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BA FLEET: NEW AIRCRAFT ARRIVALS AND RETIREMENTS WIKI
BA are in the mid-stages of a large fleet renewal programme. The new aircraft enabled BA to retire the 767 and 737 Classic fleets with retirement of the 747 fleet and selected 777/A319 aircraft currently in progress.
This Wiki has been divided into:
BA are in the mid-stages of a large fleet renewal programme. The new aircraft enabled BA to retire the 767 and 737 Classic fleets with retirement of the 747 fleet and selected 777/A319 aircraft currently in progress.
This Wiki has been divided into:
- Projected Fleet
- New Arrivals
- Retrofits
- Retirements
- Historical Fleet
(Click on the aircraft type, where there is a link, to go to the relevant details in this wikipost.)
Projected Fleet
This renewal programme, which is being complemented with a cabin refresh for some of the older aircraft, is expected to see the following fleet numbers at year end 2022.
Heathrow Fleet and Gatwick Fleet
Shorthaul
• A319: 9 (38 currently in fleet)
• A320ceo: 67 (67 currently in fleet)
• A320neo: 22 (12 currently in fleet)
• A321ceo: 14 (14 currently in fleet)
• A321neo: 13 (9 currently in fleet)
Midhaul
• A321: 4 (4 currently in fleet)
Longhaul
• A350-1000: 18 (6 currently in fleet)
• A380: 12 (12 currently in fleet)
• B747-400: 12 (30 currently in fleet)
• B777-200ER: 43 (43 currently in fleet)
• B777-300ER: 16 (12 currently in fleet)
• B777-9: 8 (0 currently in fleet)
• B787-8: 12 (12 currently in fleet)
• B787-9: 18 (18 currently in fleet)
• B787-10: 9 (2 currently in fleet)
London City Fleet
Shorthaul
• E170 / E190: 28 (24 currently in fleet)
Longhaul
• A318: 1 (1 currently in fleet)
New Arrivals
Airbus A320ceo: Ten A320ceos were delivered between June 2013 and October 2014, based at LHR. Ten second hand A320ceos were delivered to LGW between December 2014 and August 2016. Details are archived here.
Airbus A320neo: 35 A320neo family aircraft (25 A320s and 10 A321s) were ordered to replace 21 of the older A319 and A320ceos and add extra capacity. Deliveries started in 2018. In May 2019 three A320neos were converted to A321neo bringing the split to 22 A320s and 13 A321s.
G-TTNA - Delivered on 10 Apr 2018
G-TTNB - Delivered on 25 Apr 2018
G-TTNC - Delivered on 07 Jun 2018
G-TTND - Delivered on 26 Jul 2018
G-TTNE - Delivered on 21 Sep 2018
G-TTNF - Delivered on 27 Oct 2018
G-TTNG - Delivered on 29 Nov 2018
G-TTNH - Delivered on 17 Jan 2019
G-TTNI - Delivered on 20 Feb 2019
G-TTNJ - Delivered on 28 Feb 2019
G-TTNK - Delivered on 27 Feb 2020
G-TTNL - Delivered on 09 Mar 2020
G-TTNM - Due in May 2020?
G-TTNN - Due in Jul 2020
G-TTNO - Due in Sep 2020
G-TTNP - Due in 2020
G-TTNR -
G-TTNS -
G-TTNT -
G-TTNU -
G-TTNV -
G-TTNW -
Airbus A321neo:
G-NEOR - Delivered on 23 Nov 2018
G-NEOS - Delivered on 29 Jan 2019
G-NEOT - Delivered on 01 Mar 2019
G-NEOP - Delivered on 27 Mar 2019
G-NEOU - Delivered on 10 May 2019
G-NEOV - Delivered on 30 Aug 2019
G-NEOW - Delivered on 25 Oct 2019
G-NEOX - Delivered on 23 Dec 2019
G-NEOZ - Delivered on 17 Mar 2020
G-NEOY - Due in May 2020?
G-TNEA -
G-TNEB -
G-TNEC -
Airbus A350: BA ordered 18 A350-1000s for delivery between 2019 and 2021. They will all be based at LHR are being delivered as 3-class in a 56J/56W/219Y configuration. Deliveries started in July 2019.
