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Originally Posted by stevelion
(Post 36010017)
I've seen a few posts like yours that mention things like "fraudulently received the car" and I have no idea what you and others are talking about. Not trying to be argumentative but understand where I may be lacking in my own knowledge and/or judgement. I see discount codes posted all over the internet; AWD and otherwise. Sometimes AWD codes are posted alongside a company name, sometimes not. Avis allows me to enter these codes on their Web site and provides no information in terms of eligibility criteria or other terms and conditions of its use. A "Costo" code could be for a Costco member, a Costco employee, a Costco supplier, or someone who has ever driven by a Costco. Personally, I have no way of knowing and Avis provides no information to help me know who is "allowed" to use this code.
So, what "fraud" is being committed if I rent a car with some AWD code and provide all of my correct/legal personal and payment information during the rental process? If Avis requires some "proof" of something needed to obtain a discount, then is it not totally incumbent on Avis to obtain that before driving off the lot? For all I know, AWD stands for Avis Welcomes Discounts. Has there ever been a legal proceeding (court case or arbitration) in which someone lost a judgement of some sort on the basis that they used a "fraudulent" AWD code? It just seems extremely far-fetched to me. |
Thanks to Canarsie, TravelinSperry, and esaphire to take the time to respond. My thought is that Avis has the information and technology to control the use of coupon and discount codes and have chosen to nothing to prevent, inform, or otherwise discourage use that they believe is inconsistent with THEIR terms and conditions. They could do something as simple as displaying a message indicating the intended usage and any terms or conditions of usage. For example, displaying a message "This code is intended for employee of xxxx " or "...intended for Costco shoppers..." or whatever. Again, Avis possesses the information associated with THIER contracts while we, the renting public, do not have such information. Avis could also quite easily require the use of an email where the domain matches the domain of the company under contract with Avis; this is an extremely common practice used on to limit corporate discount programs. These are just simple examples; but again, Avis chooses to do nothing and, if they don't care enough about who uses these discounts to employ the most basic of checks, I can assure that I care far less and so should the renting public. I see this as no different than the myriad coupon codes available on the internet. Did I "fraudulently" buy those shoes for my wife when I pulled a Zappos coupon code from Retailmenot? I assume not since the first code I tried to use stated "shopping cart not eligible" while the second coupon code worked. Clearly, Zappos has the technology to determine what constitutes eligibility of my $50 shoe purchase and Avis could easily do the same, but for some reason, has chosen not to so.
To Canarsie's points, I agree with both. If denied a discount, I would step aside, evaluate my options, and chose the next best available rate from any car rental company available at that location. This has never happened to me in two+ decades for renting cars from Avis and others. Regarding insurance, my personal auto and liability insurance policy apply (and I always make sure when traveling outside my home country of the U.S.) and I always used a credit card offering secondary coverage so I'm not concerned. |
Originally Posted by stevelion
(Post 36010017)
I've seen a few posts like yours that mention things like "fraudulently received the car" and I have no idea what you and others are talking about. Not trying to be argumentative but understand where I may be lacking in my own knowledge and/or judgement. I see discount codes posted all over the internet; AWD and otherwise. Sometimes AWD codes are posted alongside a company name, sometimes not. Avis allows me to enter these codes on their Web site and provides no information in terms of eligibility criteria or other terms and conditions of its use. A "Costo" code could be for a Costco member, a Costco employee, a Costco supplier, or someone who has ever driven by a Costco. Personally, I have no way of knowing and Avis provides no information to help me know who is "allowed" to use this code.
So, what "fraud" is being committed if I rent a car with some AWD code and provide all of my correct/legal personal and payment information during the rental process? If Avis requires some "proof" of something needed to obtain a discount, then is it not totally incumbent on Avis to obtain that before driving off the lot? For all I know, AWD stands for Avis Welcomes Discounts. Has there ever been a legal proceeding (court case or arbitration) in which someone lost a judgement of some sort on the basis that they used a "fraudulent" AWD code? It just seems extremely far-fetched to me. Even if you buy the damage waiver, you and any authorized driver will remain liable for damage if any of the following apply (7) Damage or loss incurred after the private passenger automobile was rented or an authorized driver was approved as a result of fraudulent information provided to the rental company; |
Hi,
I've been looking around at the codes, most seem to be for the US from what I can see. I am looking for a car hire in Lanzarote in a few weeks, the "safest" one I seem to have seen on here is the Hilton Honours code K851000, however, when I google it, it seems it could be a really old thing as Hilton now seem to be partnered with Enterprise, Alamo and National https://www.hilton.com/en/offers/car...gleLink,i87077 Has anyone used the HH code recently? Specifically in Europe or indeed, does anyone recommend a different one? Thanks |
Originally Posted by DIM
(Post 35152400)
Double checked for you, you good, Midlander. As it is small business discount, you don't have to be American.
