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from DUB to US IJN8S4Z1 reported here, e.g. JFK - €1,074, MIA - €1,119, LAS - €1,224, LAX - €1,296, HNL - €1,623, needs to be booked by 2 February, for outbound travel over Easter and summer 2016, see linked post for details
from DUB to US ILN8S4Z1 reported here, e.g. JFK - €920, MIA - €958, LAS - €1,048, LAX - €1,110, needs to be booked by 2 February, for outbound travel over November and Christmas & New Year 2016, see linked post for details
from DUB to US ILR28AP reported here, e.g. JFK - €1,538, MIA - €1,601, LAS - €1,751, LAX - €1,854, HNL - €1,834, this is an advanced purchase fare so no book by deadline, no stopovers, see linked post for details
from DUB to US ILN8S4E1 reported here, e.g. JFK - €1,538, MIA - €1,601, LAS - €1,751, LAX - €1,854, HNL - €1,834, this is an advanced purchase fare so no book by deadline, allows stopovers for €75, see linked post for details
from CPH to US ILR21AP reported here, e.g. JFK - £890, MIA - £1,132, ORD - £942, LAX - £1,277, HNL - £1,361, this is an advanced purchase fare so no book by deadline, no stopovers, see linked post for details
from CPH to US ILN2S4E1 reported here, JFK - £890, MIA - £1,132, ORD - £942, LAX - £1,277, HNL - £1,361, this is an advanced purchase fare so no book by deadline, allows stopovers for €75, see linked post for details
ILN2S4Z1 from OSL to HNL (19.5k/21.5k NOK (£1,520/£1,675) via. LON or via. HEL & LON)
PERMITTED 23NOV 15 THROUGH 28NOV 15 OR 22DEC 15 THROUGH
01JAN 16 OR 27MAR 16 THROUGH 31MAR 16 ON THE OUTBOUND
TRANSATLANTIC SECTOR.

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This thread lists attractive tier point (TP) runs under £3 per TP grouped within different (departure) geographies

Please note the following:

Current availability is not guaranteed.
All prices include taxes.

Convert currencies to GBP, rounding to the nearest pound.
Post full routes and full booking classes.
Note any restrictions on booking in the Notes section.
List in order of price per tier point within the relevant departure area.

