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Old Oct 12, 2021, 5:00 pm
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Originally Posted by broncophil
Any recent reports?

is In room dining an option for the breakfast credit?

thanks
For a stay 2 weeks ago, they still allowed in room dining for BF credit.
I also used BF credit one morning for the Wynn Buffet, glad they're reopened.

Unfortunately got shut down both times I tried converting the $100 spa credit to F&B credit, once at checkin, and 2nd time mid stay when I called front desk. Looks like they're cracking down on FHR credit conversions now similar to Cosmo. I ended up using for a $75 day pass to Encore Spa. (day passes used to be $45 two years ago. Sigh.)

It was a midweek stay, Tue-Sat, was pleasantly surprised to get upgraded from Encore panoramic to Encore Tower Suites King since I know Fri nights can get very busy. Wynn/Encore Tower suites king was showing unavailable for booking for Fri night when I checked in Tue night.

Also the tower suites room key helps give you priority buffet line skip privileges which was nice. Also supposedly includes VIP access to in house nightclubs, all detailed in a letter explaining the tower suite $45 nightly resort fee inclusions.
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Old Oct 12, 2021, 5:34 pm
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thanks.

I called they said sauna and steam room were closed. So whats the point of day pass?

i booked the same encore panoramic. So hopefully ill get fhe same upgrade

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Originally Posted by dchen2
For a stay 2 weeks ago, they still allowed in room dining for BF credit.
I also used BF credit one morning for the Wynn Buffet, glad they're reopened.

Unfortunately got shut down both times I tried converting the $100 spa credit to F&B credit, once at checkin, and 2nd time mid stay when I called front desk. Looks like they're cracking down on FHR credit conversions now similar to Cosmo. I ended up using for a $75 day pass to Encore Spa. (day passes used to be $45 two years ago. Sigh.)

It was a midweek stay, Tue-Sat, was pleasantly surprised to get upgraded from Encore panoramic to Encore Tower Suites King since I know Fri nights can get very busy. Wynn/Encore Tower suites king was showing unavailable for booking for Fri night when I checked in Tue night.

Also the tower suites room key helps give you priority buffet line skip privileges which was nice. Also supposedly includes VIP access to in house nightclubs, all detailed in a letter explaining the tower suite $45 nightly resort fee inclusions.
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Old Oct 12, 2021, 5:45 pm
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It was still relaxing chilling in the spa loungers and soaking pools. But def not worth $75 a pass. Use it or lose it though since they declined to convert the spa credit.

Sweet spot is booking a tower suite king and hoping for a upgrade to a Parlor suite. But the tower suite kings weren't available for bookings during my stay dates and I was using the FHR 4th night free so I had to keep it under one res.

And from sounds of it, the space available upgrades is really only for their midweek dates. Weekends are busier than ever now.

Originally Posted by broncophil
thanks.

I called they said sauna and steam room were closed. So whats the point of day pass?

i booked the same encore panoramic. So hopefully ill get fhe same upgrade

thx
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Old Oct 13, 2021, 8:42 am
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Originally Posted by dchen2
Also the tower suites room key helps give you priority buffet line skip privileges which was nice. Also supposedly includes VIP access to in house nightclubs, all detailed in a letter explaining the tower suite $45 nightly resort fee inclusions.
(Pre covid at least) for house nightclubs and events, iirc all hotel guests could avail of a priority access line (assuming you purchased tickets directly from hotel) . Made entry to beach club and nightclub a breeze.

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Old Oct 14, 2021, 5:24 pm
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Originally Posted by bizum
(Pre covid at least) for house nightclubs and events, iirc all hotel guests could avail of a priority access line (assuming you purchased tickets directly from hotel) . Made entry to beach club and nightclub a breeze.

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Yep, I remember pre-covid at least, all hotel guests could pre-purchase EBC/XS vip tickets from concierge that really speeded up the usual 1hour+ waits to get in.

I didn't go clubbing last trip, I'm not sure if it's similar to the buffet VIP entry where you just flash your room key with the tower suites inscription or if they might have restricted concerige vip club line passes to just tower suites now.
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Old Oct 16, 2021, 11:11 am
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Here at encore now no upgrade.

but In room dining is offered. And I said due to covid I wasn’t comfortable with the spa so they converted the $100 to dining credit

the breakfast burrito was waaay better than it looked





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Old Oct 18, 2021, 1:41 am
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Planning a trip to Vegas and was wondering if people have been getting points, stay credit, elite night credit and status benefits for FHR and Hotel Collection bookings. I think I read somewhere that people aren't getting Hyatt + MGM points for their FHR bookings but is that true for other loyalty programs? Will the resort fee be waived for Caesars Diamond at Caesars Palace for example? I don't know if there's an executive lounge in any of the Hilton properties but I have Diamond with Hilton as well and was wondering what I'd get for that if I booked through Amex.

