £0.90/TP £400 440 TLL-BA/AY-HEL-LON-GLA-KOI-ABZ ; TLL-BA/AY-HEL-LON-GLA-SDZ-ABZ (see post #1221)
02NOV £1.33/TP £583 440 LHR-HEL-TLL/TLL-HEL-LHR-NCL//NCL-LHR-HEL-TLL/TLL-HEL-LHR IIIIIIIIII Google Flights armouredant 2 nested tickets, both other a Saturday night. BA ticket, BA & AY metal, AY A350 possible LHR-HEL
08FEB £1.33/TP £346 260 JER-LGW-RAK-LGW-RAK I/I/I/I BA.com ramops
14AUG £1.65/TP £593 360 OSL-HEL-AGP-HEL-OSL I-I-I-I ITA Flythe96flag SH J cabin + possible red-eye (!) AY
26JUL £1.81/TP £72.70 40 MAD-FRA Z lan.com Prospero 787 flat bed LA
1JAN £1.85/TP £444 240 JER-LGW/LHR-HEL J/I/I/J ITA Matrix flatlander Available most weekends first half of 2016, fare IM0R
23NOV £1.89/TP £377 200 DUB-LHR-MAD-SVQ r/t I-I-I-I-I-I ITA Lorcancoyle IM0B IB DUB to SVQ BA and IB flights (I2 for domestic under IB code), random dates in December available, A340 on some dates (helpfully pointed out by Temps that domestic Spain is only 20 TPs)
24NOV £1.91/TP £765.00 400 BUD-DOH-SHJ I/A/I/A QR.com Wozza2404 A320 QR
11AUG £2.10/TP £420 200 AMS-LHR-GLA-LSI-ABZ-LSI-GLA-LHR-AMS I/I/I/I/I/I/I/I ITA Matrix --> Priceline.com MrMutton
13NOV £2.56/TP £410 160 LHR-HEL ? BA.com Lorcancoyle wide open as flight+hotel, can reduce with TCB cash back BA

From North, Central and South America
26Jan £1.50/TP £960 640 LGA-CMH-DCA-PHL-RDU-CLT-ATL-MIA-PTY and return I/I/I/I/I/I/I/I/I/I/I/I/I/I/I/I ITA Matrix--> BookWithMatrix dot com --> AA.com HPN-HRL other routings available; reverse routing is £40 more - see post 388 AA
10MAY £2.50/TP £203 80 ORF-CLT-ORD I/I AA.com
21MAY £2.08/TP £250 120 YYZ-PHL/LGA-CLT-ORF/PHF I/I/I AA.com
22NOV £1.43/TP £172 120 DCA-(LGA/BOS/PHL)-CLT-RDU (one way, reverse works as well) I/I/I ITA->BWM->priceline.com

From Middle East, Asia and Australasia
23Feb £0.99/TP £356 360 TPE-xKUL-PEN(JHB)-xKUL-TPE Z http://www.malaysiaairlines.com ermen two day min stay, promo fare MH
04JAN £1.10/TP £44 40 KUL-PEN D http://www.malaysiaairlines.com/uk/en.html fitch Works in both directions, rtn £80 if you can make the timnings work MH
11Nov £0.85/TP £307 360 TPE-KUL-SIN-KUL-TPE Z http://www.malaysiaairlines.com neofung

From Africa


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Need a year-end TP run (ex-LON) to make / retain status?
Some tips for searching for the year-end TP run for newcomers, the below is indicative only, but hopefully provides a bit of guidance for relatively straightforward runs ex-LON. The guide to using ITA matrix in post #4 (see here) along with these ideas, might come in handy. Feel free to share results, problems or general questions in the thread as these may not always work and there might be better deals out there...

For overnight trips remember to check BA and Iberia for their flights and hotel option as well, can get hotel for almost no extra cost at times

Need 80 TPs or fewer
Club Europe return somewhere close by is best - DUB, AMS and JER usually cheapest. AMS and JER easier than DUB for an immediate turnaround. The BA.com low fare finder can be very useful.

If you need as few as 45 TPs you might consider booking economy flights and hoping for a proactive online upgrade offer - but they're not guaranteed to materialise (so not one if you have no more time left in your TP collection year). Alternatively, booking a return to one of the 40 tier point destinations with one way in CE and the return in ET (or vice versa if cheaper). Bilbao, Jersey and Amsterdam seems the most cost effective for this.

Need 85-120 TPs
Iberia flights via MAD to regional Spanish airports will get you 120 TPs as the domestic Spanish flights are 20 TPs in business. Under £300 including hotel can be available. Check BIO, GRX, VLC, BCN, SVQ etc. Example here

Need 125-160 TPs
Take a look at the shorthaul plus routes earning 80 TPs each way in business listed in the first post (here) MLA, IST, HEL and RAK are usually available. If time sensitive take a look at BA flight and hotel option to HEL, where you can usually get the last BA flight out on a Saturday, airport hotel and first return Sunday for well under £500.