G-XWBA - Delivered on 27 Jul 2019
G-XWBB - Delivered on 19 Sep 2019
G-XWBC - Delivered on 26 Nov 2019
G-XWBD - Delivered on 23 Dec 2019
G-XWBE - Delivered on 12 Feb 2020
G-XWBF - Delivered on 20 May 2020
G-XWBG - Due in Jun 2020
G-XWBH - Due in Jul 2020
G-XWBI - Due in Oct 2020
G-XWBJ - Due in Jan 2021
G-XWBK - Due in Feb 2021
G-XWBL -
G-XWBM -
G-XWBN -
G-XWBO -
G-XWBP -
G-XWBR -
G-XWBS -
Airbus A380: Twelve A380s were delivered between July 2013 and June 2016 and are based at LHR. Details are archived here.
Boeing 777-300ER: Six 777-300ERs were delivered between September 2013 and August 2014 and are based at LHR. Details are archived here. A further three were ordered in November 2018, and a fourth in December 2018. These final four are due to be delivered from Q3 2020.
G-STBM - Due in Jul 2020?
G-STBN - Due in Aug 2020?
G-STBO - Due in 2020
G-STBP - Due in 2020
Boeing 777-9: In February 2019 BA announced an order for 18 Boeing 777-9 aircraft plus 24 options which will be powered by General Electric GE9X engines. Each aircraft will be fitted with 325 seats in a 4-class, 8F/65J/46W/206Y configuration. The 777-9s on order will be used to replace 14 Boeing 747-400 and four Boeing 777-200ER between 2022 and 2025.
Boeing 787-8: Twelve 787-8s were delivered between June 2013 and November 2018 and are based at LHR. Details are archived here.
Boeing 787-9: Eighteen 787-9s were delivered between September 2015 and June 2018 and are based at LHR. Details are archived here.
Boeing 787-10: BA has 12 787-10s on order to be delivered between 2020 and 2023: Each aircraft will be fitted with 256 seats in a 4 class 8F/48J/35W/165Y configuration.
G-ZBLA - Due 24th May 2020
G-ZBLB - Due in Jun 2020
G-ZBLC - Due in Aug 2020
G-ZBLD - Due in 2020
G-ZBLE - Due in 2020
G-ZBLF - Due in 2020
G-ZBLG - Due in 2021
G-ZBLH - Due in 2021
G-ZBLI - Due in 2022
G-ZBLJ - Due in 2023
G-ZBLK - Due in 2023
G-ZBLL - Due in 2023
Embraer 190: Three more new Embraer 190s were delivered in May 2014 and September 2014. Details are archived here. Seven second hand aircraft have since been sourced. Two more are due in 2020.
G-LCYV - Delivered on 19 Dec 2015
G-LCYW - Delivered on 25 May 2016
G-LCYX - Delivered on 10 Jul 2016
G-LCYY - Delivered on 22 Dec 2017
G-LCYZ - Delivered on 17 May 2018
G-LCAA - Delivered on 23 May 2019
G-LCAB - Delivered on 21 July 2019
G-LCAC - Due into service June 2020 (currently at WAW)
G-LCAD - Due in June / July 2020? (currently at CAN)
G-LCAE
G-LCAF
G-LCAG
G-LCAH
Retrofits
A320ceo:
The A320ceos currently based at LHR are being reconfigured from CY168 to CY180. These feature Pinnacle seats throughout and still have tables in CE, (unlike the A320neos).
There are currently 55 completed.
Completed (CY180):
G-EUUA/D/E/F/G/H/I/J/K/L/M/N/O/P/R/S/T/U/V/W/X/Y/Z
G-EUYA/B/C/D/E/F/G/H/I/J/K/L/M/N/O/P/R/S/T/U/V/W/X/Y
G-MEDK
G-MIDO/S/T/X/Y
G-TTOB/E
The following aircraft are currently undergoing cabin refit at Madrid:
G-EUUB/C
A321ceo (Completed):
All 14 shorthaul frames have now been reconfigured from a CY205 to a CY218. These feature Pinnacle seats throughout and still have tables in CE (unlike the A321neos). The four midhaul frames remain unchanged in a 23J/131Y layout.
Boeing 777-200ER:
For full details on the complete refit plan of the 777s, see the following detailed thread: https://www.flyertalk.com/forum/brit...8-onwards.html
LGW Cabin retrofit of 777-200ERs with 10-across economy seating and upgraded Panasonic IFE. These do notfeature the new Club World seat. This commenced in January 2018.
There are currently 14 completed.
Completed (32J/52W/252Y): G-VIIO/P/R/T/U/X
Completed (32J/48W/252Y): G-YMMB/C/D/E/F
Completed (14F/48J/40W/136Y): G-VIIV/W/Y
The following aircraft are currently undergoing cabin refit at
Cardiff:
None
LHR Cabin retrofit of 777-200ERs with 10-across economy seating and upgraded Panasonic IFE. These feature the new Club World seat. This commenced in August 2019.