I'm also planning to do my Hyatt to MGM match to get gold so I don't have a physical card yet. Will that be a problem for using the priority lane to check in?
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Old Oct 18, 2021, 8:12 am
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Originally Posted by randomasian
Planning a trip to Vegas and was wondering if people have been getting points, stay credit, elite night credit and status benefits for FHR and Hotel Collection bookings. I think I read somewhere that people aren't getting Hyatt + MGM points for their FHR bookings but is that true for other loyalty programs? Will the resort fee be waived for Caesars Diamond at Caesars Palace for example? I don't know if there's an executive lounge in any of the Hilton properties but I have Diamond with Hilton as well and was wondering what I'd get for that if I booked through Amex.

I'm also planning to do my Hyatt to MGM match to get gold so I don't have a physical card yet. Will that be a problem for using the priority lane to check in?
I've seen data points about Hyatt/MGM FHR stays not qualifying for elite nights, at least if booked online, and about Marriott properties qualifying. Not sure about the others. For Hilton it may be worth checking the Hilton board and property-specific threads. There aren't a ton of Caesars data points on FT so not sure about that one.

As for the card, I'm not sure but I think you should probably be okay. If you wanted you could run to the Mlife desk in the casino of wherever you are checking in to pick up the card before going to hotel check in.
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Old Oct 18, 2021, 9:24 am
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Originally Posted by randomasian
I think I read somewhere that people aren't getting Hyatt + MGM points for their FHR bookings but is that true for other loyalty programs?
FHR MGM bookings will not count towards your elite nights credit (it hasn't ever for me), though whatever your bill above and beyond your initial Amex prepayment will count for points. As to Hyatt, I'm not sure, but I have read on here, if I recall, that they do count for EQNs, but may require some follow-up.
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Old Oct 18, 2021, 1:38 pm
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I currently booked a one night stay at the Waldorf Astoria Las Vegas for $245 per night as a Hilton Diamond. I know I will get all the FHR benefits and also $50 F&B credit for being Hilton Diamond.

The Conrad Las Vegas at Resort World is available for $179.00 per night. Both properties include a $125.00 property credit through FHR.

Does anyone have any opinion on whether the Waldorf Astoria is worth the additional $66.00 per night, compared to the Conrad? I am going to in mid-December and am focused not only on the quality of each property, but ease of use of the food and beverage credits, and implementation of Diamond benefits.
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Old Oct 18, 2021, 6:44 pm
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I stayed at the Bellagio last month through FHR and I attached my Hyatt number with the booking and again during check-in.

The stay posted in my Hyatt account a few days after check-out. But the stay did not show as a "qualifying" stay and earned zero credit. I asked my Hyatt concierge via email and I got credit right away.
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Old Oct 18, 2021, 8:56 pm
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Originally Posted by diesteldorf
I currently booked a one night stay at the Waldorf Astoria Las Vegas for $245 per night as a Hilton Diamond. I know I will get all the FHR benefits and also $50 F&B credit for being Hilton Diamond.

The Conrad Las Vegas at Resort World is available for $179.00 per night. Both properties include a $125.00 property credit through FHR.

Does anyone have any opinion on whether the Waldorf Astoria is worth the additional $66.00 per night, compared to the Conrad? I am going to in mid-December and am focused not only on the quality of each property, but ease of use of the food and beverage credits, and implementation of Diamond benefits.
I’d stay at The Conrad. Waldorf going steadily downhill from its Mandarin Oriental days. Maybe if you wanted to host something at the SkyBar to use $175 in credits but I’d try the new place.
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Old Oct 18, 2021, 9:27 pm
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Originally Posted by diesteldorf
I currently booked a one night stay at the Waldorf Astoria Las Vegas for $245 per night as a Hilton Diamond. I know I will get all the FHR benefits and also $50 F&B credit for being Hilton Diamond.

The Conrad Las Vegas at Resort World is available for $179.00 per night. Both properties include a $125.00 property credit through FHR.

Does anyone have any opinion on whether the Waldorf Astoria is worth the additional $66.00 per night, compared to the Conrad? I am going to in mid-December and am focused not only on the quality of each property, but ease of use of the food and beverage credits, and implementation of Diamond benefits.
You will get more info in the respective hotel's threads.

It depends on what you are looking for, they provide two different things. WA is better for a quiet 1-2 night stay. I would get sick of Zen kitchen food soon after that, esp with hundreds of food credit.