From Europe
17DEC | £0.75/TP | £909 | 1200 | DUB-LHR-JFK-PHX-HNL-PHX-JFK-LHR-DUB | I/I/A/A/A/A/I/I | aa.com | perthflyer | BA AA
30JUL | £0.93/TP | £335 | 360 | JER-LGW-SSH-LGW-JER | J/I/I/J | ba.com | dom462 | CE | BA
01 NOV | £0.99/TP | £1343 | 1360 | CPH-HEL-LHR-JFK-PHX-HNL-PHX-JFK-LHR-HEL-CPH | I/I/I/A/P/P/A/I/I/I | ITA Matrix | MrMutton
19 AUG | £1.01/TP | £1,375 (1938 EUR) | 1360 | DUB-HEL-LON-JFK-PHX-HNL-PHX-JFK-LHR-HEL-DUB | IIIAAAAIII | OttoMH | J/F | AY BA AA
16 AUG | £1.22/TP | £1,675 (21.5k NOK) | 1360 | OSL-HEL-LON-JFK-PHX-HNL-PHX-JFK-LHR-HEL-OSL | IIIAAAAIII | OttoMH | J/F | AY BA AA
16 AUG | £1.27/TP | £1,518 (19.5k NOK) | 1200 | OSL-LON-JFK-PHX-HNL-PHX-JFK-LHR-OSL | IIAAAAII | OttoMH | J/F | BA AA
14AUG | £1.31/TP | £470 | 360 | OSL-HEL-AGP-HEL-OSL | I-I-I-I | ITA | Flythe96flag | SH J cabin + possible red-eye (!) | AY
04 SEP | £1.31/TP | £1,220 (1681 EUR) | 910 | DME-MAD-JFK-LAX-MIA-MAD-DME | all in I | iberia.com | henkybaby | J | BA AA IB | works till 6/16 so far
23AUG | £1.34/TP | £1148 | 860 | DUB-PHL-PHX-LAS-PHX-JFK-LHR,LCY-DUB | I/P/P/P/P/I/I | ticketed on aa.com | megaloman | AA & BA (UD on 747 JFK-LHR)
17AUG | £1.67/TP | £1408 |840 |BHX-JFK-PHX-LAS & back | I-A-A-A-A-I | aa.com |Swiss Tony | AA ski slope bed on TATL | AA
26JUL | £1.81/TP | £72.70 | 40 | MAD-FRA | Z | lan.com | Prospero | 787 flat bed | LA
23NOV | £1.89/TP | £377 | 200 | DUB-LHR-MAD-SVQ r/t | I-I-I-I-I-I | ITA | Lorcancoyle | IM0B IB DUB to SVQ | BA and IB flights (I2 for domestic under IB code), random dates in December available, A340 on some dates (helpfully pointed out by Temps that domestic Spain is only 20 TPs)
17 AUG | £1.89/TP | £1818 | 960 | OSL-LON-KUL//SIN-SYD/SYD-PER/PER-SYD-SIN/SIN-LHR-OSL | BugAlugs | J | BA QF | INCSALE ended 14thSep - (Applied GUF via TA (moves J to F on BA longhaul and scores 1260 TPS in total)
31 DEC | £1.91/TP | £1220 | 640 | AMS-LHR-MIA-SCL // EZE-JFK-LHR-BCN | J/I/I-I/I/J | AA.com | nufnuf77 (can also return to LHR for £20 less but 40TP less
13NOV | £2.56/TP | £410 | 160 | LHR-HEL | ? | BA.com | Lorcancoyle | wide open as flight+hotel, can reduce with TCB cash back | BA
1JAN | £1.85/TP | £444 | 240 | JER-LGW/LHR-HEL | J/I/I/J | ITA Matrix | flatlander | Available most weekends first half of 2016, fare IM0R
24NOV | £1.91/TP | £765.00 | 400 | BUD-DOH-SHJ | I/A/I/A | QR.com | Wozza2404 | A320 | QR
7DEC | £2.24/TP | £942 | 420 | MAD-MIA-SXM-CLT-JFK-LHR | I/I/I/A/I | ticketed on aa.com | megaloman | other routings possible earning more TPs could have lower the price with added LHR-CDG leg to £865 (£2.06/TP)
22JAN | £2.29/TP | £640 | 280 | FCO-CMB-FCO | I/I | book on SriLankan website | theultimateflyer

From North, Central and South America
31JUL | £0.39/TP | £484 | 1240 | HNL-LAX-BOS-MIA-BAQ-MIA-PHL-LAX-HNL | AAAIIAAA | ITA Matrix | Pawel Siewko | AA
16OCT | £0.55/TP | £298.50 | 540 | JFK-LAX-DEN-LAX-JFK | P-P-P-P | aa.com | Calum | AA A321t F seat between JFK & LAX (FARE GONE)
16JUL | £0.57/TP | £554 | 980 | LAX-LAS-PHX-PHL-CLT-TPA-MIA-PTY-MIA-PHL-PHX-LAS-LAX | PPPPPPIIPPPP | aa.com | Airprox | AA + US
27JUL | £0.80/TP | £15.94 | 20 | VVC-BOG-MDE | A | lan.com | JohnnyColombia | A is economy on LA | LA
08NOV | £0.84/TP | £772.50 | 920 | KOA-LAX-CLT-SJU-CLT-LAX-KOA | AAIIAA | aa.com | Lappe | Same day turnarounds available
30SEP | £0.87/TP | £808.00 | 920 | BOG-MIA-LAX-HNL-LAX-MIA-BOG | I-P-P-P-P-I | aa.com | JohnnyColombia | No comments
20SEP | £1.00/TP | £663.20 | 660 | LGA-BOS-LAX-PHX-LAX-BOS-LGA | P-P-P-P-P-P | americanairlines.co.uk | njf63 | TCON on 737 so not too comfortable but good availability next Mar/Apr
21AUG | £1.05 | £253 | 240 | BOS-PHL-PIT-PHL-BOS | PPPP | aa.com | Simon Schus | AA op by US
02NOV | £1.27/TP | £1250 | 980 | MCO-MIA-LAX-HNL | A | AA | Mr 1A
05AUG | £1.37/TP | £578 | 420 | LAS-PHL-LAS | A/P | aa.com | Lucanesque | First | AA op by US
28JUL | £1.43/TP | £400 | 280 | SCL-IPC-SCL | Z | lan.com - Chilean version | moonman85 | 787 flat bed | LAN
06NOV | £1.67/TP | £66.00 | 40 | JFK-YYZ | Z | tam.com.br | frb98mf | Fifth Freedom flight every Wed/Fri/Sun, 767 flat bed
13NOV | £1.06/TP | £705 | 660 | RIC-CLT-PHL-PHX-PHL-CLT-RIC | A | AA.com | wenzlydale | 2 trips this year - mixture of A320s and B757s not a lot of food offered but all the G&Ts you could wish for
07JAN|£1.24/TP | £668 | 540 | SEA-MIA-ATL-CLT-SEA | P/P/P/P | aa.com | EsherFlyer | 24h transcon bounce. All I could fit in...

