Dec 13, 2016, 11:12 pm
Last edit by: NWIFlyer
Routes to/from LGW*/LCY/STN are NOT affected. Only flights to/from LHR* are potentially affected. If you think you may be affected, post 2714 (click here) may be helpful.
*The LGW-JFK flight has seen a lot of cancellations for the current strike period.
Current strike period:
Next announced strike period:
Previous strike periods:
Routes affected:
As a possible indication, for the fifth strike period BA announced the following cancellations:
http://www.flyertalk.com/forum/27910044-post2131.html as well as flights to and from Doha on all affected days (17 - 20 February).
Mixed fleet routes are listed here, though note that other (non Mixed Fleet) flights from Heathrow are also being cancelled.
Note for context in terms of how many routes might actually be affected: there are about 4000 members of MF (of which ~2,700 are Unite members and therefore eligible to take industrial action) and 15,000 total cabin crew
Background Details from BA:
Strike 19th July-1st August
2nd August-16th August
Background Details from Unite:
http://www.unitetheunion.org/news/br...ty-pay-levels/
http://www.unitetheunion.org/news/br...refuses-talks/
Latest negotiating position:
Talks at ACAS in June appear to have failed, with a further two week strike commencing 1st July announced on 16th June.
Key upcoming dates:
Ballot results for industrial action:
*The LGW-JFK flight has seen a lot of cancellations for the current strike period.
Current strike period:
- None
Next announced strike period:
Previous strike periods:
- 25th December 2016 from 00:01 for 48 hours. (Strike action was suspended following ACAS discussions and revised offer.)
- 10th & 11th January 2017
- 19th January 2017 for 72 hours until 21st January
- 5th-7th & 9th-11th February 2017
- 17th-20th February 2017
- 22nd-25th February 2017
- 3rd-9th March 2017
- 16th-19th June 2017 (suspended pending further ACAS talks)
- 1st-16th July 2017
- 19th July-1st August 2017
- 2nd-15th August 2017
- 16th-30th August 2017
Routes affected:
As a possible indication, for the fifth strike period BA announced the following cancellations:
http://www.flyertalk.com/forum/27910044-post2131.html as well as flights to and from Doha on all affected days (17 - 20 February).
Mixed fleet routes are listed here, though note that other (non Mixed Fleet) flights from Heathrow are also being cancelled.
Note for context in terms of how many routes might actually be affected: there are about 4000 members of MF (of which ~2,700 are Unite members and therefore eligible to take industrial action) and 15,000 total cabin crew
Background Details from BA:
Strike 19th July-1st August
2nd August-16th August
Background Details from Unite:
http://www.unitetheunion.org/news/br...ty-pay-levels/
http://www.unitetheunion.org/news/br...refuses-talks/
Latest negotiating position:
Talks at ACAS in June appear to have failed, with a further two week strike commencing 1st July announced on 16th June.
Key upcoming dates:
- Latest negotiated position (@ 23rd Oct 2017) between BA & Unite to be balloted. Rumoured that the union is recommending acceptance.
Ballot results for industrial action:
- First ballot, November 2016: Yes 79.5%, No 20.5%
- Second ballot, December 2016: Yes 70%, No 30%
- Third ballot, March 2017: Yes 56%, No 44%, turnout 72%
BA 'Mixed Fleet' cabin crew dispute [agreement reached]
Jan 8, 2017, 5:31 pm
#1337
Join Date: May 2006
Location: London Heathrow
Programs: British Airways Executive Club
Posts: 719
They get £3 an hour from check in until landing back in the UK. 40% of that £3 an hour is taxed at a more preferential rate, as it has been demonstrated to the HMRC that it is used downroute. Crew get a hotel room but no sustenance downroute. So the £3 an hour is for everything from breakfast to a cup of coffee.
Jan 9, 2017, 12:46 am
#1338
Join Date: Apr 2014
Programs: BA Exec Club Gold, Hilton Diamond, IHG Platinum, Marriott Bonvoy Platinum
Posts: 214
They get £3 an hour from check in until landing back in the UK. 40% of that £3 an hour is taxed at a more preferential rate, as it has been demonstrated to the HMRC that it is used downroute. Crew get a hotel room but no sustenance downroute. So the £3 an hour is for everything from breakfast to a cup of coffee.
I am shocked by that ...
Jan 9, 2017, 5:14 am
#1339
Join Date: Dec 2004
Location: Miami Beach FL, Philadelphia PA, and Oxfordshire UK
Programs: BA Gold, AA Executive Platinum, PriorityPass, Global Entry, Marriott Platinum
Posts: 737
Just received this email from BA regarding the strike and my flight to PHL on the 12th in First this week.... quite surprised by that TBH. Wasn't aware there were going to be issues like this on board operating LH flights.
I'm not a big fan of on board catering in general - I tend to just eat something for something to do.
Dear Mr Jet Ranger,
The trade union, Unite, which represents some of our cabin crew, is taking industrial action on 10th and 11th January and we would like to reassure you that we are planning to operate your flight as normal.
We are planning to offer the vast majority of our onboard experience in our First class cabins and all of our ground services such as dedicated check-in, Fast Track Security and lounge access will also be available as normal.
Unfortunately due to Unite’s actions, we have been unable to plan with any certainty how many cabin crew will be available on each flight to undertake every aspect of our normal onboard service routines.