There are currently 6 completed.
Completed (8F/49J/40W/138Y): G-VIIB/K/L/M/N, G-RAES
The following aircraft are currently undergoing cabin refit at Cardiff
G-VIIF - Arrived at CWL on 14 April
G-VIIA - Arrived at CWL on 25 April
Boeing 777-300ER:
Cabin retrofit to commence in October 2020 in an 8F/76J/40W/130Y configuration with the new Club World seat.
Retirement
With all the new arrivals there are also some much loved/hated (*delete as applicable) older aircraft heading for scrapping. Until 2015 most of these ended up in Victorville (VCV) in California for storage and ultimately part out for scrap. Since then most ex-BA planes have been sent to St Athan (DGX) in Wales for scrapping. Recent 747 retirements have been to Kemble (GBA) in England for scrapping.
Airbus A319:
G-DBCI - Retired to MAD on 07 Mar 2018
G-EUPV - Retired to DGX on 01 Nov 2018
G-EUOH - Retired to DGX on 05 Sep 2019
G-EUPX - Retired to DGX on 07 Sep 2019
G-EUOI - Retired to DGX on 04 Nov 2019
G-EUPE - Retired to DGX on 11 Mar 2020
G-EUOC - Retired to DGX on 11 Mar 2020
G-EUOD - Retired to DGX on 11 Mar 2020
G-EUOB - Retired to DGX on 16 Mar 2020
The next to be retired (subject to change) are:
G-EUPA - Due to be withdrawn in Sep 2020
G-EUPC - Due to be withdrawn in Nov 2020
G-EUPB - Due to be withdrawn in Oct 2021
G-EUPF - Due to be withdrawn in Nov 2021
G-EUPH - Due to be withdrawn in Nov 2021
G-EUPJ - Due to be withdrawn in Nov 2021
G-EUPK - Due to be withdrawn in Aug 2022
G-EUOE - Due to be withdrawn in Oct 2022
G-EUOF - Due to be withdrawn in Oct 2022
Airbus A320:
G-TTOB - Due to be withdrawn in Feb 2022
Boeing 747-400: As of 27 April 2020, 29 747-400s have been retired from the original fleet of 57, leaving 30 aircraft in service. Of those remaining, 17 are "super high-J" aircraft (14F / 86J / 30W / 145Y). (Cabin refresh dates here). The remaining 11 aircraft are "mid-J" aircraft. (14F / 52J / 36W / 235Y). (Cabin refresh dates here). All remaining aircraft have been refurbished.
The current plan is for all aircraft to be retired by February 2024. According to the Capital Markets Day presentation in November 2019, BA plan to have the following amount of 747s in the fleet at year end:
- 2020: 25 aircraft
- 2021: 20 aircraft
- 2022: 12 aircraft
- 2023: 3 aircraft
Since then the following have been retired:
G-BNLN - Retired to DGX on 24 Jun 2019
G-CIVG - Retired to DGX on 25 Nov 2019
G-CIVM - Retired to DGX on 16 Mar 2020
G-CIVL - Retired to GBA 14 Apr 2020
G-CIVJ - Retired to GBA 15 Apr 2020
G-CIVN - Retired to GBA on 16 Apr 2020
For a further analysis of the fleet and retirement plans: see Globaliser's tracker.
The last known planned dates of the next retirements were as follows (but should all be regarded as subject to change). All the retirements will be of the "mid-J" configuration unless stated otherwise.
G-CIVI - Due to be retired in Apr 2020 [super high-J]
G-CIVD - Due to be retired in May 2020
G-CIVH - Due to be retired in Jun 2020 [super high-J]
G-CIVK - Due to be retired in Jan 2021
G-CIVF - Due to be retired in Jun 2021 [super high-J]
G-CIVB - Due to be retired in 2022
G-CIVC - Due to be retired in Nov 2022
G-CIVE - Due to be retired in Nov 2022
G-BYGC - Due to be retired in 2023 [super high-J]
G-BNLY - Due to be retired in 2023
Boeing 777-200:
G-ZZZC - Retired to DGX on 13 Jan 2020
G-ZZZA - Due to be retired in Sep 2020 [potential early retirement - stored at LHR 19 Mar 2020]
G-ZZZB - Due to be retired in Oct 2020 [potential early retirement - stored at LHR 20 Mar 2020]
Embraer 170:
G-LCYE - Retired to WAW on 07 May 2020
Historical Fleet
Boeing 737: The last remaining 737 was retired in Oct 2015. Details are archived here.
Boeing 767: The last remaining 767 was retired in Nov 2018. Details are archived here.