Alternative options include positioning to JER and flying JER-LGW-XXX (AMS usually works well and avoids switching airports)

Need more than 160 TPs
You'll most likely be heading north then - OSL or VNO via HEL will get you 240 TPs, as will JER-LGW/LHR-HEL e.g. LHR-HEL-OSL for £520. Also the BA fare for LHR-HEL-TLL at ~£235 is still available and would get 200 TPs for a return.

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Old May 16, 2017, 6:19 am
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You can also shuttle via HEL should you wish. You could also drop the last sector and throw in a few TLL-HEL-LHR returns after, if you were so inclined
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Old May 16, 2017, 6:25 am
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Originally Posted by rossmacd
You can also shuttle via HEL should you wish. You could also drop the last sector and throw in a few TLL-HEL-LHR returns after, if you were so inclined
Oh interesting. I thought HEL wouldn't be possible since it states:

THE FARE COMPONENT MUST INCLUDE TRAVEL VIA EACH TRANSATLANTIC SECTOR ON ONE OR MORE OF THE FOLLOWING - ANY AA FLIGHT OPERATED BY AA.
However, it seems to allow AA marketed flights so you can take an AY operated TATL.
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Old May 16, 2017, 6:25 am
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The MAD - MIA routing ??

Is this proper Business Class lie flat bed on all flights ?
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Old May 16, 2017, 6:27 am
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Originally Posted by dolfinco
The MAD - MIA routing ??

Is this proper Business Class lie flat bed on all flights ?
Absolutely. Better than CW in my opinion.
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Old May 16, 2017, 6:27 am
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Oh interesting. I thought HEL wouldn't be possible since it states:



However, it seems to allow AA marketed flights so you can take an AY operated TATL.
I thought exactly the same, but it also appears you can take AA-coded but IB operated sectors on the TATL aswell.
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Old May 16, 2017, 6:32 am
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Originally Posted by rossmacd
Absolutely. Better than CW in my opinion.
When im puting the 6123 and 3464 into seatguru its brining up A330 and A319 with no lie flat ?
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Old May 16, 2017, 6:38 am
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When im puting the 6123 and 3464 into seatguru its brining up A330 and A319 with no lie flat ?
AA6132, I think, is LHR-PHL operated by BA, so that is normally a 747. Not sure how you will get this flight on the ZRH-SFO/LAX itinerary as it forbids transfers via LON.

IB3464 is MAD-ZRH, which is operated by a A319/A320, hence no lie-flats.

In all honesty, please don't trust SeatGuru - it is sh!te.
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Old May 16, 2017, 6:38 am
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anyone been able to actually price the more complex ones successfully?

I can get them on matrix but both googleflights and aa.com goes up significantly for the 'fun' routing (it does work for more vanilla routing).
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Old May 16, 2017, 6:39 am
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Originally Posted by dolfinco
When im puting the 6123 and 3464 into seatguru its brining up A330 and A319 with no lie flat ?
IB 330 has flat beds.

AY has 3 versions - one is theirs with flat bed, one is IB's with flat beds and a 3rd says it has flat beds but is a more dense / non 1-2-1 config.
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Old May 16, 2017, 6:43 am
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anyone been able to actually price the more complex ones successfully?

I can get them on matrix but both googleflights and aa.com goes up significantly for the 'fun' routing (it does work for more vanilla routing).
Yes, works perfectly. See below. Use Powertools add-on for Matrix. (Ok, its about £20 GBP out, but I wont be splitting hairs on that )
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Old May 16, 2017, 6:45 am
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Originally Posted by rossmacd
AA6132, I think, is LHR-PHL operated by BA, so that is normally a 747. Not sure how you will get this flight on the ZRH-SFO/LAX itinerary as it forbids transfers via LON.

IB3464 is MAD-ZRH, which is operated by a A319/A320, hence no lie-flats.

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Old May 16, 2017, 6:50 am
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Ah sorry, I thought you were quoting the AA codes

I will leave others more qualified to advise on the IB A330 seating - I have never been on an IB A330 before.

Can you not select the AA flight MAD-MIA? It is flight AA69 - on a 777.
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Old May 16, 2017, 6:54 am
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Originally Posted by dolfinco
The MAD - MIA routing ??

Is this proper Business Class lie flat bed on all flights ?
It is not guaranteed. About 10% of AA's 777 fleet has angle flat seats, although they are rarely used on MIA-MAD.

See the wiki at https://www.flyertalk.com/forum/amer...ssion-119.html
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Old May 16, 2017, 6:54 am
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Originally Posted by rossmacd
Ah sorry, I thought you were quoting the AA codes

I will leave others more qualified to advise on the IB A330 seating - I have never been on an IB A330 before.

Can you not select the AA flight MAD-MIA? It is flight AA69 - on a 777.
I dont seem to get that option. The AA flights are sending me via JFK ?

Might be my dates.
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Old May 16, 2017, 6:56 am
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I will leave others more qualified to advise on the IB A330 seating - I have never been on an IB A330 before.
AFAIK all A332 and A333 have the staggered layout.
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