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Lifemiles serious booking problems - Beware (from January 2022 onwards)

Lifemiles serious booking problems - Beware (from January 2022 onwards)

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Please do your homework before buying Lifemiles. It is what it is... for some that's useful, for others it's not.

Biggest complaints are about
- mixed class bookings are available but now many of the suitable connections dont show
- not being able to book anything that isn't available online (there are work-arounds, see screenshot method below)
- the quality of the call center (English speaking agents are scarce, you might get thrown in a loop with call transfers within their call center)
- no stopovers (>24H) or open jaws, but you can book one way awards
- no reservations on Certain subsidiaries of Star Alliance carriers (Lufthansa Cityline, Germanwings)
- no availability showing at all on the website (try logging out and logging back in)

Problems with ticketing / lack of confirmation screen or email
- write down the confirmation number shown on the screen after confirming your purchase.
check here: http://serviciosenlinea.avianca.com/...doReserva.aspx

Sometimes, even if you cannot see the PNR, the record may have been created, so better to call them and give them flight details you were trying to book. They can find the PNR from those details.
- ticketing usually takes place within 10-15 min of booking
- but it may also take up to 2 days
- if miles have been deducted from your account and a temporary authorization has been placed on your CC, you're probably fine even if you did not see a confirmation screen
- if no e-ticket number is visible on checkmytrip.com after two days, you should contact LifeMiles. You can expedite the ticketing by emailing with your booking reference to: [email protected] after you have booked, especially if you have booked last minute flights, and need ticketing straight away

Screenshot method.
So, on a date you are looking for in the future, there is availability for LAX-NRT and NRT-BKK. But not LAX-NRT-BKK.
It may be a case of the LM system not offering the through connection.

Take three screen shots - two 'available' screen shots for LAX-NRT and NRT-BKK and the 'not available' screen for LAX-BKK.
Send them all off with a scan of your passport page (PDF) and LM will make the booking manually for you.

You need to have 40% of the miles in your account for them to make the booking. On some occasions, credit card points do not transfer over immediately. In such cases also send screenshots of the points being debited from your credit card. In some cases the LM account will immediately show the points transferred in the account activity section. Send a screenshot of that as well.

After a day or two, you will get a reply via email saying the matter has been escalated to an internal area. The next day someone will call you from 305 447 2819 and will process the payment over the phone. You will need to set a PIN which you can do in your online LM account (under the account access section of your online profile).

Send to these two email addresses, and CC yourself (just for your records)
[email protected] (invalid as of July 2022)
[email protected]

Sample email:
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Email topic: Urgent request for booking Lifemiles Award
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Dear Sirs,

I have tried several times, over several days, but the following itinerary does not show on the website.
Please see the attached screenshots I took just now.
Please do the manual booking First Class/Business class for xx,000 miles. (*Know how many miles the whole award should cost-here, to avoid surprises once ticketed)

The availability is only 1 seat for this date, so please process this request urgently before it is gone.

Los Angeles (LAX) - Bangkok (BKK)
Saturday August 11th 2018
NH 175 connecting to NH 807
(*Provide the specific flight numbers you want, to avoid surprises once ticketed)

My passport copy (Number xxxx, expiry 20xx/xx/xx, Nationality xxx) is attached in this email.

LifeMiles Number: xxx
First Name: xxx
Last name: xxx
Date of Birth: Month, date, year
Gender: Male/Female
Email: xxxx
Phone Number: +1-xxxx

Regards,
XXX
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Old Nov 21, 22, 6:39 pm
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If you only have hand luggage book BOS-MUC-FRA just disembark at MUC anyway? F should allow a fair bit of hand luggage.
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Old Nov 21, 22, 6:43 pm
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This maybe married segments issue.
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Old Nov 21, 22, 7:42 pm
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Almost certainly married segment availability.

Not keen myself to drop segments on award tickets as they have all your data
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Old Nov 21, 22, 10:33 pm
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Yeah I guess I'm just not that happy about it. Expertflyer showing availability has generally translated to LM availability for me. I am seeing 3 F seats available in EF for tomorrow night's BOS-MUC flight, but nothing available on lifemiles.com.

Definitely won't be dropping any segments on an award ticket.
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Old Nov 21, 22, 11:22 pm
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Originally Posted by Cynicor View Post
Almost certainly married segment availability.

