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Old May 26, 2015, 5:31 am
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Originally Posted by Leodiensian
Small tip on complaining. Don't threaten legal action unless you really mean it, and only after taking independent legal advice. I run part of a business (a well known online retailer) with hundreds of millions of customers worldwide. If an unhappy customer mentions legal action the complaint will be immediately routed to an in-house lawyer who will be far more likely to follow strictly internal policies and will know the case law backwards. In general being reasonable, polite, concise and being clear about what you actually want as redress will get you a better outcome. Supervisors in customer services will likely have some discretion and flexibility. Lawyers aren't really known for this.
+1. Excellent advice. Many people think that threatening legal action will "scare" a company into being more flexible. It is exactly the other way round. Typically, the customer service person receiving the letter couldn't worry less as to whether a customer will sue the company/airline etc or not. The only thing they know is that they have specialists that can assess whether the legal situation is safe or not and pass the file on to them. And if it is assessed that this is really an empty threat and you really don't have a leg to stand on and you have shown to be in controntational mood which means that a small gesture of goodwill will likely not make you any happier, you can expect to receive a polite "go for it if that is what you want thank you, we cannot do anything for you".

Incidentally, since none of us has mentioned it before, this extra detour to the in house lawyer may also well have contributed to the slower answer to the OP.
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Old May 26, 2015, 5:52 am
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Originally Posted by MichaelBaku
Remember PE is essentially an Economy Class product. Where do they advertise you get better blankets and pillows/Baileys. I assume you got the enhanced legroom? From what you write, apart from the tablewear, they provided what was advertised. However, I sympathize with you - that fare difference is huge. Vote with you feet next time. There's no way I'd pay 3,700 for BA to take me to Australia and back.
Totally agree. Beggars belief that you would pay such a huge fare increase for WT+. Especially when I imagine there would have been a business class ticket available for similar pricing with other carriers.
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Old May 27, 2015, 1:43 am
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Originally Posted by orbitmic
you can expect to receive a polite "go for it if that is what you want thank you, we cannot do anything for you".
+1 Been there, done that. Number of lawsuits filed as a result: 0
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Old May 27, 2015, 2:53 am
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Seems as if it still holds true, there's a national loyalty for some people for their countries own national airline...
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Old May 27, 2015, 4:30 am
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Originally Posted by Ldnn1
Just checked and you can fly London to Sydney TODAY in business for £2000! MH on the A380 for £3000. Sorry OP but you really have had a mare here. Lesson learnt for next time...
Yup...some toys being thrown out of the pram by OP here I think.
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Old May 27, 2015, 5:42 am
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Not surprised we have not heard back from the OP following this storm of vituperation. We all make mistakes and the time is approaching (certainly for this Ft'er anyway) when BA's repeated failure to deliver what they advertise will mean that other airlines get the business. Like most of us I can't be bothered to complain when - time and again - the IFE doesn't work/charging point in the seat doesn't work, etc, etc - but all these things are promised, so should be delivered and I don't see why someone shouldn't complain about it when the product is not as advertised - even if I can't be bothered to do it myself.
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Old May 27, 2015, 5:49 am
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British Airways misses big time

The OP outed himself as a troll by proclaiming Air Canada as the best airline in the world. He'll be having a good laugh right now.
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Old May 27, 2015, 6:02 am
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Originally Posted by paul4040
The OP outed himself as a troll by proclaiming Air Canada as the best airline in the world. He'll be having a good laugh right now.

Well, anyone who not only thinks that but is prepared to say it clearly doesn't get out much, so I'm guessing its more likely to be down to inexperience rather than trolling.... and its those of us who don't happen to share that view who are going to be the ones having the last laugh.
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Old May 27, 2015, 6:58 am
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Originally Posted by gypsyjaney
Not surprised we have not heard back from the OP following this storm of vituperation. We all make mistakes and the time is approaching (certainly for this Ft'er anyway) when BA's repeated failure to deliver what they advertise will mean that other airlines get the business. Like most of us I can't be bothered to complain when - time and again - the IFE doesn't work/charging point in the seat doesn't work, etc, etc - but all these things are promised, so should be delivered and I don't see why someone shouldn't complain about it when the product is not as advertised - even if I can't be bothered to do it myself.
But wasn't the point that the service was very much as advertised, even to the point that the OP was disappointed that it was the same as the previous time they flew in WT+?
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Old May 27, 2015, 7:07 am
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Originally Posted by WilcoRoger
+1 Been there, done that. Number of lawsuits filed as a result: 0
BA turned down my EU261 compensation request last year. After 3 cycles of back and forth i threatened small claims. They said go ahead. I went ahead. I was paid a week later.

Its a valuable tool, if used at the right time. First correspondence is not the right time.
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Old May 27, 2015, 12:16 pm
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Originally Posted by Paralytic
BA turned down my EU261 compensation request last year. After 3 cycles of back and forth i threatened small claims. They said go ahead. I went ahead. I was paid a week later.

Its a valuable tool, if used at the right time. First correspondence is not the right time.
Good for you!

(just to make things clear, I do not work in the aviation industry, so my remark was of a more general nature and referred to my non-aviation experience)
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