Dim. Is there a way you could send me an email about this ? Just saying I can use it? I have a place here in CT US that is brutal about codes. Thanks Kevin [email protected] |
ugg, one of my AWDs shows the price until the last checkout, at which point at the last reserve confirmation button it error:
"The Avis Worldwide Discount (AWD) number is invalid." UPDATE: I had it pickup neighborhood location and drop off to nearby airport, no extra charge, it was erroring. I went to try it with roundtrip same location and worked. I then went back and did the original and it worked. Maybe a glitch, or maybe sometimes you have to reset it like this - leaving this post up in case others have similar problems. I've noticed some strange things in the past when testing AWDs sometimes the process gets messed up. |
NEW coupons
Get a new coupon from AVIS, sharing with you, guys. It says, "works with your AWD", but I don't think its targeted.
Now through June 30, 2024, rent with Avis and you can enjoy $15 off base rates when you spend $175 or more with a minimum three consecutive day rental. Use coupon # MUXA003 when booking. Offer valid on all car groups, excluding specialty vehicles, at participating Avis airport locations in the contiguous U.S. Hope it will help you to save! |
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Been renting Avis for years. Last night when I tried to book a reservation with company AWD and coupon code, the webpage won't let me, saying "The rate code you entered is not applicable for the selected return date". But I tried different dates, different coupon codes, all spitted out the same error message. Anyone had this issue recently?
Booking the same reservation over Avis iPhone App did not give this error, so the issue resides on their webpage side. |
Originally Posted by FTgold
(Post 36222656)
Been renting Avis for years. Last night when I tried to book a reservation with company AWD and coupon code, the webpage won't let me, saying "The rate code you entered is not applicable for the selected return date". But I tried different dates, different coupon codes, all spitted out the same error message. Anyone had this issue recently?
Booking the same reservation over Avis iPhone App did not give this error, so the issue resides on their webpage side. Question: Were you picking up and returning to the same location? I'm doing a one-way rental from a regional airport location, so I thought the glitch might have been related to my slightly unusual request. |
Originally Posted by xtingu
(Post 36229572)
Yes, I just had this exact situation a moment ago on the web through my phone, but the app (Android) was fine.
Question: Were you picking up and returning to the same location? I'm doing a one-way rental from a regional airport location, so I thought the glitch might have been related to my slightly unusual request. |
Best awd
What AWD gives me best discount and is safe to use nowadays?
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Originally Posted by chengcheng2
(Post 35683001)
trip report on J323400
used at SLC, insane rate, free upgrade and included LDW Got a text message with car info on it so didn't even need to talk to anyone - just scanned QR code from app and left (in reality though when I arrived I got another text saying the car in the first text was no longer available, but talked to someone at the service desk and got another upgrade!) 10/10 If God forbid, I’m an accident, can there be potential issues with my insurance claiming that this is fraud? |
Originally Posted by Shmoe
(Post 36250433)
Is this a corporate discount?
If God forbid, I’m an accident, can there be potential issues with my insurance claiming that this is fraud? https://www.avis.com/en/legal-documents/rental-terms |
Originally Posted by Shmoe
(Post 36250433)
Is this a corporate discount?
If God forbid, I’m an accident, can there be potential issues with my insurance claiming that this is fraud? |
Been using one of the AWD codes from here for a few years now and had no issues. Always had unlimited miles included. Tried making a reservation picking up at one airport, and dropping off at another. For this reservation it says "0 Miles included | $0.35/addt'l mile" Is that normal for one-way rentals?
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Originally Posted by woodardhsd
(Post 36265229)
Been using one of the AWD codes from here for a few years now and had no issues. Always had unlimited miles included. Tried making a reservation picking up at one airport, and dropping off at another. For this reservation it says "0 Miles included | $0.35/addt'l mile" Is that normal for one-way rentals?
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I will say this. I have no idea what is considered fraus in the USA - all I will say is when I am in the USA I never use corporate codes. In Europe, it is a different matter and the law is different. If there are codes out thee which have been put into to the public domain you would alwys be insured as it is the law in all of Europe and the UK. However, this might well see you going on Avis's blacklist. If you do not have an accident you will never be uncovered - they simply could not care less. I leave it to you to judge.
I will say this as well - it they can afford to offer these rates to Corporate Customers, does it not show how Mrs Thrupenzoff here is being ripped off at regular rates? |
Italy codes?
Any good codes for Italy? Looking to do a one way rental from MXP to FLR.
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Has anyone tried J323400 lately? That was my go-to rate, but it seems like it's been nerfed. I'm getting better rates just using the Amazon benefits option.
