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*Equinox $25 Credit will not be issued for ANY products you buy online at their merchandise Shop which is coded as "Equinox The Shop". However, it appears that you can purchase Gift Cards straight off the site, but lowest denomination is $100. Gift cards can be used for merchandise and memberships.
USA personal Platinum annual fee increase to $695, July 2021.
#317
#318
Join Date: Jul 1999
Programs: QF WP, AA EXP
Posts: 3,520
Plus Clear is not actually capturing biometric data directly. The scanners do take measurements/data points but convert this into a cryptographic hash that can't be reassembled or duplicated. So while they have your data, it's a bunch of 1's and 0's that are effectively worthless to anyone, even their own employees.
#319
#320
Suspended
Join Date: Jul 2001
Location: Watchlisted by the prejudiced, en route to purgatory
Programs: Just Say No to Fleecing and Blacklisting
Posts: 102,095
I would imagine Amex negotiated a very deep discount in exchange for a guaranteed min amount of spend, or new members. Like you I'd probably never pay what Clear charges, even though I can sign up for $109/yr. I'd probably pay $50 cash if I could. But for clear, it's marketing too. They get more users, albeit not very profitable users, but then more people in the regular lines see more people cutting the line, and hope to get them.
Maybe Amex will even buy out CLEAR.
#321
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Location: Pacific Northwest
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Does CLEAR always feed into the PreCheck station?
#322
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Location: WAS
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No, CLEAR is entirely separate from PreCheck. If you have both, they will escort you to the front of the PreCheck line, but if you don't, then you go to the front of the regular line.
Some airports do have separate CLEAR stations where one of them is dedicated to people who have both CLEAR+Pre, but either way if you don't already have Pre then having CLEAR won't let you use PreCheck.
Some airports do have separate CLEAR stations where one of them is dedicated to people who have both CLEAR+Pre, but either way if you don't already have Pre then having CLEAR won't let you use PreCheck.
#323
Join Date: Feb 2000
Location: Menlo Park, CA, USA
Programs: UA 1MM 0P, AA, DL, *wood, Lifetime FPC Plat., IHG, HHD
Posts: 6,912
CLEAR has to be loving this. Between a big lump volume of business — across which to spread its costs — and the general tendency of subscription customers being easier to retain than acquire, CLEAR just saw an increase in its business lifespan by giving Amex a deal.
Maybe Amex will even buy out CLEAR.
Maybe Amex will even buy out CLEAR.
#324
Join Date: Apr 2006
Location: New York City/NY22
Programs: AA Platinum 2.3MM (Lifetime PLT)
Posts: 5,285
How about the Concierge and Travel Services?
I have had the Platinum Card since it came out. After reading through most of this thread it seems that most people are concerned about whether or not the credits justify the annual fee. I have other concerns.
One of the things that kept me on as a Platinum member was that I could rely on them when I needed reservations of different kinds. Over the past few years the quality of these services have decreased tremendously. One night last week, for example, there was a more than 90 minute wait for Travel and a message said to "call back later" and then disconnected me. The next day it was 60 minutes but they offered a call back. (That wouldn't work so well if you are at an airport in between flights.)
Also, a few weeks ago I wanted a reservation at a top restaurant. I called AMEX and was told I should give them my login and password for Resy (!) and they would do it for me. Whatever happened to them calling and getting you special treatment?
At the moment, I'll be thinking long and hard about renewing in a year.
(By the way, would someone please direct me to the proper forum for posting a question asking opinions on the various concierge services offered through different credit cards?)
One of the things that kept me on as a Platinum member was that I could rely on them when I needed reservations of different kinds. Over the past few years the quality of these services have decreased tremendously. One night last week, for example, there was a more than 90 minute wait for Travel and a message said to "call back later" and then disconnected me. The next day it was 60 minutes but they offered a call back. (That wouldn't work so well if you are at an airport in between flights.)
Also, a few weeks ago I wanted a reservation at a top restaurant. I called AMEX and was told I should give them my login and password for Resy (!) and they would do it for me. Whatever happened to them calling and getting you special treatment?
At the moment, I'll be thinking long and hard about renewing in a year.
