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Old May 26, 2014, 8:47 am
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Originally Posted by Moderator2
Every forum on Flyertalk has a personality. A forum gains a personality through user input over time, and Lifemiles is a very definitive example of how users have developed a unique community.

While Flyertalk boards actively encourage sharing of info, the Lifemiles community has developed and thrived via obscuring of certain data elements. It may not be easy for new participants to break through the codes and gain knowledge of the program's quirks, but the overall board community has adopted this unique approach. And frankly, that is not going to change overnight.

If a FT member wants to participate on this board, then they will need to respect other users. Hence, posts that run counter to this community's standards, will be removed.
Region definitions
C1 North America
C1.5 Caribbean, Bermuda
C2 Europe
C2.5 Middle East
C3 Asia
C4 South America
C5 Africa
C6 Oceania

2X, 3X: in the context of this LifeMiles thread, 2X and 3X refer to any 2nd and 3rd legs of a one-way award ticket.

LifeMiles' Star Alliance Award Chart

LifeMiles' old Star Alliance Award Chart (before Oct 15 2014) // Table of changes

Cash & Miles redemptions: the price per mile purchased during award booking varies significantly depending on how many miles are purchased. The "sweet spots" are between 38% and 58% of the total mileage required, where miles are purchased for 1.5 cents. See here for some examples.

Beware of Cabotage: LifeMiles has been known to issue tickets that constitute Cabotage, and at least one instance of denied boarding has been reported, stranding the passenger. An easily-seen example is travel on Copa from LAX to SJU (via PTY).

Understand Cabotage: Departing country 1, transiting country 2, returning to country 1 (no stopping) *is* cabotage (example: depart JFK, connect in YYZ to return to ORD, or depart Miami, connect in Bogota, return to San Francisco). On the other hand, departing country 1, going to completely unrelated country 2, and ending up in country 3, is not cabotage. So if you fly JFK-JNB-ZRH, for instance, this is completely not cabotage.

Availability: Seeing availability for *A award seats elsewhere is no guarantee they are accessible on Lifemiles. For instance award space shown on ANA often is not accessible on Lifemiles. Similarly, finding award space on single legs doesn't mean you'll get award space on the combined itinerary. And no, there is no way to overcome that.

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Send email to [email protected] with attached screenshots on Lifemiles website of each individual leg showing availability. Also, screenshot showing no availability as one booking. Include passenger names, gender and DOB and copy of passenger passport. They will either call you for payment or email the itinerary and give you 3 days to call up and make payment by CC.

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Old Jul 7, 2014, 1:45 pm
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Originally Posted by WolfvanWeen
I hope you accompanied that with a PM to the OP that you were joking. Otherwise the poor fellow might be very nervous now...
I'll make up the spare room for stray FTers on questionable layovers
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Old Jul 7, 2014, 1:52 pm
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I'll make up the spare room for stray FTers on questionable layovers
Haha, Johnny, BOG here we come!!!
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Old Jul 7, 2014, 3:06 pm
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Old Jul 7, 2014, 3:27 pm
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If I fly a fully gummy return and not skip sectors is there any issue with cabotage via asia?
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Old Jul 7, 2014, 3:29 pm
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Originally Posted by PbodyPhoto
If I fly a fully gummy return and not skip sectors is there any issue with cabotage via asia?
Maybe the wiki needs tweaking slightly

If you fly a gummy without skipping sectors then it is fine if you are on a US based carrier.
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Old Jul 7, 2014, 3:41 pm
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Originally Posted by JohnnyColombia
Maybe the wiki needs tweaking slightly

If you fly a gummy without skipping sectors then it is fine if you are on a US based carrier.
or if the destination is not in the US but in Canada
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Old Jul 7, 2014, 4:06 pm
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Can I fly a gummy on an Asian or European carrier from the lower 48? Is that acceptable if the final sector is on an american carrier?
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Old Jul 7, 2014, 4:10 pm
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Originally Posted by PbodyPhoto
Can I fly a gummy on an Asian or European carrier from the lower 48? Is that acceptable if the final sector is on an american carrier?
Yes, you need at least one segment on a USA-based carrier.

From DL, just found this, but it has better examples than most I've seen given publicly, and it is from a US-based airline so they've certainly done their research into it:

http://www.delta.com/content/www/en_.../cabotage.html
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Old Jul 7, 2014, 4:12 pm
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Perfect, So a European or Asian carrier can take me part of the way as long as an American carrier operates the first or last sectors in to or out of US soil?
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Old Jul 7, 2014, 4:14 pm
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Originally Posted by PbodyPhoto
Perfect, So a European or Asian carrier can take me part of the way as long as an American carrier operates the first or last sectors in to or out of US soil?
Correct.
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Old Jul 7, 2014, 4:37 pm
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Thanks, time to buy miles for a weekend in the sun this winter.
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Old Jul 7, 2014, 5:29 pm
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Thanks, time to buy miles for a weekend in the sun this winter.
Not sure what you meant when you mentioned Gummy. If you are referring to the tricked routing, I believe LM only offers one airline. If you are merely travelling to Gummy, then there are all kinds of options
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Old Jul 7, 2014, 5:32 pm
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Originally Posted by babypuwet
Not sure what you meant when you mentioned Gummy. If you are referring to the tricked routing, I believe LM only offers one airline. If you are merely travelling to Gummy, then there are all kinds of options
that's changed recently afaiik
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Old Jul 7, 2014, 5:38 pm
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Originally Posted by babypuwet
Not sure what you meant when you mentioned Gummy. If you are referring to the tricked routing, I believe LM only offers one airline. If you are merely travelling to Gummy, then there are all kinds of options
I can assure you PbodyPhoto knows what PbodyPhoto is doing .
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Old Jul 7, 2014, 10:01 pm
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Saw an economy option involving gummy including TK...
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