defabrizio

Silver class in BA, but this is the first time I've flown so far, from Heathrow to Canberra Australia via Singapore (31 hours door to door). Ecomony seat was around £1,100 and I decided to go for the Premium Economy at £3,700 thinking it would be as advertised. The difference to Business Class was only about another £1,000. Imagine my surprise when the seats were not much bigger than economy, plastic dishes (advertised as china and glass), one of the most popular beverages (Baileys) was not available on either flight. Blankets were the same as Economy, pillow not much better (actually looked worse). Getting steamed by this time and no sleep. Food was horrible. So I complained to BA via their web form while I was sitting in the Singpore boarding lounge waiting for the next leg. I figured they owed me either a refund between Economy and what I paid, or an upgrade on my return leg. No surprise, they weren't interested, even when I told them they can get sued for false advertising. They claim they couldn't do either as 'we have to treat all customers fairly'. To me this was a laugh - I guess they're misleading everyone. So I decided to post my experience on some different websites.

Anyone else have similar horror stories on long haul flights?

MichaelBaku

Remember PE is essentially an Economy Class product. Where do they advertise you get better blankets and pillows/Baileys. I assume you got the enhanced legroom? From what you write, apart from the tablewear, they provided what was advertised. However, I sympathize with you - that fare difference is huge. Vote with you feet next time. There's no way I'd pay 3,700 for BA to take me to Australia and back.

Mwenenzi

defabrizio Welcome to the forum. We hope you stick around

The quality and features of BA PE is well know. Its premium economy. It is not business minus.

Did you check the price of all the airlines UK to Australia? Its a very competitive route.

keisari

They are unlikely to refund you anything but for future reference, if you want your complain to be taken seriously, NEVER threaten to sue. That is a total turn-off and it is unlikely to be taken seriously.

Premium Economy is hit or miss depending on the airline and the segment flown. In general it is not worth it unless the cost is very little above economy.

84fiero

Doesn't sound like a horror story to me, rather that you had unfounded expectations. Thinking they will reimburse you for that or much less get sued for it is pretty unrealistic. Here is BA's ad page for WT+

https://www.britishairways.com/en-us...traveller-plus

They have pics and a link to a video of an example WT+ seat, it plainly isn't substantially different from a regular economy seat in terms of size - not by the same magnitude as a Business class seat is. I don't see any promise of "better" blankets and pillows nor a guaranteed list of specific liquors. Whether the food was "horrible" is subjective and not something anyone should realistically expect a refund over, much less legal action!

In short I don't see much of substance that should have been a surprise to you, even just going by BA's website information.

In the future I'd recommend researching potential airline options here on the FT forums, SeatGuru (which despite its shortfalls would have illustrated the basic areas you are upset about here), and just a plain old Google search. For example "BA world traveler plus review" brings up many hits including videos of the seats, cabin and inflight experience.

FN-GM

You should do your research before you book. Premium economy isn't that great.

I have just booked Business Class with Singapore Airlines to Australia for £3,000 (paid for no points not do I have any status (Anymore)). Next time have a look at all the options.

Raffles

Etihad was selling business class out of Athens to Sydney for £1600 last week with a 6 month window to travel. This is the new A380 as well. You could have also got the same route on Virgin Australia for £1200.

As long as you happy starting in mainland Europe there is usually someone selling J for around £2000

Often1

I lose a great deal of sympathy, even when the underlying complaint is justified, when they use terms such as "horror story". To me that connotes the FA spitting in my soup in front of me or some such.

While it is true that the BA website does, in fact, specify "fine china" (not merely in a picture, but in a specific bullet point) and a "full bar", I tend to see that as small stuff and, if OP wants to sue, he may collect his damages, e.g., the value of food served on other than fine china and the value of an after-dinner drink.

The bottom line is that this is someone who did not do thorough research as to the things that matter. He could have flown J on other carriers and routes for less than he paid for WTP on BA.

tom911

So BA offers the same seating configuration in premium economy as they do in regular economy? Same amount of seats per row no matter where you sit?

Qantas, on the other hand, has less seats in their premium economy rows and a small footrest.



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1010101

Sorry, but its really your fault for not doing your research. It's premium economy, which means its a better version of economy, not a business minus or even half way between business and economy. You were just unfortunate that it was priced so much higher as it is normally much closer to economy.

Surely if you are BA Silver you have at least walked past a Premium Economy seat before?

beckoa

Welcome to the posting side of FT defabrizio.

As this is BA specific that's where we're relocating your thread.

~beckoa, co-moderator Information Desk

themapelligroup

I can't see why BA should owe you anything. They provided the service you paid for, to me that is the standard WTP treatment, which by the way I find good. You should have made researches before booking your flights, the web and FT are full of reports about BA cabins.

timezonehopper

This isn't the case, BA premium economy is 2-4-2 compared, e.g. to 3-3-3 in economy on a 777.

simons1

Unrealistic expectations I would say. I certainly wouldn't pay £3,200 for PE to Australia.

Palmer

I seem to recall that the blanket is slightly thicker and maybe a little darker but I stand to be corrected.

Isn't the cabin in a different configuration? Same seats but less of them, so a bit more personal space?

Palmer