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Old Oct 4, 2018, 1:05 pm
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Faq amex: https://www.americanexpress.com/us/campaigns/gold-card/gold-update-faqs.html

For existing and new cardholders
  • Changes below are effective immediately
    • 4x US grocery (25k/calendar year), 4x US dining* (*pervasive reports that many dining transactions are not coding as 4x, including but not limited to those from Square or Toast-based POS systems. Scroll down in thread for more reports and information.)
    • $120 dining credit ($10 monthly in certain restaurants)
  • No change
    • $100 calendar year airline reimbursement
  • Other
    • $250 AF (see below for existing cardholders)
    • No 2x gas (removed, see below for existing cardholders who have it till Oct 2019)
  • Metal card (contactless)
    • Rose gold card - limited edition until Jan 9 2019
    • Regular gold card

For new cardholders (Oct 4 2018 and after)
  • You may be able to find targeted/referal 50k/$2k, but first AF is not waived
  • Signup bonus: You get 20% off restaurant up to $500 restaurant spend (3 month)
  • You do not get 2x gas (only for existing cardholders, see below)

For existing cardholders (Oct 3 2018 or before)
  • AF will change to $250 for anniversary dates after April 1 2019
  • 2x gas will be removed after Oct 2019
  • You can chat/call for the gold/rosegold metal card. AU card will get whatever primary cardholder is getting, cannot be different
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Premier Rewards Gold refresh: 4x USA dining, groceries, $10/mon dining credit. $250.

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Old Oct 3, 2018, 9:28 pm
  #211  
 
Join Date: Oct 2017
Location: SFO
Programs: BR Gold, HH Gold, Marriott Gold, Hyatt Discoverist
Posts: 17
Seems like the card image in app and online has been updated with the new design! Excited to see the new benefits tmr

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Old Oct 3, 2018, 10:11 pm
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Join Date: Feb 2017
Location: Everywhere and Nowhere
Programs: DL GM
Posts: 515
Originally Posted by pallhedge
What's the expiration date on your current PRG? That's when you'll get a new metal card. If you want a new one sooner, you'll need a valid reason. With Amex, "I want the new metal card" might be valid.
Originally Posted by zorbachs
If it's anything like the Platinum card refresh, you will have the option to order the metal card under your account page. You don't have to pretend you lost your card. There was even an option that said "request metal card."
Originally Posted by Airmax95
Radom Q. Do you all think that the metal cards issued after the refresh will have the same numbers? One issue is to keep our autopay bills, but the other issue is that I would love to be able to keep my card and give the Rose Gold to my wife for her restaurant spend vs getting her own account.

I requested a duplicate card for my Chase Sapphire Reserve that she currently uses for us to pool that spend and points earn without paying the AU fee. No restaurant has ever asked for her id when she has paid the bill.
I was able to request a replacement metal card on the website for my PRG. Only the main gold card can be requested online, it said if you wanted the rose gold to go to chat. I'm going to make my wife an AU on this account since she does half of our grocery shopping, but I'm hoping to get her the rose gold so I'll probably chat first. I'm also going to wait until this fully, officially rolls out, just to be safe.

It said that a card with the exact same number would be sent so you shouldn't need to change autopay stuff, though I would assume maybe the security code would be different? It didn't say anything about that.

Originally Posted by ksingh0311
Interestingly my PRG benefits page won't load at all, it keeps cycling and refreshing. Other cards load fine. Think they are updating the benefits section now.
Originally Posted by PHLondoner
Mine as well. Think there will be a rush for the Gold metal card come tomorrow?
When I first logged in just now (slightly before midnight ET), the benefits page wouldn't load for a long time and when it finally did, it wouldn't show any new info. When I finished going through the request metal card process and clicked on Benefits again, the new dining credit (enrollment required) and earning showed up and the new card image replaced the old one at the top. 4x restaurants, 4x supermarkets, 3x flights, 1x everything else. However, when you actually click Learn More on the Earn Membership Rewards Points section, the Benefit Terms section has yet to be updated (still showing 2x gas and 2x supermarket)

Looks like the website has a few small IT issues on the benefits page still, but I assume it'll get ironed out as the roll out goes on. Pretty excited about this, I'll be using the heck out of this card now.

Originally Posted by ksingh0311
Heh heh. I'll likely be the first one to order a metal card replacement - Rose Gold at that, I don't care what anyone thinks of me.
Looks like, right now, rose gold will require chatting with customer service. It wouldn't let me select it on the website when I requested a new metal card. Hopefully I can do it for my wife, she loves rose gold something fierce.
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Old Oct 3, 2018, 10:16 pm
  #213  
 
Join Date: Mar 2015
Location: SLC
Programs: AA EXP, Marriott Titanium + LT Gold
Posts: 198
Logged in just now and the benefits page is showing the new 4X earning... Card image still showing the old version though

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Old Oct 3, 2018, 10:39 pm
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Join Date: Apr 2012
Location: SFO
Programs: AS MVP Gold 75K, UA Gold, Marriott LTT, Avis President's Club
Posts: 1,539
Just stumbled upon the 50K offer and thought I apply. I got the pop-up saying I'm not eligible. I only have applied for one card in the last 2 years (AMEX BBP). I'm not a chunner. Seems AMEX shouldn't broadly advertise these offers if they aren't going to honor them.
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Old Oct 3, 2018, 10:54 pm
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Join Date: Jun 2008
Location: BAY AREA
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I was told I had to wait until tomorrow to request metal gold
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Old Oct 3, 2018, 11:11 pm
  #216  
 
Join Date: Dec 2017
Location: SFO/YYZ
Programs: AC 25K, AS MVP Gold, BA Bronze, UA Silver, Marriott Titanium, Hilton Diamond, Hyatt Globalist
Posts: 2,470
Originally Posted by trikotret
I was told I had to wait until tomorrow to request metal gold
Told the same for rose gold. Will probably try a couple times throughout Oct 4.
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Old Oct 4, 2018, 12:06 am
  #217  
 
Join Date: Mar 2015
Location: SLC
Programs: AA EXP, Marriott Titanium + LT Gold
Posts: 198
I added an Amex Offer for 2x points at the Olive Garden a while ago. With the new changes, does that mean I will earn 5 points per dollar?