BA Fleet : New aircraft arrivals and retirements master tracker
Jan 3, 2020, 9:45 pm
#3766
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According to the BA source G-ZZZC | The BA Source
G-ZZZC was delivered to BA in November 95, so 24 years service, not that young.
G-ZZZC was delivered to BA in November 95, so 24 years service, not that young.
Jan 3, 2020, 11:52 pm
#3767
Join Date: Jun 2016
Location: London
Programs: BAEC Gold
Posts: 2,222
According to the BA source G-ZZZC | The BA Source
G-ZZZC was delivered to BA in November 95, so 24 years service, not that young.
G-ZZZC was delivered to BA in November 95, so 24 years service, not that young.
Jan 4, 2020, 12:23 am
#3768
Join Date: Jul 2018
Location: London, UK
Programs: BAEC Gold
Posts: 1,020
Jan 4, 2020, 3:33 pm
#3771
Join Date: Oct 2018
Location: London, UK
Programs: BAEC
Posts: 3,440
I was thinking...
Why don’t BA take delivery of 4 A321neos in a Mid-Haul configuration and then convert the remaining G-MED frames to Short-Haul like their sisters?
This would provide some good fuel savings on these longer routes and it would give them the opportunity to refresh the Mid-Haul product, it is very tatty and I still see pictures of falling apart tray tables and seats.
Why don’t BA take delivery of 4 A321neos in a Mid-Haul configuration and then convert the remaining G-MED frames to Short-Haul like their sisters?
This would provide some good fuel savings on these longer routes and it would give them the opportunity to refresh the Mid-Haul product, it is very tatty and I still see pictures of falling apart tray tables and seats.
Jan 5, 2020, 3:02 am
#3772
Join Date: Sep 2018
Programs: BA, EI, IB, Hilton Honors
Posts: 550
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Jan 5, 2020, 3:22 am
#3773
Join Date: Oct 2012
Location: Helvetia
Programs: AS; BA Silver; UA; HH Gold; Sprüngli Connaisseur
Posts: 2,912
According to the BA source G-ZZZC | The BA Source
G-ZZZC was delivered to BA in November 95, so 24 years service, not that young.
G-ZZZC was delivered to BA in November 95, so 24 years service, not that young.
Jan 5, 2020, 10:14 pm
#3774
Join Date: Oct 2015
Posts: 162
I was thinking...
Why don’t BA take delivery of 4 A321neos in a Mid-Haul configuration and then convert the remaining G-MED frames to Short-Haul like their sisters?
This would provide some good fuel savings on these longer routes and it would give them the opportunity to refresh the Mid-Haul product, it is very tatty and I still see pictures of falling apart tray tables and seats.
Why don’t BA take delivery of 4 A321neos in a Mid-Haul configuration and then convert the remaining G-MED frames to Short-Haul like their sisters?
This would provide some good fuel savings on these longer routes and it would give them the opportunity to refresh the Mid-Haul product, it is very tatty and I still see pictures of falling apart tray tables and seats.
In November I flew to Amman on a mid haul configured A321 in Club and have to say that I was underwhelmed. My wife who has a back issue found the Club seats most uncomfortable.
Space utilisation seemed to me to be poor so surely there is a better way of offering mid haul Club seating than that which is currently on offer.
Jan 5, 2020, 11:42 pm
#3775
Join Date: May 2014
Posts: 7,237
I think that this is an excellent suggestion and I am surprised that no one has thought of this option before.
In November I flew to Amman on a mid haul configured A321 in Club and have to say that I was underwhelmed. My wife who has a back issue found the Club seats most uncomfortable.
Space utilisation seemed to me to be poor so surely there is a better way of offering mid haul Club seating than that which is currently on offer.
In November I flew to Amman on a mid haul configured A321 in Club and have to say that I was underwhelmed. My wife who has a back issue found the Club seats most uncomfortable.
Space utilisation seemed to me to be poor so surely there is a better way of offering mid haul Club seating than that which is currently on offer.
Having said that, on the topic of why BA hasn't changed those mid-hauls yet... well, IAG hasn't ordered the A321neo in the -LR or -XLR version for BA (though they could always divert some of the options) and, at BA, the 321 neos are being used as the successor of the 763, though not on a like-for-like scenario. I suppose that the topic of whether to introduce a new narrowbody mid-hauler will eventually arrive in a few year's time; however parts of me think they might just get rid of them and be done with it. I've got nothing to back me up on this but my hunch, and I've always found that those A321s were, for BA, a bit of an acquired taste and too did the routes they plied. Of the former BMI routes, the overwhelming majority (ALA, GYD, TBS, EVN and I guess there were others) have gone. It'd be a shame, because I would definitely see a fit for an A321neoXLR at BA. There might not be the market or the interest for its routes, though.