WA:
  • small (200-300 room) boutique hotel located in middle of strip.
  • No in house casino, will need to walk to Park MGM, Aria, or Cosmo for gaming, clubbing, or extensive shopping/restaurants.
  • Rooms kind of worn out, overdue for renovation since not much has changed since this was opened as a Mandarin Oriental 12 years ago.
Conrad
  • part of a large, integrated resort. Hilton has 1700 rooms, Conrad has 1500 rooms. So 10x the room count of WA.
  • Located in north end of strip. Really only walking distance from Wynn/Encore.
  • Lots more amenties, abet shared with 10x the people. Aka in house dayclub, nightclub, casino, 9 pools, food court, restaurants, retail shopping etc.
  • The high number of restaurants is a big plus for the FHR/Diamond food credits. At Resort world, Wallys, the pizza slices place, Suns Out/Buns and the 15 odd asian themed food court outlets provided lots of variety and quality food.
  • Brand new hardware, Conrad regular rooms slightly more spacious @ 550sqft vs WA 500sqft rooms. Conrad 1br suites at 1100sqft are very spacious too.
  • Has some teething pains with tech and inconsistent diamond benefits, maybe due to staff training or constantly changing hotel owner Genting Gaming policies.
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Old Oct 18, 2021, 11:01 pm
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Originally Posted by Yahtzee
I’d stay at The Conrad. Waldorf going steadily downhill from its Mandarin Oriental days. Maybe if you wanted to host something at the SkyBar to use $175 in credits but I’d try the new place.
Originally Posted by dchen2
You will get more info in the respective hotel's threads.

It depends on what you are looking for, they provide two different things. WA is better for a quiet 1-2 night stay. I would get sick of Zen kitchen food soon after that, esp with hundreds of food credit.

WA:
  • small (200-300 room) boutique hotel located in middle of strip.
  • No in house casino, will need to walk to Park MGM, Aria, or Cosmo for gaming, clubbing, or extensive shopping/restaurants.
  • Rooms kind of worn out, overdue for renovation since not much has changed since this was opened as a Mandarin Oriental 12 years ago.
Conrad
  • part of a large, integrated resort. Hilton has 1700 rooms, Conrad has 1500 rooms. So 10x the room count of WA.
  • Located in north end of strip. Really only walking distance from Wynn/Encore.
  • Lots more amenties, abet shared with 10x the people. Aka in house dayclub, nightclub, casino, 9 pools, food court, restaurants, retail shopping etc.
  • The high number of restaurants is a big plus for the FHR/Diamond food credits. At Resort world, Wallys, the pizza slices place, Suns Out/Buns and the 15 odd asian themed food court outlets provided lots of variety and quality food.
  • Brand new hardware, Conrad regular rooms slightly more spacious @ 550sqft vs WA 500sqft rooms. Conrad 1br suites at 1100sqft are very spacious too.
  • Has some teething pains with tech and inconsistent diamond benefits, maybe due to staff training or constantly changing hotel owner Genting Gaming policies.
Thanks to both of you for taking the time to post and share your thoughts. The purpose of this particular stay is to recoup after an early morning flight, so I'm not planning to do much drinking or gambling my first night in Vegas. Hopefully, I'll be able to check in around 12:00 and fully maximize the late 4:00 checkout. Aside from sleeping and relaxing, I anticipate eating lunch and dinner the day of arrival and breakfast and lunch the day of departure.

I was already concerned about spending over $200 in credits at WA Zen Kitchen, and knowing that the Conrad has multiple restaurants should make it much easier to utilize all the credits with a wide variety of choices. And, of course, I'll be saving around $70.00 compared to my previous reservation at the WA. Thanks again.

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Old Oct 19, 2021, 3:40 pm
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Originally Posted by diesteldorf
Thanks to both of you for taking the time to post and share your thoughts. The purpose of this particular stay is to recoup after an early morning flight, so I'm not planning to do much drinking or gambling my first night in Vegas. Hopefully, I'll be able to check in around 12:00 and fully maximize the late 4:00 checkout. Aside from sleeping and relaxing, I anticipate eating lunch and dinner the day of arrival and breakfast and lunch the day of departure.

I was already concerned about spending over $200 in credits at WA Zen Kitchen, and knowing that the Conrad has multiple restaurants should make it much easier to utilize all the credits with a wide variety of choices. And, of course, I'll be saving around $70.00 compared to my previous reservation at the WA. Thanks again.
One thing to note, downside to having an in house nightclub/day club is the noise pollution. If you're sensitive to noise, esp the thumping bass, I'd request a room facing away from Ayo/Zouk, ideally on a high floor. Clubs are mostly open on Thu-Sun, so midweek stays shouldn't be an issue outside an special event.

This was also an issue with Cosmo/WynnEncore rooms facing the dayclubs/night clubs.
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