Hi all.

I'm planning a routing from HKG to DPS.

I'm able to book CX from HKG to CGK using avios then plan to book with Lion or the hop over from CGK to DPS.

Being that they will be separate tickets, we shall have to clear customs at CGK and collect luggage before checking in for the short flight to DPS.

Does anyone have any recent experience of a comfortable connection time for this airport given what we have to achieve?

I've found flights that would give us exactly two hours but I'm not sure if that'd be enough.

In case it has any bearing on being early into an immigration queue, I'm planning on booking First class with CX from HKG

Many thanks for any thoughts

Chris

Chris. Although I can't give you an exact time, two hours may not be enough One thing you will have to factor in is changing terminals from int'l to domestic. While there is a shuttle service between terminals, it may operate a bit slower based on time of day. Hope this helps.

If the shuttle is slow, a taxi works well. I've done the connection in 2 hours.

2 hours is a bit risky. If the CX flight delay or longer than expected time to pass through the immigration and to get the luggage, or even need to queue for the taxi or wait for the shuttle bus, either one of them can make you miss the connecting flight.
I will suggest at least leave 3 hours in between, given you need to transfer to another terminal.

Also, from my experience, better avoid Lion Air if you can. Travelled a few times with them, near all flights are delayed. The only exception is the one which was the first flight of the day, which was the only time it was on time.

what is the official MCT at CGK? I�ll be taking QF41 arriving 1730 at T3, looking to book MH722 depart at 1825 from T3.
Carry on only, would 55 minutes be feasible and within MCT?

MCT for International to International is 1 hour, so you not qualify on 1 ticket.
I would not suggest you try it on 2 tickets.

Have been warned not to even try it on a same-plane turnaround.

Not sure about the advantages of first-class flight into Jakarta connecting to a budget-carrier operating out of another terminal.

It might be better to consider Garuda, or at least its lower-cost offspring Citylink, for the CGK DPS link. That would avoid the clunky terminal hop.

Even within the same terminal, visa processing, baggage collection and a new check-in is clunky enough. Unless you have reasons for the rush to get to Bali, it's far better to give yourself a more relaxing less sweat-inducing connection time: otherwise CX has direct flights between Hong Kong and Bali or you can arrange seamless online connections through the likes of Singapore and Kuala Lumpur

To revive this thread: Currently looking at the Garuda Indonesia flight from HND to CGK arriving 5:35 p.m., connecting to the KLM flight to KUL at 7:25 p.m., so 1 hrs 50 mins connection.

Would this be viable on a single (award) ticket?

Is 2,5 hours connection time in CGK Intl T3 -> Intl T3 on separate tickets enough?

I'm considering a flight to Australia going through Jakarta (CGK) on separate tickets.

Arriving from Europe via JED with Saudia at 17.20 hours and the Qantas flight to Sydney is at 19.50 hours. Would probably need to clear immigration, pick-up bags and re-check, but I assume I have around 90 mins to do that as check-in supposedly closes 60 mins before departure. I would check in online as well, so just need to drop the bags. Unsure if there is an interline agreement and whether it's possible to check bags all the way through.

Anybody knows this?
PS . I have travel insurance

^ Without a delay you're likely fine w/o baggage and it sounds quite risky with baggage... I would be worried about my bags being left in CGK even if Saudia were to offer to interline to Qantas honestly

I think you might be seeking positive reinforcement of your plan, but the gist of the replies here - and those following your duplicate post in another thread - highlight the risks involved. If the flights take place as scheduled, you'd most probably be fine. But any delay to the incoming flight, increases the risk of having to shell out a considerable amount of cash to put things right. Assessing that risk, and the consequences of failure, are very much your business and you can set the assessments against your approach to risk taking,

The travel insurance could be a red herring. Insurers are unlikely to take on the risk of a missed connection not part of a single ticket. They tend to prefer risks they can share with, or fully assign to, a third party - in this case the airline(s) involved. As the airlines would wash their hands of any responsibility for the consequences of a missed connection falling between their tickets, so would the insurer. it's probably a good idea to iron out with the insurer the way they would approach this specific situation. If they confirm they're OK to take on the risk, then you're in clover .

By the way, it's something of a no-no to duplicate questions within a forum, or, indeed, within the wider FT environment.

In very simple terms, CGK is not a good airport for transit. They do not have staffed transit desks,
I-I transit is not very common here, airport staff are not aware of procedures, and those procedures
will change depending on the person you are speaking to.
I would never attempt an I-I transfer here with a short time frame, unless it was all Garuda on one ticket.

I agree with this. 5 - 7pm are busy time in CGK. 2.5 hours may not enough. Well as the check in counter close 1 hour before the flight, it means only 1.5 hour from plane arriving until he needs to reach the counter for checkin.

I have a 00:55 departure to DOH at CGK (on Qatar Airways). I'm trying to figure out how much time to allow when connecting from Bali (DPS). I believe Garuda operates in Terminal 3 at CGK for domestic flights in addition to their international flights. There are two Garuda flights in the evening, one arriving around 2100 and the other around 2200. Is it safe to book the later one or should I be cautious and book the earlier one?

Are any of the other carriers reliable, schedule-wise? There are a few other later flights on other airlines (1 each on Lion Air, Super Air, and Indonesia Air Asia) as potential alternatives.

Also I hear Indonesian airlines are very strict about their baggage allowances (20 Kg max?). How bad are excess bag fees?
(FWIW we have a two-bag allowance both in bound to Bali and also outbound from CGK. I will prefer to just carry one each but that may end up taking the weight over 20 Kg).