Why do pilots "fib"
May 5, 2015, 10:26 am
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This has been bothering me for a while. Have relatively benign winds from the prevailing direction always caused significant delays at LHR or is it a recent phenomena? In 15 years plus of regular travel, weather delays in fairly normal conditions seem to have increased hugely.
May 5, 2015, 10:29 am
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This has been bothering me for a while. Have relatively benign winds from the prevailing direction always caused significant delays at LHR or is it a recent phenomena? In 15 years plus of regular travel, weather delays in fairly normal conditions seem to have increased hugely/
Someone previous mentioned time vs distance based separation as being a potential solution?
This has been bothering me for a while. Have relatively benign winds from the prevailing direction always caused significant delays at LHR or is it a recent phenomena? In 15 years plus of regular travel, weather delays in fairly normal conditions seem to have increased hugely/
Someone previous mentioned time vs distance based separation as being a potential solution?
Have a look at this NATS video that explains the problem and solution.
Just seen this video too. not sure if the two concepts are related mind.
Last edited by ACARS; May 5, 2015 at 10:34 am
May 5, 2015, 10:33 am
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May 5, 2015, 10:33 am
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The solution as mentioned on previous threads is time based separation. The problem is nothing new but I suppose increase in air traffic has highlighted the problem more in recent years.
Have a look at this NATS video that explains the problem and solution.
Have a look at this NATS video that explains the problem and solution.
EDIT: just to add that, whislt he did think there would be an improvement, he was not convinced it would be quite as good as that!
May 5, 2015, 10:35 am
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Is this now implemented? I was similarly held at HEL a few weeks ago due to high winds at LHR. I was chatting to the captain whilst we waited and he was suggest NATS were hoping for a 50% improvement on arrival rates with the new system when compared to without.
EDIT: just to add that, whislt he did think there would be an improvement, he was not convinced it would be quite as good as that!
EDIT: just to add that, whislt he did think there would be an improvement, he was not convinced it would be quite as good as that!
May 5, 2015, 10:37 am
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May 5, 2015, 10:41 am
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This has been bothering me for a while. Have relatively benign winds from the prevailing direction always caused significant delays at LHR or is it a recent phenomena? I
This has been bothering me for a while. Have relatively benign winds from the prevailing direction always caused significant delays at LHR or is it a recent phenomena? I
May 5, 2015, 10:48 am
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As an en-route controller as opposed to approach I can't comment on specifics. The latest I'd heard was full operation service as of May 1, so in theory the delays due to headwind components shouldn't be as bad as if regular distance spacing was being used. Having been at work this morning, typically inbound flights were holding for around 15mins.
May 5, 2015, 11:03 am
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May 5, 2015, 11:28 am
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It's been spectacularly windy in London today. I thought our windows were going to come in.
I'm in London, so clearly we have different definitions of "spectacular". It's a bit breezy sure, but extreme delays? Obviously the price, yet again, of HAL operating with zero contingency.
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This has been bothering me for a while. Have relatively benign winds from the prevailing direction always caused significant delays at LHR or is it a recent phenomena? I
This has been bothering me for a while. Have relatively benign winds from the prevailing direction always caused significant delays at LHR or is it a recent phenomena? I
May 5, 2015, 11:33 am
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Have a look at this NATS video that explains the problem and solution.
Just seen this video too. not sure if the two concepts are related mind.
Just seen this video too. not sure if the two concepts are related mind.