Strike ballot called: here we go [General discussion of BA industrial relations]
Oct 26, 2009, 10:25 am
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Oct 26, 2009, 10:25 am
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Pretty much yes.
Whilst I'd love for everyone to be hunky dory and makes lots of money, when it comes down to it, for me this strike is about whether or not my wife will be able to get home at Xmas to see her family she will not have seen for 14 months.
Whilst I'd love for everyone to be hunky dory and makes lots of money, when it comes down to it, for me this strike is about whether or not my wife will be able to get home at Xmas to see her family she will not have seen for 14 months.
Oct 26, 2009, 10:30 am
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But you and I will have to agree to differ as I do not care for the "I'm alright Jack" philosophy.
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Oct 26, 2009, 10:31 am
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If it affects no one other than the people taking strike action it would be completely pointless.
Oct 26, 2009, 10:41 am
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Isn't it the union members trying to ensure "I'm alright Jack" ? I am not arguing either way here, just pointing out that ultimately everyone wants what is best for themselves.
Oct 26, 2009, 10:44 am
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If the CC believe they need to strike, I will not hold it against them personally, I do not pretend to know nearly enough to have an opinion on the justification for such actions, I just hope it wont affect flights on the 22nd of December, many others will be hoping it doesn't affect them, its only natural.
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Oct 26, 2009, 10:45 am
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If I can see that something is better for people collectively than myself (and I've done this at work) then I'm usually willing to take the hit (as it were) and do what's best for the majority. Not always as it doesn't do to let people think you're a soft touch !
The point I'm making, to go back on topic, is that berating people for looking out for themselves because it affects you adversely (ie you are looking out for yourself) is both illogical and selfish.
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Oct 26, 2009, 10:49 am
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So what we have is two sides (pax and CC) both looking out for themselves because it affects them adversely. Can we conclude that they are both illogical and selfish?
Oct 26, 2009, 10:50 am
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I said berating someone for doing precisely what YOU are doing is illogical and selfish.
Oct 26, 2009, 10:54 am
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Speak for yourself.
If I can see that something is better for people collectively than myself (and I've done this at work) then I'm usually willing to take the hit (as it were) and do what's best for the majority. Not always as it doesn't do to let people think you're a soft touch !
The point I'm making, to go back on topic, is that berating people for looking out for themselves because it affects you adversely (ie you are looking out for yourself) is both illogical and selfish.
BAH
If I can see that something is better for people collectively than myself (and I've done this at work) then I'm usually willing to take the hit (as it were) and do what's best for the majority. Not always as it doesn't do to let people think you're a soft touch !
The point I'm making, to go back on topic, is that berating people for looking out for themselves because it affects you adversely (ie you are looking out for yourself) is both illogical and selfish.
BAH
In either case, customers with a choice will either choose to put future business elsewhere to avoid being hit by a strike on their planned date of travel, or they will be forced to do so by having their flights cancelled due to the strike. This isn't illogical or selfish, purely necessary.
Oct 26, 2009, 10:55 am
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So, I propose we all strike if the unions go ahead with theirs. Next the staff can go pick up their unemployment beenefits and BA can restart under a different name. The customers will benefit most from this scenario since this is the absolute best way for BA to bring their cost down.
Oct 26, 2009, 10:57 am
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Just trying to see both sides of the argument. For example, I have every sympathy with the CC and the position that they are in. We all know on this board that they do a great job but I can also see things from the passenger point of view. You will have to accept that there will be a lot of pax out there for whom this won't be welcome. Both sides will not come out well if there is a strike.
Oct 26, 2009, 10:57 am
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In either case, customers with a choice will either choose to put future business elsewhere to avoid being hit by a strike on their planned date of travel, or they will be forced to do so by having their flights cancelled due to the strike. This isn't illogical or selfish, purely necessary.
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Oct 26, 2009, 11:00 am
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Just trying to see both sides of the argument. For example, I have every sympathy with the CC and the position that they are in. We all know on this board that they do a great job but I can also see things from the passenger point of view. You will have to accept that there will be a lot of pax out there for whom this won't be welcome. Both sides will not come out well if there is a strike.
I totally agree with this. Strikes always have all sorts of fall-out - let's face it, that's why Unions use them as a bargaining tool.
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