From Middle East, Asia and Australasia
18AUG | £1.25/TP | £440.00 | 360 | BKK-KUL-ICN Return | Z | www.malaysiaairlines.com | Wozza2404 | A330 Angle Flat for long haul sectors | MH
12OCT | £1.68/TP | £1,546 | 920 | TLV-MAD-LHR-JFK-LAX-JFK-LHR-MAD-TLV | I/I/I/I/I/I/I | iberia.com | frb98mf | Business (bonus: A330/A340 on the TLV legs!) | IB
24NOV | £1.43/TP | £803 | 560 | CTS-HKG-DPS-HKG-CTS | I/I/I/I | cathaypacific.com | zeltergiset | One 24hr+ stopover in HKG allowed | CX
06JAN | £1.86/TP | £856 | 460 | HND-HKG-DPS-HKG-CTS | I/I/I/I | cathaypacific.com | Gastrocnemius | One 24hr+ stopover in HKG allowed | CX
11JAN | £1.26/TP | £707 | 560 | KTM-KUL-TPE-KUL-KTM | D/D/D/D | malaysiaairlines.com | zeltergiset | MH
11JAN | £1.68/TP | £940 | 560 | TPE-KUL-KTM-KUL-TPE | D/D/D/D | malaysiaairlines.com | zeltergiset | MH

From Africa
11AUG | £0.89/TP | £748 | 840 | ACC-LHR-MIA-LAX-MIA-LHR-ACC | I/I/I/I/I/I/I/I | iberia call centre | njf63 | CW / AA J | IB
15NOV | £2.00/TP | £1200 | 600 | CPT-DOH-JFK-DOH-CPT | I/I/I/I | QR Website | Calum | QR J on the B788/A350 & 46hrs of flying | QR

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Need a year-end TP run (ex-LON) to make / retain status?

Some tips for searching for the year-end TP run for newcomers, the below is indicative only, but hopefully provides a bit of guidance for relatively straightforward runs ex-LON. Prospero's guide to using ITA matrix in post 3 (here along with these ideas, might come in handy. Feel free to share results, problems or general questions in the thread as these may not always work and there might be better deals out there...

For overnight trips remember to check BA and Iberia for their flights and hotel option as well, can get hotel for almost no extra cost at times

Need 80 TPs or less
Club Europe return somewhere close by is best - DUB, AMS and JER usually cheapest. AMS and JER easier than DUB for an immediate turnaround. The BA.com low fare finder can be very useful.