Not keen myself to drop segments on award tickets as they have all your data…
Ohhh, the tickets I've flown and segments I've dropped with LifeMiles............... I'd happily do over all of them again in heartbeat even if they have all my data

Trust me, it is FINE lol.
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Old Nov 22, 22, 3:59 am
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In this case there is no issue. The dropping of a segment could become "interesting" to an airline if you book A to B to C where A-B costs more miles than the entire A-B-C. This usually involves different zones like tricks from the past in this forum have shown.

BOS-MUC vs. BOS-MUC-FRA costs the exactly same miles so LM is no worse off whether one leaves in MUC ("ohh had a change in schedule / meetings - so sorry") or goes to FRA. No harm done, to the contrary, one actually would have paid for some unnecessary taxes and airport fees for MUC-FRA. YMMV.
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Old Nov 22, 22, 4:04 am
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BTW, on paid fares this is a different story, e.g. starting in BUD to get cheaper F fares on LH to US or other places and then dropping MUC-BUD or FRA-BUD at the end is something LH does not like, but in the LM case, miles cost is the same to LM.
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Old Nov 22, 22, 12:37 pm
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Originally Posted by demue View Post
In this case there is no issue. The dropping of a segment could become "interesting" to an airline if you book A to B to C where A-B costs more miles than the entire A-B-C. This usually involves different zones like tricks from the past in this forum have shown.
Dropping a segment is not what draws attention. It’s mostly public attention and idiots calling the airline. There have been tricks living for almost a decade but never never went public.
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Old Nov 22, 22, 7:45 pm
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Originally Posted by mlqsko View Post
Ohhh, the tickets I've flown and segments I've dropped with LifeMiles............... I'd happily do over all of them again in heartbeat even if they have all my data

Trust me, it is FINE lol.
any recommendation on how to do it with checked baggage?
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Old Nov 23, 22, 1:58 am
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Originally Posted by mlqsko View Post
Dropping a segment is not what draws attention. Its mostly public attention and idiots calling the airline. There have been tricks living for almost a decade but never never went public.
True, you don't need to convince me. Though some may say that one of the old LM tricks allegedly died because UA had so many no shows in F on the last segment that they raised questions and hence LM figured finally out what was going on in that case. Could have been someone calling though as well , who knows.
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Old Nov 23, 22, 11:46 am
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Are there still any tricks working on LM? I only know of one - C1 to C2. If anyone has one and is willing to discuss discreetly, please PM.
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Old Nov 24, 22, 3:19 am
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Originally Posted by carlosiah View Post
any recommendation on how to do it with checked baggage?
You have medicine you need at XXX airport layover. Also, remember in absolutely worst, worst, worst case scenario, your bag will NOT fly without you to the final destination (period!) and you'll just have to retrieve it.

I have short checked bags on 1.15h intl connections without even a question why.

Originally Posted by demue View Post
True, you don't need to convince me. Though some may say that one of the old LM tricks allegedly died because UA had so many no shows in F on the last segment that they raised questions and hence LM figured finally out what was going on in that case. Could have been someone calling though as well , who knows.
LM knew what was going on for ages, but they had more people buying LMs than ones spending them on tricked routes. It was a win situation for them.
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Old Nov 26, 22, 9:58 pm
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Originally Posted by progapanda View Post
In my recent experience, UA has refused to switch out the Lifemiles FF# with another program on an award redemption until before check-in. view-with-a-room suggestion of using the Avianca booking management system to change the Lifemiles FF# with another Star Alliance program has worked.
I've struggled with this over the years, it's not that they refuse, they just don't know how to change it or it rejects after the change. Usually we need to get a supervisor involved to get it properly switched. These days, I book the ticket as if its for someone else, of corse using my own name. In that event the LM # does not attach to the booking, so it's then simple to call UA and add it or pull up the booking and Add it yourself.
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Old Nov 26, 22, 10:03 pm
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ANA Business Seats???

I've been debating buying miles,,(its been over 3 years). But my Ideal redemptions seam o be completely gone these days
USA-Tokyo , USA-Tokyo-Sydney. On All Nippon in Business

Anyone finding anything on these Routes in Business
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Old Nov 28, 22, 9:16 pm
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I Guess not??????
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