Originally Posted by opus99 (Post 32355297)

Some 777s will be converted to fully cargo aircraft as cargo has been profitable for BA this time around.

Originally Posted by lcylocal (Post 32355337)

This is interesting. Wonder if it will be 777-200 or 300s? Also wonder if it basically means temporarily taking the seats out or a full scale and permanent conversion?

Originally Posted by opus99 (Post 32355297)

Just finished listening to IAGs Q1 call and I’ll summarise:

747 and 777Es are all owned so are easy to retire. The focus of course is on the 747s which we all know their retirement will be accelerated. How many of if any will come back is still to be determined and will depend on how demand comes back.

some 777s will be converted to fully cargo aircraft as cargo has been profitable for BA this time around

Fleet refurbishments are still going ahead but the mix of premium and non premium seats will very likely change both for new deliveries and refurbishment.

787/350 will be the aircraft to restart operations As the group aims to operate about 50% of flying again. By the end of July.

ALSO 777X seems to have been delayed as delivery of 2022 long haul jets now falls by 8 exactly which was the number expected to come in in that year

between 2020 and 2021 there’s only been a reduction of 3 long haul deliveries. This is because going into next year these aircrafts have been paid for and financing secured so it makes more economical sense to take them on

as the months go on the story will develop

the IAG group deliveries has fallen by 68

Originally Posted by opus99 (Post 32355297)

Fleet refurbishments are still going ahead but the mix of premium and non premium seats will very likely change both for new deliveries and refurbishment.

Originally Posted by TedToToe (Post 32355417)

That comment seems firmly aimed at the 77W deliveries and refurbishment where a hi-J configuration is much less likely now. I imagine it’s a little late to contemplate changing the 787-10s, but not completely out of the question.

Originally Posted by opus99 (Post 32355429)

I agree, probably reduced down to about 50J

Originally Posted by richardwft (Post 32355624)

No point getting those B77Ws then.

Originally Posted by opus99 (Post 32355637)

I think they took that initiative and took them out. The number of long haul orders for IAG this year fell by 3 and I’m assuming it’s the leased 77Ws

Originally Posted by opus99 (Post 32355297)

some 777s will be converted to fully cargo aircraft as cargo has been profitable for BA this time around

Originally Posted by TedToToe (Post 32355694)

I’m getting confused between orders and deliveries now! If there is a reduction of 3 long haul deliveries in the 2021-22 timescale, could this be 787-10s being rescheduled?

Originally Posted by opus99 (Post 32355297)

Fleet refurbishments are still going ahead but the mix of premium and non premium seats will very likely change both for new deliveries and refurbishment.

Originally Posted by gliderpilot (Post 32355718)

Can't find the article now, but one of the AvGeek sites has an article on Lufthansa Technik, which is going to be converting an A380 to cargo only (seat removal). Their speculation is that the customer could possibility be BA.