If you need as few as 45 TPs you might consider booking economy flights and hoping for a proactive online upgrade offer - but they're not guaranteed to materialise (so not one if you have no more time left in your TP collection year)

Or a slightly more interesting fun run

Need 85-120 TPs
Iberia flights via MAD to regional Spanish airports will get you 120 TPs as the domestic Spanish flights are 20 TPs in business. Under £300 including hotel can be available. Check BIO, GRX, VLC, BCN, SVQ etc. Example here

Need 125-160 TPs
Take a look at the shorthaul plus routes earning 80 TPs each way in business listed in the first post (here) MLA, IST, HEL and RAK are usually available. If time sensitive take a look at BA flight and hotel option to HEL, where you can usually get the last BA flight out on a Saturday, airport hotel and first return Sunday for well under £500.

Alternative options include positioning to JER and flying JER-LGW-XXX (AMS usually works well and avoids switching airports)

Need more than 160 TPs
You'll most likely be heading north then - OSL or VLL via HEL will get you 240 TPs, as will JER-LGW/LHR-HEL e.g. LHR-HEL-OSL for £520
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Apr 1, 2015, 1:42 pm

#1711

SadKingBilly

Join Date: Sep 2014

Posts: 333

Quote:

Originally Posted by davy1974

looks good but how do i book it and what do i need to ask for? I want to travel in August and what will this get me TP wise?

As Lefly already pointed out, once you construct an itinerary you like on matrix, there are a few ways to book it. A lot of people here prefer to just phone BA and give them the exact flight information, booking classes and fare code they are aiming for. Alternatively, you can try booking it on aa.com, using "search by schedule" feature. Don't forget to tick the box which allows it to include all OW flights in the itinerary, not just AA.

August is a good time for traveling as most of it falls into one of BA/OW low-fare windows. Currently both babybus (CW service between LCY and JGK) and domestic flights in US in domestic First on two-class flights over 2000 miles bring 210 TP per segment. All this is expected to change after April 28th, but as long as you book before then you can travel in August and still get the "old" TPs. A simpler trip like

DUB-LCY-JFK-LAS/PHX/SEA-JFK-LCY-DUB

will give you (40+210+210)*2=920 TPs. If 1000 is all you need, it's probably does not make too much sense to continue to Hawaii, as you will hit the target if you just tack on another two segments in First (at 60 TPs each). So, something like:

DUB-LCY-JFK-LAS-LAX-LAS-JFK-LCY-DUB

You need to be a bit careful while booking, you don't want to book US domestic sectors as BA codeshare flight numbers, as those will book as business and will result in reduced TPs.

You can check TPs for any sector using the TP calculator:

https://www.britishairways.com/trave...club/_gf/en_gb

Note that you need to log in to your BAEC account at ba.com, otherwise the calculator does not work.

HTH.

Apr 1, 2015, 2:02 pm

#1712

longhaullarry

Join Date: Jan 2015

Posts: 5

Evening all,

So having done some calculations im short of Gold by 420 points. My run out date isnt untill Jan next year however with the change in rules by BA being enforced end of next month id like to get a TP run booked before the change.

Has any one got any great ideas or tips to help push into Gold for the first time - im free most weekends although for a good trip would be happy to take a fri or mo as leave from work.

Thanks in advance,

Apr 1, 2015, 3:42 pm

#1713

The _Banking_Scot

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Quote:

Originally Posted by longhaullarry

Hi longhaullarry,

Where are you based as this will help tailor our advice ie UK, EU, USA etc

420 probably means 1 longhaul destination with a creative routing ex UK or ex EU or 2 transcontinental flights in the US in F. ( over 2000 miles)

Regards

TBS

Apr 1, 2015, 5:38 pm

#1714

Foltan

Join Date: Dec 2014

Location: London

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Posts: 1,219

Quote:

Originally Posted by longhaullarry

My run out date isnt untill Jan next year however with the change in rules by BA being enforced end of next month id like to get a TP run booked before the change.

The changes only have a big impact if you're planning on UUA or aren't already a Gold. If you're just doing a simple J TP run then it may be better to wait for a sale?

