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The latest version (2010) of the First cabin (termed "Prime" internally by British Airways, or "New First") is available on all 4-class 777s and all 747s.

An newer evolution (2013) of the First seat (Prime+) is found on all A380s, and a newer version still (2015) is available on all 787-9s.

The older version of the First cabin (termed "Classic" internally by British Airways, or "Old First") has now been withdrawn.

747 information updated to 31 March 2016. Last change: withdrawal of G-BNLF, the last OF aircraft

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Oct 18, 2011, 5:05 am

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Globaliser

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This may be a start: British Airways W11 Planned Boeing 777-300ER Operation as of 12OCT11

Oct 18, 2011, 2:29 pm

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Brian46

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LHR - Shanghai or Beijing

Hi,
Can you please tell me which route from LHR has the new first suites
Think its 777 used for Shanghai
Think its 747 used for Beijing
which route would be best for new First also which airport is the best.
Thanks

Oct 18, 2011, 2:51 pm

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Originally Posted by TravellerFrequently

Has anyone seen anything from BA explaining why these mid J 747s are not going to have NF fitted?

This is really disappointing, IMHO.

bump.

Anyone see anything official from BA?

I do think that ba.com should be updated accordingly, to manage expectations.

Oct 18, 2011, 4:37 pm

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Brian46

Shanghai is guaranteed NF. Beijing is not, though from memory it tends to use more Hi-J aircraft so chances of getting it should continue to increase.

But if everything else is equal and the guarantee of NF is enough to sway you, go for Shanghai.

Oct 19, 2011, 12:05 am

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Brian46

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Thank you Mark,
Never flown either route Shanghai or Beijing, hope to visit Terracotta Warriors, while there, from that point does it make any difference which airport, would like to try new first travelled LHR to Miami that was not NF, a really old plan .
Looking to tavel MAy next year, will the duststorms be over , is it a good time to visit the sites before the real busy period.
Sorry for all the questions, any advice much appreiacted.

Oct 19, 2011, 2:30 am

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Globaliser

This may be a start: British Airways W11 Planned Boeing 777-300ER Operation as of 12OCT11

Thanks, looking good for the Mumbai sector!

Oct 21, 2011, 2:36 am

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We're flying to JFK tomorrow on BA113. Previously when I've checked our seats on MMB the seating chart showed a wardrobe between 1A and 1K. This has now disappeared from the seating chart for our outbound flight (it is till there on the chart for our return flight). Does this indicate whether our flight will have New First or Old First?

I've checked the statistics for NF on ftdashboard and it's showing 93% New First on our route to JFK, so I'm hoping that we'll get the refreshed cabin.

Oct 21, 2011, 2:54 am

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You'll almost certainly get NF to JFK, but in my experience the 'disappearing wardrobe' means nothing.

Oct 21, 2011, 3:01 am

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Horris

... in my experience the 'disappearing wardrobe' means nothing.

Thanks, that's a relief. It will only be our second First flight and a rare treat forced on us by lack of availability in Club, so I'd like to get NF if we're burning through slightly more of our miles collection than I originally wanted to spend!

Oct 21, 2011, 9:07 am

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NF from LGW?

Sorry if this has been answered elsewhere. Didn't see it on page one, and apologies for not reading remaining 149 pages completely!

Is NF being fitted to 777s in LGW fleet (if indeed it is a different fleet)?

Flying to the Caribbean in January and wondering whether to get excited...

Thanks in advance for answers (good or bad!).

bmi G.

Oct 22, 2011, 7:39 am

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I wouldn't get too excited yet!!! The only real chance out of LGW is when you get an LHR plane on a maintenance swap, stranger things have happened though!

Having just done DEL and back this week in Old First, the best bonus is the ipads so you don't have to put up with the dreadful 8 channel 3" TVs!

Oct 23, 2011, 12:11 pm

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Hello - I will be travelling in first class BA 268 March 09, 2012 LAX-LHR and returning on BA 283 LHR-LAX on March 21,2012 will these flights have NF ??

Oct 23, 2011, 12:29 pm

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Originally Posted by BAflyguy

The 777 operating on the route is a codeshare flight with AA and will be operated by one of there 777's

BA will operate 2 x 747's from LAX to LHR this winter down from 3 x 747 that have operated during the S11 schedule. The route operated 2 x Daily for most of the W10/11 season. This Winter BA have decided to suspend the BA279/BA278 rotation for the entire Winter Season. The BA283/BA282 and BA269/BA268 will see changes to there departure times from both LHR and LAX compared to W10.

BA will operate a Daily Hi-J 747 on the BA269/BA268 service. On the BA283/BA282 a Hi-J service will operate 4 x weekly (Days 3, 4, 5 & 6) and a Mid-J 3 x weekly (Days 1, 2 & 7)

Here's some information on LAX/LHR flights. You can't tell for sure until just before your flight but it looks like you have a great chance on 268!

Oct 23, 2011, 12:49 pm

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Quote:

Originally Posted by tomas.t

Hello - I will be travelling in first class BA 268 March 09, 2012 LAX-LHR and returning on BA 283 LHR-LAX on March 21,2012 will these flights have NF ??

To be honest nobody knows and with it still 5 months to go, it really is a impossible question to give an answer too.

LAX has been getting NF planes but with it been mostly a low J route, you have less chance than a high J route. I think more high J 747's have NF than low J's.

We would love to say yes you will have NF, but we can't.

Edit - If im reading BAflyguy's post above correctly. It sound like more high J's are going to be used on the LAX route and a high J 747 is going to operate on the 268 and on the 283 for your return on 21/3/12. So you should have a good chance of NF but remember at the minute nothing is guaranteed .

Last edited by lancefan; Oct 23, 2011 at 1:04 pm

Oct 24, 2011, 8:40 am

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Has it been confirmed that G-CIVL is still OF, or is it a case of the information is just not known yet?