For this reason we have taken the precautionary decision to offer First customers on all affected routes the same choice of meals as we offer in Club World.
Regrettably this affects your flight and we are sorry that on this occasion we are not able to deliver our usual level of meal service.
If you had pre-ordered your First meal and now wish to choose in advance from our Club World menu please do so on ba.com. This is available up to 24 hours before your departure.
As a gesture of goodwill we would like to offer you a credit of 10,000 Avios.
This will be added to your account in the days following your flight.
Given the complexity of our global catering and cabin crew operations, there may continue to be some changes to our meal service routines in the 48 hours following the end of the planned industrial action.
Thank you for your understanding and we look forward to welcoming you on board.
I'm not a big fan of on board catering in general - I tend to just eat something for something to do.
Dear Mr Jet Ranger,
The trade union, Unite, which represents some of our cabin crew, is taking industrial action on 10th and 11th January and we would like to reassure you that we are planning to operate your flight as normal.
We are planning to offer the vast majority of our onboard experience in our First class cabins and all of our ground services such as dedicated check-in, Fast Track Security and lounge access will also be available as normal.
Unfortunately due to Unite’s actions, we have been unable to plan with any certainty how many cabin crew will be available on each flight to undertake every aspect of our normal onboard service routines.
For this reason we have taken the precautionary decision to offer First customers on all affected routes the same choice of meals as we offer in Club World.
Regrettably this affects your flight and we are sorry that on this occasion we are not able to deliver our usual level of meal service.
If you had pre-ordered your First meal and now wish to choose in advance from our Club World menu please do so on ba.com. This is available up to 24 hours before your departure.
As a gesture of goodwill we would like to offer you a credit of 10,000 Avios.
This will be added to your account in the days following your flight.
Given the complexity of our global catering and cabin crew operations, there may continue to be some changes to our meal service routines in the 48 hours following the end of the planned industrial action.
Thank you for your understanding and we look forward to welcoming you on board.
Jan 9, 2017, 5:40 am
#1342
Join Date: Jul 2014
Location: Wedged somewhere between BTS and VIE ✈
Programs: Star Alliance Gold (A3 Gold), Oneworld Emerald (BA Gold), Hilton Diamond
Posts: 6,338
Jan 9, 2017, 5:41 am
#1344
Moderator, Iberia Airlines, Airport Lounges, and Ambassador, British Airways Executive Club
Join Date: Feb 2010
Programs: BA Lifetime Gold; Flying Blue Life Platinum; LH Sen.; Hilton Diamond; Kemal Kebabs Prized Customer
Posts: 63,818
I struggled with that for a minute or two. But I would guess the answer is that they anticipate not having sufficient First trained staff - or staffing levels - available. The First meals need to be plated in a particular way, they have a chart to work off, it takes time if you haven't done it very often in the past (and hence the delay in service often reported here). So as a precaution they are providing CW food in First to make it easier to roster crews for the flight, rather than for flight and cabin. Just my guess, I've not been told anything here.
Jan 9, 2017, 5:42 am
#1345
Join Date: Dec 2013
Location: Michigan & Florida
Programs: BA Gold
Posts: 11
I just received the same email for BA209 to Miami on Wednesday. Tried to log on to select my Club Grub but not surprisingly the link is not working. Does anyone by chance have the CW menu for BA209 this week?
Suggestions as to how I can donate my 10K Avios compensation to MF to assist with commuting costs would be appreciated.
Suggestions as to how I can donate my 10K Avios compensation to MF to assist with commuting costs would be appreciated.
Jan 9, 2017, 5:43 am
#1346
Join Date: Oct 2013
Location: LON, MAD
Programs: KE MC Premium, BA Gold, Hilton Diamond, AZ FA+, Melia Gold
Posts: 305
Wouldn't be surprised if this is intentional by BA, get high value customers slightly inconvenienced by the strike, they're (theoretically) less likely to have sympathy for the strikers.
Pretty ridiculous game to play, unless someone can verify that crew uncertainty would affect the meals. Also assume this only applies to MF flights?
Pretty ridiculous game to play, unless someone can verify that crew uncertainty would affect the meals. Also assume this only applies to MF flights?
Jan 9, 2017, 5:44 am
#1347
Join Date: Jul 2009
Programs: BAEC Silver, IHG Diamond
Posts: 7,770
So, if you have a broken seat, no IFE, no food at all etc. in F, you get 4500 Avios yet having to have eat something not too dissimilar, it gets you 10000?
Seat cushion? Is that a pillow as I thought the seat cushions (or just AA?) were removable and could be used as flotation devices?
Seat cushion? Is that a pillow as I thought the seat cushions (or just AA?) were removable and could be used as flotation devices?
Jan 9, 2017, 5:47 am
#1348
Moderator: Qatar Airways
Join Date: Jan 2014
Location: LHR/NCE/MIA
Programs: BAEC GfL & GGL, SQ Gold, Amex Centurion, Mucci des Chevaliers des Bons Mots et Qui Savent Moucher
Posts: 8,948
Jan 9, 2017, 5:57 am
#1350
Join Date: Aug 2012
Location: Provincie Antwerpen, Vlaanderen, België
Programs: MUCCI Gold
Posts: 2,512