(By the way, would someone please direct me to the proper forum for posting a question asking opinions on the various concierge services offered through different credit cards?)
#326
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I think Clear’s business lifespan was already looking much brighter in the past six months due to new relationships and venues, even the wonky covid test presentment and now going into the public markets just last week with a new IPO I think they are flush and fine till we get business travel back to close to historical amounts, in ~2023/2024
I could also see pre travelers voice their frustration when more and more Clear travelers get sent to the front of the line. Long term CLEAR may just need dedicated checkpoints.
#327
Join Date: Aug 2012
Posts: 6,752
RE: Clear
Initially, I wasn't a big fan of the program since it didn't appear that much of an improvement over TSA pre; and, I'd agree with a poster above that private enterprises ought not be profiting over a gap created by Gov't action. With that aside, it's there, free and I've use it. It is faster and saves the trouble of having to fish out my DL/Passport, which is helpful.
Would I pay for it? Probably not.
Initially, I wasn't a big fan of the program since it didn't appear that much of an improvement over TSA pre; and, I'd agree with a poster above that private enterprises ought not be profiting over a gap created by Gov't action. With that aside, it's there, free and I've use it. It is faster and saves the trouble of having to fish out my DL/Passport, which is helpful.
Would I pay for it? Probably not.
#328
Join Date: Jul 1999
Programs: QF WP, AA EXP
Posts: 3,520
RE: Clear
Initially, I wasn't a big fan of the program since it didn't appear that much of an improvement over TSA pre; and, I'd agree with a poster above that private enterprises ought not be profiting over a gap created by Gov't action. With that aside, it's there, free and I've use it. It is faster and saves the trouble of having to fish out my DL/Passport, which is helpful.
Would I pay for it? Probably not.
Initially, I wasn't a big fan of the program since it didn't appear that much of an improvement over TSA pre; and, I'd agree with a poster above that private enterprises ought not be profiting over a gap created by Gov't action. With that aside, it's there, free and I've use it. It is faster and saves the trouble of having to fish out my DL/Passport, which is helpful.
Would I pay for it? Probably not.
#329
Join Date: Mar 2019
Location: Mexico City
Programs: Hyatt Explorist, Hilton Gold, Marriot Gold, IHG Silver, Choice Platinum, Wyndham Gold
Posts: 3,849
I signed up for the entertainment credit on the first and moved my NYT subscription to my Platinum card which coincidentally renews on the second and today the entertainment meter moved by the amount of the subscription. It appears like their systems are working with the new programs.
#330
Join Date: Sep 2017
Posts: 106
I have had the Platinum Card since it came out. After reading through most of this thread it seems that most people are concerned about whether or not the credits justify the annual fee. I have other concerns.
One of the things that kept me on as a Platinum member was that I could rely on them when I needed reservations of different kinds. Over the past few years the quality of these services have decreased tremendously. One night last week, for example, there was a more than 90 minute wait for Travel and a message said to "call back later" and then disconnected me. The next day it was 60 minutes but they offered a call back. (That wouldn't work so well if you are at an airport in between flights.)
Also, a few weeks ago I wanted a reservation at a top restaurant. I called AMEX and was told I should give them my login and password for Resy (!) and they would do it for me. Whatever happened to them calling and getting you special treatment?
At the moment, I'll be thinking long and hard about renewing in a year.
(By the way, would someone please direct me to the proper forum for posting a question asking opinions on the various concierge services offered through different credit cards?)
One of the things that kept me on as a Platinum member was that I could rely on them when I needed reservations of different kinds. Over the past few years the quality of these services have decreased tremendously. One night last week, for example, there was a more than 90 minute wait for Travel and a message said to "call back later" and then disconnected me. The next day it was 60 minutes but they offered a call back. (That wouldn't work so well if you are at an airport in between flights.)
Also, a few weeks ago I wanted a reservation at a top restaurant. I called AMEX and was told I should give them my login and password for Resy (!) and they would do it for me. Whatever happened to them calling and getting you special treatment?
At the moment, I'll be thinking long and hard about renewing in a year.
(By the way, would someone please direct me to the proper forum for posting a question asking opinions on the various concierge services offered through different credit cards?)