Definitive guide to the bmi Mastercard 20000 mile deal + guide to redeeming bmi miles
#46
Join Date: Jul 2005
Location: UK
Programs: BA Silver
Posts: 736
Originally Posted by nuttyphilt
Shame - the 20,000 miles would come in quite handy. Oh well, time to cancel my existing MBNA card then reapply in a few months.
My application online was successful, but I'm assuming that this part doesn't take into account existing MBNA credit as that appears to be sorted out by a real person at the next stage (which I am currently awaiting).
So, if you have existing MBNA cards, it might be worth calling them to indicate that you want to transfer credit limit rather than cancel first. YMMV - so might mine actually, as I've not had the application completed yet
#47
Join Date: Jun 2005
Location: SAN
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Posts: 4,382
Last week I applied for a new (fee) card on-line, and it the end of the application process it displayed approval and the credit limit. I've been using a non-fee card for a few years, which I now plan to cancel (and re-apply for some time in the future probably).
#48
Join Date: Nov 2006
Location: London
Programs: BD Gold
Posts: 34
Originally Posted by Cargo Cult
So, if you have existing MBNA cards, it might be worth calling them to indicate that you want to transfer credit limit rather than cancel first. YMMV - so might mine actually, as I've not had the application completed yet
I've found with MBNA cards that I've held in the past is that they throw credit at you every few months if you use them regularly (and even if you don't use them regularly )
#49
Join Date: Apr 2006
Location: London
Programs: BA bronze, Hertz pres circle, Marriott Platinum, hilton diamond
Posts: 2,537
[QUOTE=nuttyphilt]TBH, I'm not interested in the credit limit so I'll just cancel first then apply a few months after...QUOTE]
What they mean is that you should be interested in the credit limit, but for different reasons. The reason that you could be being declined is that you are already at your maximum credit limit with MBNA, so to give you another card, would be to essentially give you a credit limit increase.
Other people on this board have reported being declined, then calling back and asking if they reduce their credit linit on the existing card, and apply it to the new application would they be accepted, and some of them have been. So, definately get interested in credit limit!!
I actually had a Virgin card that I had for a balance transfer which I called to cancel the day before I applied for the BMI card. I told them, that I was canceling because I hate Virgin and was never going to fly them again, AND that I intended to apply for the BMI card -was told 'no problem'. I called to apply for the BMI one, and was told they would give me a decision later down the line, I was accepted with a credit limit lower then with my Virgin card. When I called to ask why, they found out the Virgin card hadnt been closed down, which I then did, and they reallocated the credit to the BMI card. So it would seem there is something to this.
What they mean is that you should be interested in the credit limit, but for different reasons. The reason that you could be being declined is that you are already at your maximum credit limit with MBNA, so to give you another card, would be to essentially give you a credit limit increase.
Other people on this board have reported being declined, then calling back and asking if they reduce their credit linit on the existing card, and apply it to the new application would they be accepted, and some of them have been. So, definately get interested in credit limit!!
When I explained that I was doing this as a precursor to applying for a new MBNA-operated card, the agent actually recommended that I leave the old account open for the time being and she would put in a transfer-close note on the existing account, so that the MBNA staff processing the credit limit side would know to transfer the limit from old to new card (or something like that). I could then cancel the old card at a later date. She suggested that this would be looked on more favourably than simply cancelling the old card before the new application.
#50
Join Date: Jun 2005
Location: UK
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Also when you call to 'activate' your new card (read: MBNA try to sell you payment protection insurance!) then you can ask for your credit limit on the card to be reduced - I halved the limit on my new card (a) because it was much more than I needed and (b) because I wanted to keep some clear for my next application (silver, non-fee). Can also set up a D/D over the phone at this point to take the full amount out your bank account (just to make sure you don't end up paying any interest/late fees etc.).
Cheers
A.
Cheers
A.
#51
Join Date: Nov 2006
Programs: Seniors Bus Pass
Posts: 5,531
MBNA definitely operate a "top limit" on credit allowed. I took up this deal last month after advice read here ^ thanks.
As i use it for business use only and lots of flights I asked them to match the existing limit on another business card which it was to replace. Faxed them a copy of proof of existing limit. They did this. This is to be paidby DD from business a/c. at normal bank
When I asked for another card (for personal use, for payment by DD on a personal a/c at same normal bank ) they were going to decline me. As i didnt want that, they would only give me a card if i took some of the set limit off the business card and allocated it to the personal one.
I am happy enough to play this game for a while until they are "happy" with my repayment record and up the limits. I pay off in full, so no difference to normal use - the bonus of 14000 destination miles on the spend and 20000 free miles for use was helpful.
As i use it for business use only and lots of flights I asked them to match the existing limit on another business card which it was to replace. Faxed them a copy of proof of existing limit. They did this. This is to be paidby DD from business a/c. at normal bank
When I asked for another card (for personal use, for payment by DD on a personal a/c at same normal bank ) they were going to decline me. As i didnt want that, they would only give me a card if i took some of the set limit off the business card and allocated it to the personal one.
