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Old May 26, 2014, 8:47 am
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Every forum on Flyertalk has a personality. A forum gains a personality through user input over time, and Lifemiles is a very definitive example of how users have developed a unique community.

While Flyertalk boards actively encourage sharing of info, the Lifemiles community has developed and thrived via obscuring of certain data elements. It may not be easy for new participants to break through the codes and gain knowledge of the program's quirks, but the overall board community has adopted this unique approach. And frankly, that is not going to change overnight.

If a FT member wants to participate on this board, then they will need to respect other users. Hence, posts that run counter to this community's standards, will be removed.
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C1 North America
C1.5 Caribbean, Bermuda
C2 Europe
C2.5 Middle East
C3 Asia
C4 South America
C5 Africa
C6 Oceania

2X, 3X: in the context of this LifeMiles thread, 2X and 3X refer to any 2nd and 3rd legs of a one-way award ticket.

LifeMiles' Star Alliance Award Chart

LifeMiles' old Star Alliance Award Chart (before Oct 15 2014) // Table of changes

Cash & Miles redemptions: the price per mile purchased during award booking varies significantly depending on how many miles are purchased. The "sweet spots" are between 38% and 58% of the total mileage required, where miles are purchased for 1.5 cents. See here for some examples.

Beware of Cabotage: LifeMiles has been known to issue tickets that constitute Cabotage, and at least one instance of denied boarding has been reported, stranding the passenger. An easily-seen example is travel on Copa from LAX to SJU (via PTY).

Understand Cabotage: Departing country 1, transiting country 2, returning to country 1 (no stopping) *is* cabotage (example: depart JFK, connect in YYZ to return to ORD, or depart Miami, connect in Bogota, return to San Francisco). On the other hand, departing country 1, going to completely unrelated country 2, and ending up in country 3, is not cabotage. So if you fly JFK-JNB-ZRH, for instance, this is completely not cabotage.

Availability: Seeing availability for *A award seats elsewhere is no guarantee they are accessible on Lifemiles. For instance award space shown on ANA often is not accessible on Lifemiles. Similarly, finding award space on single legs doesn't mean you'll get award space on the combined itinerary. And no, there is no way to overcome that.

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Send email to [email protected] with attached screenshots on Lifemiles website of each individual leg showing availability. Also, screenshot showing no availability as one booking. Include passenger names, gender and DOB and copy of passenger passport. They will either call you for payment or email the itinerary and give you 3 days to call up and make payment by CC.

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Old Jul 8, 2014, 1:18 am
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Didn't realize the gummy was still active as it seems woodcutting isn't anymore, at least not in J :/
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Old Jul 8, 2014, 3:02 pm
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Originally Posted by Wilko Pali Sedef
Didn't realize the gummy was still active as it seems woodcutting isn't anymore, at least not in J :/
Both are still available
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Old Jul 8, 2014, 4:25 pm
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Well everyone it was fun while it lasted. Gummy is now pricing at 32,500 from the US. Can't believe it lasted this long. Let's all bow our heads and have a moment of silence...

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Old Jul 8, 2014, 4:33 pm
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Originally Posted by stinger101
Well everyone it was fun while it lasted. GUM is now pricing at 32,500 from the US. Can't believe it lasted this long. Let's all bow our heads and have a moment of silence...
I can confirm as well.
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Old Jul 8, 2014, 4:37 pm
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Que descanse en paz nuestro gummy santo...

In other news, BWI has disappeared from the smart search
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Old Jul 8, 2014, 4:39 pm
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Search is acting very slow. Let's hope gummy is the only one they fixed.
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Old Jul 8, 2014, 5:31 pm
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Originally Posted by stinger101
Well everyone it was fun while it lasted. It is now pricing at 32,500 from the US. Can't believe it lasted this long. Let's all bow our heads and have a moment of silence...
I do wonder if the trick will just now work in reverse...select your preferred airline and way you go? Website not playing so no way to check...clearly it's overwhelmed by all the tricksters checking all their favourite routings!
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Old Jul 8, 2014, 5:32 pm
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it was a matter of time. I remember reading on here how airport agents were tracking all the skip segments to the gummy that were issued by AV. too bad i didn't get enough time to take advantage of it. I do hope I can take advantage of the other stuff.
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Old Jul 8, 2014, 5:37 pm
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Wow... And do I ever feel lucky for booking 3 of these since Saturday!!!
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Old Jul 8, 2014, 5:50 pm
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It's listed in the Philippines now.
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Old Jul 8, 2014, 6:11 pm
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No guarantee you will be able to get away with keeping these. I was accused of spamming the thread with my article against using hidden cities itineraries but it is pretty relevant.
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Old Jul 8, 2014, 6:13 pm
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Originally Posted by TProphet
No guarantee you will be able to get away with keeping these. I was accused of spamming the thread with my article against using hidden cities itineraries but it is pretty relevant.
I think LM coming back and saying you owe us more miles(money) especially on tickets booked with cash and points clearly violates DOT laws.
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Old Jul 8, 2014, 6:17 pm
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Originally Posted by stinger101
I think LM coming back and saying you owe us more miles(money) especially on tickets booked with cash and points clearly violates DOT laws.
I assume what they meant was...if you've got multiple of these tickets booked, and LM has now caught on to what is happening...then perhaps, and the chance is slim, when you next throwaway a city, you might be accused of a violation of the T&Cs and find your account and/or future bookings in jeopardy. Highly unlikely though.
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Old Jul 8, 2014, 6:35 pm
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Originally Posted by stinger101
It's listed in the Philippines now.
I really enjoyed gummy to the US, since I lived in gummy. Have to figure another cheap way to get to the US since the option seem to haves closed. Need to explore all the routes that start from gummy- may find some other great routings.

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Old Jul 8, 2014, 9:42 pm
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On the plus side, those of us living in North Asia can now get to GUM much more cheaply than before.
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