Also, does anyone know if seamless.com and grubhub.com count as dining (4x)?
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Old Oct 4, 2018, 1:14 am
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Join Date: Jun 2011
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Only shows up in in-cognito mode for some reason...
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Old Oct 4, 2018, 1:26 am
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Join Date: Jul 2015
Location: SEA
Posts: 138
Now here's something bizarre. On the application page, you can select either the Gold or the Rose Gold color. The Gold color application page shows an annual fee of $195. The Rose Gold color application page shows an annual fee of $250. Same product - different colors of card.

At first I thought this was a mistake, but the Terms, Conditions & Disclosures page on the product reflects this same $195 / $250 discrepancy based on the color of the card.

Am I missing something here? It seems unlike Amex to charge a higher annual fee just for a different card design.


Edit: it's showing $250 everywhere now. Must've been a glitch.

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Old Oct 4, 2018, 3:45 am
  #220  
 
Join Date: Jul 2014
Location: LAX
Programs: Hyatt Globalist, AA EXP, Hilton Diamond, Wyndham Diamond, DL PM, Marriott Platinum, IHG Platinum
Posts: 1,305
For all those who applied with the 50K no AF first year, we are locked in even if we order the Rose Gold card for AU, right?
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Old Oct 4, 2018, 4:37 am
  #221  
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Originally Posted by ksingh0311
....maximize it by buying gift cards....
The terms of this card explicitly exclude gift card purchases from earning bonus points. I expect American Express would not have capped the category at $25,000 if they were not confident that they could detect a high proportion of gift card purchases.

You will earn one point for each dollar charged for an eligible purchase in each billing period on The American Express Gold Card. You will earn: 3 additional points (for a total of 4 points) for each dollar charged at restaurants located in the U.S.; 3 additional points (for a total of 4 points) on the first $25,000 of eligible purchases per calendar year at supermarkets located in the U.S. (superstores and warehouse clubs are not considered supermarkets); and 2 additional points (for a total of 3 points) for airfare on a scheduled flight charged directly with passenger airlines (charter flights and private jet flights are excluded) and airfare charged directly with amextravel.com. To earn additional points for a restaurant purchase, the purchase must be at a restaurant located in the United States. You will NOT earn additional points for purchases made at a restaurant owned by a U.S. company but located outside the U.S. (e.g. Hard Rock Café in Paris). You may not earn additional points for purchases at a restaurant located within another establishment (e.g. a restaurant inside a hotel, casino, or event venue). For example, purchases made at a restaurant located within a hotel may be recognized as a purchase at a hotel, not a restaurant. You also will NOT earn additional points for purchases at nightclubs and convenience stores. Eligible purchases are purchases for goods and services minus returns and other credits. Eligible purchases do NOT include fees or interest charges, purchases of gift cards, purchases of travelers checks, purchases or reloading of prepaid cards, or purchases of other cash equivalents. Additional terms and restrictions apply. Merchants are assigned codes based on what they primarily sell. A purchase will not qualify for additional points if the merchant's code is not eligible. Purchases made through a third-party payment account or on an online marketplace (with multiple retailers) will not qualify for additional points. A purchase may not qualify for additional points if the merchant submits the purchase using a mobile or wireless card reader or if you use a mobile or digital wallet.
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Old Oct 4, 2018, 5:23 am
  #222  
 
Join Date: Sep 2011
Location: USA
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Originally Posted by jediwho
For all those who applied with the 50K no AF first year, we are locked in even if we order the Rose Gold card for AU, right?
Yes, and next year you will pay $195 (first year after no AF). You will pay $250AF in 2020. Color of the card has no bearing on this.
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Old Oct 4, 2018, 5:26 am
  #223  
 
Join Date: Sep 2011
Location: USA
Posts: 1,179
Originally Posted by nexusCFX
Told the same for rose gold. Will probably try a couple times throughout Oct 4.

To get Rose Gold right away, you'll have to CALL. CSR online (chat option) are telling folks to wait 24 hrs.
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Old Oct 4, 2018, 5:54 am
  #224  
 
Join Date: Oct 2010
Location: DFW
Posts: 685
Originally Posted by mia
The terms of this card explicitly exclude gift card purchases from earning bonus points. I expect American Express would not have capped the category at $25,000 if they were not confident that they could detect a high proportion of gift card purchases.
I view it the opposite way, they would not have capped it if they could detect gift card purchases. Seems like a bad move on AMex's part, cutting out a huge volume of MS while increasing points to non-MS'ers. Unless they are losing money on MS purchases.
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Old Oct 4, 2018, 5:56 am
  #225  
 
Join Date: Nov 2015
Location: FL, USA
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Posts: 1,666
Originally Posted by tsmith12
Yes, and next year you will pay $195 (first year after no AF). You will pay $250AF in 2020. Color of the card has no bearing on this.
I just saw this mentioned on DOC as well. Very excited about this and glad I jumped the gun last week. This looks to be a great card for my "lifestyle" and I think with this I will probably be switching most of my spend over to Amex. Benefits are already showing and I was able to enroll in the dining credit (which I will be using today for lunch!)
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