I am happy enough to play this game for a while until they are "happy" with my repayment record and up the limits. I pay off in full, so no difference to normal use - the bonus of 14000 destination miles on the spend and 20000 free miles for use was helpful.
#52
Join Date: Jun 2006
Location: UK, Peak District near MAN
Programs: BA- blue, BD,DL
Posts: 2,027
I've managed to get hold of a fee paying card after twice being turned down for the basic one. I've now received a letter welcoming me to Diamond Club but I'm already a member so now I've got 2 accounts. Can I merge them into 1?
Chris
Chris
#53
Join Date: Oct 2005
Location: DUB / DXB
Programs: EK Gold, BA Gold
Posts: 2,471
Originally Posted by highpeaklad
now I've got 2 accounts. Can I merge them into 1?
Chris
Chris
#54
Join Date: May 2003
Location: Royston, Herts UK
Programs: BA Exec, BMI DC
Posts: 62
Spouse Card and Redemption Booking
Hi There
As a recent BA Orphan - no regional and poxy seat allocation rules. I've followed the above advice to get myself and a wife a fee free card.
Now we intend to follow the advice about cancelling and getting a fee card in about 2-3 months.
However I've just transferred around 35k of Amex MR points to my new account.
One question I have is that if my spouse and I want to book a redemption do we need to have the correct mileage in each account or can you just pool them ala BA Househould account?
If you can't pool can you transfer from one to the other?
Thanks in advance for all your help.
Kind Regards
Benjurs
As a recent BA Orphan - no regional and poxy seat allocation rules. I've followed the above advice to get myself and a wife a fee free card.
Now we intend to follow the advice about cancelling and getting a fee card in about 2-3 months.
However I've just transferred around 35k of Amex MR points to my new account.
One question I have is that if my spouse and I want to book a redemption do we need to have the correct mileage in each account or can you just pool them ala BA Househould account?
If you can't pool can you transfer from one to the other?
Thanks in advance for all your help.
Kind Regards
Benjurs
#55
Join Date: Jan 2005
Location: SIN 5 days out of 7
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Posts: 5,505
But, you can book as one-way awards for no additional cost.
#56
Join Date: May 2003
Location: Royston, Herts UK
Programs: BA Exec, BMI DC
Posts: 62
Thanks
Thanks jbfield for your prompt response!
So just to get this straight (sorry It's Friday and I'm knackered!) if we needed 60k miles each + cash. Assuming I had 80k and her 40k we can't book until she reaches 60k?
I understand that the one way rewards add flexibility for dates and can get you in F if J/C is not available if you break your trip. But how would you get round not having the 60k?
Am I being 'fick?
Basically we want to go to Zone 7 in J/C with miles and cash. I guess we'll have to spend £13,333 on her card to get her to 60k.
Cheers
Benjurs
So just to get this straight (sorry It's Friday and I'm knackered!) if we needed 60k miles each + cash. Assuming I had 80k and her 40k we can't book until she reaches 60k?
I understand that the one way rewards add flexibility for dates and can get you in F if J/C is not available if you break your trip. But how would you get round not having the 60k?
Am I being 'fick?
Basically we want to go to Zone 7 in J/C with miles and cash. I guess we'll have to spend £13,333 on her card to get her to 60k.
Cheers
Benjurs
#57
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Join Date: Jan 2004
Location: UK
Posts: 11,969
Thanks jbfield for your prompt response!
So just to get this straight (sorry It's Friday and I'm knackered!) if we needed 60k miles each + cash. Assuming I had 80k and her 40k we can't book until she reaches 60k?
I understand that the one way rewards add flexibility for dates and can get you in F if J/C is not available if you break your trip. But how would you get round not having the 60k?
Am I being 'fick?
Basically we want to go to Zone 7 in J/C with miles and cash. I guess we'll have to spend £13,333 on her card to get her to 60k.
Cheers
Benjurs
So just to get this straight (sorry It's Friday and I'm knackered!) if we needed 60k miles each + cash. Assuming I had 80k and her 40k we can't book until she reaches 60k?
I understand that the one way rewards add flexibility for dates and can get you in F if J/C is not available if you break your trip. But how would you get round not having the 60k?
Am I being 'fick?
Basically we want to go to Zone 7 in J/C with miles and cash. I guess we'll have to spend £13,333 on her card to get her to 60k.
Cheers
Benjurs
#58
Join Date: May 2003
Location: Royston, Herts UK
Programs: BA Exec, BMI DC
Posts: 62
Aha!
Penny's (finally) dropped!
Thanks all!^ ^ ^ ^
Thanks all!^ ^ ^ ^
#59
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Join Date: Feb 2004
Location: London
Programs: BA, VS, HH, IHG, MB, MR
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You book 3 one-way tickets (2 in your name, 1 in hers), she books 1 one-way (in her name). Net result - 2 return flights, albeit booked as four one-ways.
Or mix and match - book two outbound 1 ways on BMI and two inbound 1 ways with BA Miles (but this is not ideal unless you have already used your Amex voucher for the year).
#60
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............ I'm learning. Very, very slowly, but it's progress just the same.