Icelandic Volcano erupts again [general discussion]
May 23, 2011, 2:52 pm
#76
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If you wish to monitor the impact on airspace the VAAC charts are located here.
It is then down to the National Airworthiness authorities to interpret this data and close airspace via NOTAMS as they see fit. So despite the efforts since last year there will be a lot of interpretation and inconsistent application of whether its "safe to fly".
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Aero_safety
It is then down to the National Airworthiness authorities to interpret this data and close airspace via NOTAMS as they see fit. So despite the efforts since last year there will be a lot of interpretation and inconsistent application of whether its "safe to fly".
regards
Aero_safety
. Advice from CAA/ EASA / Eurocontrol is that the airspace will not be closed. The airlines themselves must perform a safety risk assessment and have it accepted by their national airworthiness authority. This means this time the decison to fly is with the airline not ATC. To date no airline has applied to the UK CAA to operate in High density ash which is most of Scotland tomorrow 
Also the current bad weather up here means that the forecast is inaccurate so they know there will be disruption but not when or where to any real degree of confidence.
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Aero_Safety
May 23, 2011, 3:12 pm
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I got it wrong . Advice from CAA/ EASA / Eurocontrol is that the airspace will not be closed. The airlines themselves must perform a safety risk assessment and have it accepted by their national airworthiness authority. This means this time the decison to fly is with the airline not ATC. To date no airline has applied to the UK CAA to operate in High density ash which is most of Scotland tomorrow
Also the current bad weather up here means that the forecast is inaccurate so they know there will be disruption but not when or where to any real degree of confidence.
regards
Aero_Safety
. Advice from CAA/ EASA / Eurocontrol is that the airspace will not be closed. The airlines themselves must perform a safety risk assessment and have it accepted by their national airworthiness authority. This means this time the decison to fly is with the airline not ATC. To date no airline has applied to the UK CAA to operate in High density ash which is most of Scotland tomorrow Also the current bad weather up here means that the forecast is inaccurate so they know there will be disruption but not when or where to any real degree of confidence.
regards
Aero_Safety
Classic example of slopey shoulders from the regulators then...
May 23, 2011, 5:36 pm
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I've just posted my woes on the new sticky at the top.
Not sure if I should have posted it here and kept the sticky for experiences (and not just doom-mongering)
Mods, please feel free to move it as neccessary.
Good luck all - here we go again!
(I want to get home for the weekend so I can take the wife out for our wedding anniversary - if I don't make it back, it'll probably be my last anniversary anyway! (She told me not to come)).
Not sure if I should have posted it here and kept the sticky for experiences (and not just doom-mongering)
Mods, please feel free to move it as neccessary.
Good luck all - here we go again!
(I want to get home for the weekend so I can take the wife out for our wedding anniversary - if I don't make it back, it'll probably be my last anniversary anyway! (She told me not to come)).
May 23, 2011, 6:26 pm
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Does anyone know how far south the cloud has to go to have an effect on TATL flights? Would airlines fly south towards Spain, then cross the Atlantic there...? How far can ETOPS planes go?
Reason why I ask is because I'm doing BA001 in 8 days and wonder if it will be effected (due to the SNN stop) as apposed to the directs from LHR....
Reason why I ask is because I'm doing BA001 in 8 days and wonder if it will be effected (due to the SNN stop) as apposed to the directs from LHR....
May 23, 2011, 8:03 pm
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Does anyone know how far south the cloud has to go to have an effect on TATL flights? Would airlines fly south towards Spain, then cross the Atlantic there...? How far can ETOPS planes go?
Reason why I ask is because I'm doing BA001 in 8 days and wonder if it will be effected (due to the SNN stop) as apposed to the directs from LHR....
Reason why I ask is because I'm doing BA001 in 8 days and wonder if it will be effected (due to the SNN stop) as apposed to the directs from LHR....
At least in JFK it was easy to get an alternate flight. From LCY, less so.
May 24, 2011, 1:36 am
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Interesting that this is being left to AOCs to determine -seems sensible, but also begs the question as to what the point of having a regulator actually is.
I just hope that this is gone by the 1st July when I'm on annual leave. Don't mind the business travel being disrupted (oh dear, I might not be able to go to Hyderabad on Friday...shame...)
I just hope that this is gone by the 1st July when I'm on annual leave. Don't mind the business travel being disrupted (oh dear, I might not be able to go to Hyderabad on Friday...shame...)
May 24, 2011, 7:05 am
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May 24, 2011, 7:10 am
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That's nothing to do with the weather though, they've just seen the latest episode of The Scheme.
May 24, 2011, 7:15 am
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