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Jan 6, 2020, 12:03 am
#3776
Join Date: Jun 2016
Location: London
Programs: BAEC Gold
Posts: 2,222
Having said that, on the topic of why BA hasn't changed those mid-hauls yet... well, IAG hasn't ordered the A321neo in the -LR or -XLR version for BA (though they could always divert some of the options) and, at BA, the 321 neos are being used as the successor of the 763, though not on a like-for-like scenario. I suppose that the topic of whether to introduce a new narrowbody mid-hauler will eventually arrive in a few year's time; however parts of me think they might just get rid of them and be done with it. I've got nothing to back me up on this but my hunch, and I've always found that those A321s were, for BA, a bit of an acquired taste and too did the routes they plied. Of the former BMI routes, the overwhelming majority (ALA, GYD, TBS, EVN and I guess there were others) have gone. It'd be a shame, because I would definitely see a fit for an A321neoXLR at BA. There might not be the market or the interest for its routes, though.
Jan 6, 2020, 12:08 am
#3777
Join Date: May 2014
Posts: 7,237
Wasn’t there a plan for BEY and AMM to be operated by 787-8s? If there was, obviously the Trent issues have put paid to it, at least in the short term. I can only see BA expanding its mid haul offering (with A321LRs, for example) if and when the 3rd runway is built. That would likely open up a number of secondary TATL routes for them.
As for more routes, my hope would be for some of those Caucasus/Central Asian routes to return but let's face it: there just isn't the market or the interest. I'm sure they could fill up an A321 of people dying to get to Louisville but I doubt that more than 30 people will be flying to Almaty or Tbilisi (much like it was back in the day).
Jan 6, 2020, 4:05 am
#3778
Join Date: Oct 2018
Location: London, UK
Programs: BAEC
Posts: 3,440
If you check all the other mid-haul A321 products out there (mostly A321 neos), the overwhelming majority have the same Thomson seats that BA has (with more or less customisations). From top of my head Aer Lingus, TAP, Air Astana, JetBlue and I believe SAS is going to fit the same seats. As far as my memory goes, the only other seat that is currently available for fit-out on Airbus narrowbody aircrafts and that is in use is the Collins (former B/E Aerospace) Diamond mounted on some of Qatar Airways' A320s and on AA's Transcon birds, though I'd say that it's a bit less good for passengers as you have a 50% of having to climb over someone, whereas on the Thompson seat that is less likely to happen as it's in a 1-1/2-2 config.
Having said that, on the topic of why BA hasn't changed those mid-hauls yet... well, IAG hasn't ordered the A321neo in the -LR or -XLR version for BA (though they could always divert some of the options) and, at BA, the 321 neos are being used as the successor of the 763, though not on a like-for-like scenario. I suppose that the topic of whether to introduce a new narrowbody mid-hauler will eventually arrive in a few year's time; however parts of me think they might just get rid of them and be done with it. I've got nothing to back me up on this but my hunch, and I've always found that those A321s were, for BA, a bit of an acquired taste and too did the routes they plied. Of the former BMI routes, the overwhelming majority (ALA, GYD, TBS, EVN and I guess there were others) have gone. It'd be a shame, because I would definitely see a fit for an A321neoXLR at BA. There might not be the market or the interest for its routes, though.
Having said that, on the topic of why BA hasn't changed those mid-hauls yet... well, IAG hasn't ordered the A321neo in the -LR or -XLR version for BA (though they could always divert some of the options) and, at BA, the 321 neos are being used as the successor of the 763, though not on a like-for-like scenario. I suppose that the topic of whether to introduce a new narrowbody mid-hauler will eventually arrive in a few year's time; however parts of me think they might just get rid of them and be done with it. I've got nothing to back me up on this but my hunch, and I've always found that those A321s were, for BA, a bit of an acquired taste and too did the routes they plied. Of the former BMI routes, the overwhelming majority (ALA, GYD, TBS, EVN and I guess there were others) have gone. It'd be a shame, because I would definitely see a fit for an A321neoXLR at BA. There might not be the market or the interest for its routes, though.
However, my idea wouldn’t actually need any new orders, simply a reshuffle of the 321 and 321neos they already have/have coming. Even if the Mid-Haul service did end in a few years then these Neos could be easily converted to Short-Haul. It’ll just mean more fuel savings and a better product in the next few years.
Jan 6, 2020, 3:01 pm
#3779
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Below the last windows and top of the fin. Look at dem clean wheel hubs!
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