Duty free and customs when returning from Ex-EU trip
#61
Join Date: Feb 2015
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When connecting through LHR on to a domestic sector I always assumed you declared what you wanted at your final destination whether you had kept it on you or had it in your checked luggage. I've never seen anything written down telling me to do otherwise.
Seems a silly rule to have when you could just put it in your checked luggage as soon as you collect it.
Seems a silly rule to have when you could just put it in your checked luggage as soon as you collect it.
#62
Join Date: Mar 2008
Location: GLA
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What will happen if I am travelling on to another EU (air)port?
It will depend on whether your MIB [merchandise in baggage] is in your cabin or hold baggage.
(a) hold baggage - if your MIB is in the hold of the aircraft and is in transit to another EU airport, you will not be able to declare it in the UK. It cannot be dealt with until you clear your hold baggage at your final destination
(b) cabin baggage:
transit passengers - if your MIB is in your cabin baggage and, after a short stopover in the UK, you are travelling on to another EU airport on the same aircraft, your cabin baggage should be declared at your final destination
transfer passengers - if your MIB is in your cabin baggage, and you are travelling on to another EU airport on a different aircraft, you must declare the goods in the UK. You will have the option of either paying any customs charges, or completing a Community Transit (CT) declaration for the MIB to be cleared at your final destination. Note: to avoid transfer delays you are strongly advised to carry MIB goods in your hold baggage for clearance at your final destination
Yes, that would make sense, but I just wasn't sure if there were any odd rules about merely transiting outside the EU before immediately coming back, and whether that is truly "exporting" the goods from the EU.
#63
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As I said, badly thought out.
The thing is if you were for example bringing in a swiss watch as a gift, that cost
And your routing was ZRH-LON-MAN. It make sense that you declare it at London.
Otherwise, if you were not honest, you could walk out of the terminal, give the gift to (?)
Re enter the controls and catch your DOM flight.
In reality, I am sure this happens all the time....
The thing is if you were for example bringing in a swiss watch as a gift, that cost
And your routing was ZRH-LON-MAN. It make sense that you declare it at London.
Otherwise, if you were not honest, you could walk out of the terminal, give the gift to (?)
Re enter the controls and catch your DOM flight.
In reality, I am sure this happens all the time....
#64
Join Date: Jan 2014
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Also on their website (admittedly this is for commercial goods, but the same principle applies):
What will happen if I am travelling on to another EU (air)port?
It will depend on whether your MIB [merchandise in baggage] is in your cabin or hold baggage.
(a) hold baggage - if your MIB is in the hold of the aircraft and is in transit to another EU airport, you will not be able to declare it in the UK. It cannot be dealt with until you clear your hold baggage at your final destination
(b) cabin baggage:
transit passengers - if your MIB is in your cabin baggage and, after a short stopover in the UK, you are travelling on to another EU airport on the same aircraft, your cabin baggage should be declared at your final destination
transfer passengers - if your MIB is in your cabin baggage, and you are travelling on to another EU airport on a different aircraft, you must declare the goods in the UK. You will have the option of either paying any customs charges, or completing a Community Transit (CT) declaration for the MIB to be cleared at your final destination. Note: to avoid transfer delays you are strongly advised to carry MIB goods in your hold baggage for clearance at your final destination
Yes, that would make sense, but I just wasn't sure if there were any odd rules about merely transiting outside the EU before immediately coming back, and whether that is truly "exporting" the goods from the EU.
What will happen if I am travelling on to another EU (air)port?
It will depend on whether your MIB [merchandise in baggage] is in your cabin or hold baggage.
(a) hold baggage - if your MIB is in the hold of the aircraft and is in transit to another EU airport, you will not be able to declare it in the UK. It cannot be dealt with until you clear your hold baggage at your final destination
(b) cabin baggage:
transit passengers - if your MIB is in your cabin baggage and, after a short stopover in the UK, you are travelling on to another EU airport on the same aircraft, your cabin baggage should be declared at your final destination
transfer passengers - if your MIB is in your cabin baggage, and you are travelling on to another EU airport on a different aircraft, you must declare the goods in the UK. You will have the option of either paying any customs charges, or completing a Community Transit (CT) declaration for the MIB to be cleared at your final destination. Note: to avoid transfer delays you are strongly advised to carry MIB goods in your hold baggage for clearance at your final destination
Yes, that would make sense, but I just wasn't sure if there were any odd rules about merely transiting outside the EU before immediately coming back, and whether that is truly "exporting" the goods from the EU.
In my case the export declaration is all electronic and is of course made by me when leaving from ex-EU (non-UK). I do get a stamped slip - but this is only having the reference number to the declaration on it.
So how on Earth am I meant to prove the country of origin to UK customs on my return leg say NYC-LON-SOMEWHEREINEU ??? Typically I travel with some checked in and some in the carry on.
Nowadays I always declare the whole thing when re-entering my country of departure and it has never raised any issues. There is no duty to be collected anyway, but just interested in how exactly I am meant to prove the country of origin to UK customs when all I have is an export receipt with a reference number to a foreign customs system...
edit: Well I guess I have kind of answered my own question. I should complete a transiting goods form... Meh, doubt I can be bothered with that anytime soon. Have to do those forms often enough when transiting Norway! (and then it is very important as it is non-EU - to avoid paying silly fees)
#65
Join Date: Dec 2004
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I would also add, particularly if you're importing something very expensive, that some research into the correct harmonised commodity code could be highly advantageous - there are many duty bands for import from many countries which are 0% ... and equally some up at low single or double digit percentages, which could make an enormous difference to the bill!
Getting money back once you've declared under a wrong code is a herculean task (I know, having recently been part of trying to do it with HMRC when a courier ignored our instructions and declared under a non-zero percentage code). Best to get it right up-front ...
Getting money back once you've declared under a wrong code is a herculean task (I know, having recently been part of trying to do it with HMRC when a courier ignored our instructions and declared under a non-zero percentage code). Best to get it right up-front ...