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Originally Posted by sorro
(Post 36373041)
Has anyone tried J323400 lately? That was my go-to rate, but it seems like it's been nerfed. I'm getting better rates just using the Amazon benefits option.
https://www.avisforbusiness.com/rewards/ |
AWD ś , country sites and rates
There are codes = AWD ś that inffuence a rate.
And there are all these Avis sites with different rates... Someone aks for a Italy awd ....well they are the same as USA -co,uk . jpn or other sites . All the differnt Avis sites have different rates .. Does Visa AWD W819200 gives you a good rate ? On what site ? For my next Las Vegas rental I used that AWD on www.avis.is/en So you book , and rebook. Have fun |
Anyone have an AWD for Halifax YHZ?
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Yup. Section 2.3
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Originally Posted by AutoSlash
(Post 36265351)
Yes, it’s normal for one-way rentals using a corporate AWD.
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Originally Posted by bedeve
(Post 36375306)
There are codes = AWD ś that inffuence a rate.
And there are all these Avis sites with different rates... Someone aks for a Italy awd ....well they are the same as USA -co,uk . jpn or other sites . All the differnt Avis sites have different rates .. Does Visa AWD W819200 gives you a good rate ? On what site ? For my next Las Vegas rental I used that AWD on www.avis.is/en So you book , and rebook. Have fun I have a Mastercard….. |
Originally Posted by jjbiv
(Post 36521104)
Not always the case. Try AWD D436100 as an example.
Gives me great pricing on a one way rental |
any AWD for Iceland?
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Joke ??
5 postings below on same page .. |
Originally Posted by mak101
(Post 36549756)
any AWD for Iceland?
Some postings below on this page ... Read! www.avis.is/en W819200 |
Is it normal for some codes to show as "sold out" even though the location clearly has availability? I'm using a code from work that keeps showing sold out, but when i try other "common" codes it magically has availability, although at a much higher rate!
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D436100
Gives me a really good rate, but i am not sure, if i am allowed to use it. Does anyone know, what is behind thed AWD ? |
I have been making reservations while logged out of my Avis account to try out different AWDs. Then I would add the reservation to my account via the app to get the Preferred status and to avoid the line. It would usually change the amount by a couple of dollars. But now I got a significant difference while doing this trick ($200 to $260). And on another reservation the change is from $300 to $340. Anyone else has this issue?
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Hello,
Does Avis ask any crudential or does it check for eligibility when using AWDs ? I am planning on renting at Lisbon airport thanks |
Originally Posted by iitool
(Post 35801427)
Initially they tried to invalidate the contract by saying I had breached one of its clauses (The renter must return the car to the agreed location at the agreed time). I argued the point saying that the car could not be returned because it had been involved in an accident and was towed from the scene because it was wrecked. I also went to hospital that night and was not able to make contact until the next day. They eventually agreed which left me on hook for the standard deductible of $5000 in this case.
I spent the next two years arguing with them that I should only be liable for the $100 deductible as that was the stated amount in the rental contract I had with Avis. Back when this happened I had never been asked to provide evidence of my association with the AWD code or even asked about it at all. When making a reservation then picking up the car there was no way to tell if a code had been used. I found that the website and app remembered the code and even when clearing it from the reservation form it would still apply. Based on this I put it to Avis that it was their responsibility to verify the entitlement to the code before entering into a rental contract and that any contract signed by both parties was legally binding (At the time there were no clauses in the agreement about using AWD codes). Eventually they threatened to take it to court and they stated they would argue that the use of a the code that I was not entitled to made my actions fraudulent and that they would push for me to pay the entire cost of repairing the vehicle plus legal costs. I spoke with a lawyer who advised that it was probably better to pay the $5000 than risk full costs plus fees so I did. its Avis’ job to validate discounts at the counter. You shouldn’t be held liable for not being able to validate association with the code because that is their job to do that. |
https://www.avis.com/en/legal-documents/rental-terms
2.3 Rate Eligibility Requirements. If at the time of booking, the rate in the Agreement is a conditional rate (such as a special rate, promotional rate, or corporate rate) or benefit discount code, and at the time of booking or at any time during your rental, you fail to meet the conditions of the rate, we will charge you the applicable default higher rate for similar rentals. An unauthorized use of a conditional rate or benefit discount code will be viewed as an unlawful use and theft of services for which Avis can pursue legal remedies, including but not limited to reasonable attorneys’ fees and costs, and for which Avis can void any associated discounts or rental benefits. |
Newbie here with car rentals... Are codes specific to locations? If so, anything for San Diego? Do agents check for ID (if codes are associated with companies)?
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Originally Posted by TOMFORD
(Post 36748106)
Newbie here with car rentals... Are codes specific to locations? If so, anything for San Diego? Do agents check for ID (if codes are associated with companies)?
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Probably nothing new but recent AWD codes from Costco Travel bookings
US: A108353 Canada: C857541 |
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