Apr 2, 2015, 12:18 am

#1715

Lappe

Join Date: Jun 2013

Location: Helsinki, Finland

Programs: AMEX Plat / AY Plat, BA GGL-CCR / Bonvoy Titanium (LTP)

Posts: 474

Quote:

Originally Posted by Dark Blue

It's been sorted. BA assigned two different codes to DUB-LCY-JFK-PHX-HNL and PHX-JFK-LCY-DUB... I don't know why they have no HNL-PHX leg in their system, but US does have, so I hope it would not be a problem.

This is exactly what I am seeing on my itinerary - probably related to the internal workings of ticket issuing and should not cause concern since the operating (and marketing) carriers have the itinerary correct.

Apr 2, 2015, 12:47 am

#1716

davy1974

Join Date: Mar 2015

Programs: BA Gold and Virgin Gold, HH Diamond

Posts: 42

Quote:

Originally Posted by SadKingBilly

Thats sounds great SadKingBilly but I do not know which flight codes and classes to ask for - this is real teacher pupil stuff here. I want to make sure i get it right. Also what is the longest you can stay in anyone destination?

Thanks again

Apr 2, 2015, 1:47 am

#1717

DYKWIA

Ambassador: Emirates Airlines

Join Date: Sep 2004

Location: Manchester, UK

Posts: 18,618

Are any of these TP runs available more or less immediately - in the next month or so?

The client I was working for have unhelpfully decided to put the project back a month... so it's likely I'll be twiddling my thumbs for a while. I have a grand total of 80 TPs, and would like to get up to Silver so I can enjoy lounge access on my regular MAN-HEL flights.

Starting anywhere EU - closer to MAN the better

Apr 2, 2015, 2:39 am

#1718

SadKingBilly

Join Date: Sep 2014

Posts: 333

Quote:

Originally Posted by davy1974

The flight numbers, booking classes and fare codes are displayed on matrix. Try entering the following there:

From: dub :: ba lcy ba1,ba3 jfk aa,us las aa,us
To: lax :: aa,us las aa,us jfk ba2,ba4 lcy

The part after :: are advanced routing codes, which specify which intermediate points, carriers or flights to use for particular segments. Choose "see calendar of lowest fares" with date set to 1st of August, uncheck "Allow airport changes" and set cabin to "Business class or higher". Currently I see some dates on which this trip can be booked for EUR 1892, for example:

Here you can see flight numbers under every segment ("British Airways 1", "American Airlines Inc. 45", etc), the booking classes on the right ("Business (I)", "First (A)"), etc and if you scroll down, you will also see the fare codes for outbound and inbound legs ("ILR28AP" in both cases for this one) with a link to complete fare rules. That's the information you need to give to the agent on the phone to be able to book this successfully.

As for staying, the fares like that are usually pretty restrictive and do not allow stopovers at the intermediate points, so at most you will be able to spend 24 hours at any point other than the destination. Note that the itinerary already has a few overnight stays, for complex trips like that they are pretty much unavoidable. Matrix usually offers a quite a few options though, so you can choose the one you like the most, and the "time bars" display may be useful for that.

Apr 2, 2015, 9:09 am

#1719

nitbix

Join Date: Jun 2013

Location: UK

Programs: AA, BA, DL, UA, SAS

Posts: 170

A variant of what's been previously posted, but via PHX for slightly more (but 300 TP more, so less per TP).

Apr 2, 2015, 1:06 pm

#1720

oxongirl64k

Join Date: Jan 2014

Location: the clue is in the name

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Posts: 75

ex-EU (either NCE or BRU) to US - 1000 TP needed

Long time no ask....

I would love to ask for your kind assistance again with the planning for a trip - (and input/experience): I need a flight to the US to get 1000 TP that either starts on the evening of 4 June in BRU (18.00 roughly) or morning of 5 June in BRU (as early as poss).

OR

starts in NCE on Tue 9 June in the morning.

Any ideas? wouldn't mind staying one night in LAS

Thank you for your help!

Apr 2, 2015, 7:33 pm

#1721

RedDevil83

Join Date: Sep 2010

Programs: BA Gold

Posts: 255

OK, I have found the exact itinerary I want on ITA matrix but cannot get the BA or AA website to show it. (It's not really a cheap TP run, just a decent ex-EU fare that fits my exact travel needs).

