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Old May 26, 2014, 8:47 am
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Every forum on Flyertalk has a personality. A forum gains a personality through user input over time, and Lifemiles is a very definitive example of how users have developed a unique community.

While Flyertalk boards actively encourage sharing of info, the Lifemiles community has developed and thrived via obscuring of certain data elements. It may not be easy for new participants to break through the codes and gain knowledge of the program's quirks, but the overall board community has adopted this unique approach. And frankly, that is not going to change overnight.

If a FT member wants to participate on this board, then they will need to respect other users. Hence, posts that run counter to this community's standards, will be removed.
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C1 North America
C1.5 Caribbean, Bermuda
C2 Europe
C2.5 Middle East
C3 Asia
C4 South America
C5 Africa
C6 Oceania

2X, 3X: in the context of this LifeMiles thread, 2X and 3X refer to any 2nd and 3rd legs of a one-way award ticket.

LifeMiles' Star Alliance Award Chart

LifeMiles' old Star Alliance Award Chart (before Oct 15 2014) // Table of changes

Cash & Miles redemptions: the price per mile purchased during award booking varies significantly depending on how many miles are purchased. The "sweet spots" are between 38% and 58% of the total mileage required, where miles are purchased for 1.5 cents. See here for some examples.

Beware of Cabotage: LifeMiles has been known to issue tickets that constitute Cabotage, and at least one instance of denied boarding has been reported, stranding the passenger. An easily-seen example is travel on Copa from LAX to SJU (via PTY).

Understand Cabotage: Departing country 1, transiting country 2, returning to country 1 (no stopping) *is* cabotage (example: depart JFK, connect in YYZ to return to ORD, or depart Miami, connect in Bogota, return to San Francisco). On the other hand, departing country 1, going to completely unrelated country 2, and ending up in country 3, is not cabotage. So if you fly JFK-JNB-ZRH, for instance, this is completely not cabotage.

Availability: Seeing availability for *A award seats elsewhere is no guarantee they are accessible on Lifemiles. For instance award space shown on ANA often is not accessible on Lifemiles. Similarly, finding award space on single legs doesn't mean you'll get award space on the combined itinerary. And no, there is no way to overcome that.

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Send email to [email protected] with attached screenshots on Lifemiles website of each individual leg showing availability. Also, screenshot showing no availability as one booking. Include passenger names, gender and DOB and copy of passenger passport. They will either call you for payment or email the itinerary and give you 3 days to call up and make payment by CC.

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Old Jul 16, 2014, 1:15 pm
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Old Jul 17, 2014, 8:13 am
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Looks like Lifemiles does not show availability for Lufthansa F anymore. I've been searching FRA to JFK, ORD, IAD and got nothing. I really hope this is a temporary thing. On the bright side, it appears they finally fixed the website for searching out of ORD.
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Old Jul 17, 2014, 8:28 am
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Originally Posted by doradee
Looks like Lifemiles does not show availability for Lufthansa F anymore. I've been searching FRA to JFK, ORD, IAD and got nothing. I really hope this is a temporary thing.
I can confirm no LH F availability from BOM-MUC which shows on ANA...

Yes, let's hope that this is only a temporary glitch.
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Old Jul 17, 2014, 11:06 am
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LH

There is still some LH F left....


What was the trick of re-setting the counter of the Lifemiles flight check ?
I know i saw it somewhere....
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Old Jul 17, 2014, 11:12 am
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I'm not seeing it on F8A8 routes, T-14 to T-1

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Old Jul 17, 2014, 11:57 am
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Originally Posted by lsed
I'm not seeing it on F8A8 routes, T-14 to T-1
Thats no guarantee that award seats must be available... Check availability with the ANA tool...

And mind, it's holiday season and LH widely cut F-cl on many routes in the last weeks / months...
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Old Jul 17, 2014, 12:00 pm
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LH F availability showing on ANA is definitely not showing up on LM. Availability on US routes is pretty bad for the next 2 weeks though.

Interesting there are no problems pulling up LH J and Y inventory.
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Old Jul 17, 2014, 12:34 pm
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Originally Posted by Air Rarotonga
Thats no guarantee that award seats must be available...
Well, obviously.
Originally Posted by Air Rarotonga

Check availability with the ANA tool...
Availability is showing on ANA and AC.



I hope it's not LH that is blocking it
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Old Jul 17, 2014, 1:41 pm
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Originally Posted by Onewhoknows
There is still some LH F left...
Nope - I just checked again.

Originally Posted by lsed
Well, obviously.

Availability is showing on ANA and AC.

I hope it's not LH that is blocking it
Might be the case.

Originally Posted by tng11
LH F availability showing on ANA is definitely not showing up on LM. Availability on US routes is pretty bad for the next 2 weeks though.

Interesting there are no problems pulling up LH J and Y inventory.
Showing on ANA and UA.bomb. (Even when not logged in as an elite)

Originally Posted by Air Rarotonga
Thats no guarantee that award seats must be available... Check availability with the ANA tool...

And mind, it's holiday season and LH widely cut F-cl on many routes in the last weeks / months...
These are wide-open LH F-class flights, so something is going on...
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Old Jul 17, 2014, 2:30 pm
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Originally Posted by SuperFlyBoy
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These are wide-open LH F-class flights, so something is going on...
Concur. Based on my checking various routes, and not just ex-US ones, I can't see a single LH F seat that is available (via ANA) being shown on LM.

Perhaps LM just got the bill from LH for all the First Class redemptions?

Based on what has been said about how airlines reimburse each other for these seats - that is keeping a relatively equal number each way - it would be quite easy to see how the number of LM redemptions for LH First Class seats far out numbered the reverse...
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Old Jul 18, 2014, 3:24 am
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I have found a C3 miscoded as C1 (seems to show only Y) and Woodcutter of course but the C6 seems to be elusive, is it still on I have checked about 300 Airports but all correctly coded so far so I would appreciate a simple, "it's still on" and I will search further.
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Old Jul 18, 2014, 3:53 am
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Originally Posted by jumbooze
I have found a C3 miscoded as C1 (seems to show only Y) and Woodcutter of course but the C6 seems to be elusive, is it still on I have checked about 300 Airports but all correctly coded so far so I would appreciate a simple, "it's still on" and I will search further.
Unclear what you're looking for. An airport in C6, miscoded as what? or an airport in Cx, miscoded as C6?

And the answer is yes.
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Old Jul 18, 2014, 6:19 am
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Originally Posted by WolfvanWeen
Unclear what you're looking for. An airport in C6, miscoded as what? or an airport in Cx, miscoded as C6?

And the answer is yes.
Thanks for letting me know there is still hope

Looking for if there's an airport miscoded as C6 So that I can get to C6 and back.

Thanks to the woodcutter & the C3 as C1 I can move around.
In total I know 3 fun airports that lets me move they are unfortunately limited to C1,C2 and C3.

I've read through the thread and I see mentions of the (for me) elusive C6.
Will have to search harder, but the hunt is part of the game right .
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Old Jul 18, 2014, 8:23 am
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Originally Posted by Air Rarotonga
Quite a detour but nice overnighter :-)
Not necessarily a detour (or overnighter) if you plan to use it and combine with AA's relatively generous chart from C2.5
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Old Jul 18, 2014, 8:49 am
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LH F is still bookable

just booked a LH F redemption for 2. If you look for 'connecting' flights you will find availability
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