Itinerary details
Itinerary

Dublin (DUB) to London (LHR) — Mon, Jun 29
British Airways 823
Dep: 7:20 pm
Arr: 8:30 pm
1h 10m
Airbus A320
Business (J)
Meal

London (LHR) to Miami (MIA) — Tue, Jun 30
British Airways 207
Dep: 10:45 am
Arr: 2:55 pm
9h 10m
Boeing 747
Business (I)
Meal

Miami (MIA) to Tampa (TPA) — Tue, Jun 30
American Airlines Inc. 251
Dep: 5:00 pm
Arr: 6:07 pm
1h 7m
Airbus A319
First (A)
In-seat Video Player

Tampa (TPA) to Miami (MIA) — Tue, Jul 28
American Airlines Inc. 2300
Dep: 4:30 pm
Arr: 5:33 pm
1h 3m
Boeing 737
First (A)

Miami (MIA) to London (LHR) — Tue, Jul 28
Overnight flight
British Airways 208
Dep: 8:40 pm
Arr: 10:15 am
8h 35m
Boeing 747
Business (I)
Meal
Wed, Jul 29

London (LCY) to Dublin (DUB) — Wed, Jul 29
British Airways 4464
Dep: 2:25 pm
Arr: 3:40 pm
1h 15m
Embraer RJ-170
Business (J)
Meal
OPERATED BY BA CITYFLYER LIMITED

Cost per passenger (including taxes & fees)
€1,629.80
Total cost for 1 passenger
€1,629.80

Now, this shows the AA sectors (MIA-TPA-MIA) as booking into A class which will be full TP's, am I correct assuming if I book thru BA with BA codeshare flight numbers I won't get the full TP's, and is there any way for BA to force the booking with AA flight numbers?

I know I could book thru AA probably and get full TP's but I wanna upgrade one of the transatlantic legs so this isn't an option.

As BA website won't show these flights an an option, what's my best bet, call them directly?

Apr 2, 2015, 7:39 pm

#1722

KARFA

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Quote:

Originally Posted by RedDevil83

Now, this shows the AA sectors (MIA-TPA-MIA) as booking into A class which will be full TP's, am I correct assuming if I book thru BA with BA codeshare flight numbers I won't get the full TP's

Correct, BA codeshares would only get 40 TPs for these flights, whereas booking under the AA flight number in A class gets 60 TPs. You won't get the AA flight number and A class to show on ba.com, it will default to the BA codeshare.

Quote:

and is there any way for BA to force the booking with AA flight numbers?

No way to force ba.com, but you can get AA flight numbers if you call.

Quote:

As BA website won't show these flights an an option, what's my best bet, call them directly?

Calling BA is your only bet on this one!

Apr 2, 2015, 7:40 pm

#1723

Calchas

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Quote:

Originally Posted by RedDevil83

Now, this shows the AA sectors (MIA-TPA-MIA) as booking into A class which will be full TP's, am I correct assuming if I book thru BA with BA codeshare flight numbers I won't get the full TP's, and is there any way for BA to force the booking with AA flight numbers?

The BA website does not support this.

Quote:

Originally Posted by RedDevil83

As BA website won't show these flights an an option, what's my best bet, call them directly?

Yes. This should be no problem. Ensure the correct booking codes are used.

Alternatively you might rely on the kindness of strangers ... our resident ticketing wizard might help you set up the PNR.

Apr 2, 2015, 7:44 pm

#1724

KARFA

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Calchas

... our resident ticketing wizard might help you set up the PNR.

Good point, I forgot about dutch_122. You would still need to call to pay RedDevil83, but dutch_122 can set up the booking in the BA system.

Apr 2, 2015, 7:48 pm

#1725

Calchas

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Quote:

Originally Posted by KARFA

Good point, I forgot about dutch_122. You would still need to call to pay RedDevil83, but dutch_122 can set up the booking in the BA system.

If you ask him very nicely